TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022

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The signs were all there, yet nobody acted. Those closest to him likely afraid of him.

Questions that arise for me.

Where did he get the money to buy the guns? Two AR's, one with what appears to be an eotech or some other brand red dot sight. I'd say at bare minimum that's $1,500 dollars worth of weaponry, and possibly worth twice that amount. Add to that the body armor and some ammo.

But the big question for me is, why'd he shoot his own grandmother?

The first line in this article claims his family was poor.

 
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@Tom_Winter

The shooter in Uvalde, TX had an AR-style rifle, had no criminal history, had no employment, had no friends or girlfriend, and had attended a local high school, according to Texas DPS spokesperson, Lt. Christopher Olivarez in an interview with @KerryNBC
Texas DPS now says the shooter had a tactical carrier which can be fitted with ballistic protection or it may not be fitted with that protection. It was not body armor they say, upon further review of the scene.
The shooter, Salvador Rolando Ramos, had no criminal history, Texas DPS says. They say during the course of the shooting he barricaded himself in a classroom while shooting at kids and teachers, They also say the victims have been removed from the school overnight
Lt. Olivarez says the school did have video cameras which the Texas Rangers are hoping to use to be able to get a better understand of what happened.

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@tplohetski

The shooter in the Robb Elementary School had legally purchased two AR platform rifles on May 17 and May 20 from a 'local federal firearms licensee,' according to a briefing given to Texas Sen. John Whitmire. One rifle was in his crashed truck at the scene. (1/3)

The other rifle was with the shooter. On May 18, the suspect bought 375 rounds of 5.56 ammunition, according to the briefing. ATF paperwork shows he likely lived with his grandmother, where she was shot. Authorities say he was wearing a plate carrier with no ballistic armor.(2/3)

The information about a pursuit is not accurate, according to the briefing. The grandmother apparently worked at the school but ended in 2020. The suspect's grandmother is still alive. (3/3)
 
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I wonder what caused killer to crash his vehicle
 
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@Tom_Winter

They say during the course of the shooting he barricaded himself in a classroom while shooting at kids and teachers,

I wondered why it took them so long to get to him. Presumably "taken into custody" means that is when he was shot by LE.


Uvalde police department officials announced that the suspected gunman was taken into custody at 1:06 p.m. local time — approximately an hour and a half after an active shooter was first reported.

The shooting at the school began at 11:32 a.m.

 
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I wonder what caused killer to crash his vehicle

good question...here are after-pictures of the truck. a lot of front end damage.

  • The source reports that according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the suspect legally purchased two AR platform rifles at a local federal firearms licensee on two separate dates: May 17, 2022, and May 20, 2022. One of the rifles he had purchased was left in the crashed truck. The other rifle (a Daniel Defense) was located in the school with the suspect.
  • On May 18, 2022, the suspect reportedly purchased 375 rounds of 5.56 ammunition.
  • ATF paperwork shows the suspect’s home address, as does his driver license, in the 500 block of Diaz Street in Uvalde. That is the address where his grandmother lived and was shot.
 
  • #289
I wonder what caused killer to crash his vehicle

I am thinking he had just shot his grandmother, and he was on his way to the school to kill children- he was no doubt in a rage, probably driving out of control, and wound up crashing his vehicle.
 
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Powerful and moving speech. Hope it elicits some change :(


First, they would have to have the heart to be moved by his impassioned speech. Some are too harden to care. After Sandy Hook, many senators decided it was ok, a reasonable sacrifice.
 
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19 children dead so far. One more and this 18yr-old will tie the record set at Sandy Hook. Will he know from h*ll? These are our country’s children who are paying the price for inaction :eek:

That was most likely his intended goal including shooting the Mother figure before committing this evil crime.
 
  • #295
News just said that parents who are gathered in a room and have not yet located their missing child are providing DNA swabs to facilitate identification of their children, who are likely still in the school - murdered.
Absolutely brutal.

I feel physically ill.
 
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Snipped and Bolded by me….

He would be very rude towards the girls sometimes, and one of the cooks, threatening them by asking, 'Do you know who I am?' And he would also send inappropriate texts to the ladies,” said the former co-worker, who did not want her name used.

This sounds like he wanted to be known.

EXACTLY! Was tired of being ignored. Fame. He sought INFAMY.
 
  • #297
Interesting stuff here. My 20 year career in public school, a high school in fact, revealed numerous incidents such as this one. I can tell you this is not an isolated case. I wonder who these two were......

 
  • #298
Clearly this anger thing is exclusively an American problem, otherwise how could one explain the lack of mass shootings in other countries.

There are a lot of angry males that feel entitled here. Rage and feel that they are owed something.
 
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I watch from afar, broken hearted alongside you all.. wondering why and how this could happen.

Reading that the parents have been asked for DNA to identify their child breaks me in a way I have never felt before. Everyone’s lives in that town and beyond have been irreversibly changed forever.

Those poor sweet children and teachers. I am so sorry we live in a world where this happens xx
 
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