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"Lessons will be learnt"?? 🤔
That is, IMO, what is usually trotted out in these cases, then the same thing happens again. IMO no lessons will be learned and we'll be discussing another terrible case like this in the future. JMO.
 
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That is, IMO, what is usually trotted out in these cases, then the same thing happens again. IMO no lessons will be learned and we'll be discussing another terrible case like this in the future. JMO.
I disagree- the report so far is well written and clear, whilst also empathetic to those involved who were responsible for subsequent actions. There are a lot of calm and attainable recommendations in this report, that may help in future. It’s also worth noting some of the response to this event was based on the inquiry and its response to the Manchester bombing- and that change in response did help in this situation.
My only gripe is that I wish they had done more about the out of school clubs regulations. That room was separately hired and didn’t have a fire escape. I’m glad the hart space has moved to a different location- and I understand the people involved were traumatised and injured and don’t warrant further criticism- but any room that is rented out should have an alternative exit route (and that is a hill I will die on). There is a lot of talk about whether the front door should have been locked and a decision made that it was the right choice to leave it unlocked, but if they had an alternative route out of the room it would have made a difference. If there had been a ground floor fire that came up the staircase, they would not have been able to pass over into another unit to escape either.
 
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Hopefully they name and shame everyone involved.

Ideally his parents should be jailed too but won't be as they were only morally wrong.
 
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Don't know, if it's posted before, but here it goes, about the insight of a disfunctional family, Imo..

"The brother of the Southport attacker said his parents "lost control" of their son and he feared his younger sibling would kill a member of their family, a public inquiry has heard."

" The inquiry was told Dion told his friend over the Discord messaging app: "The fights are scary because of the danger of someone dying".

Dion said his brother reminded him of the sociopathic murderer in the film No Country For Old Men."

" The inquiry heard Dion was diagnosed with a neuromuscular disorder at the age of 12 which led to him using a wheelchair and his parents helping him more. "

SBM from:
Dion Rudakubana feared his brother could 'kill family member'
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Hopefully they name and shame everyone involved.

Ideally his parents should be jailed too but won't be as they were only morally wrong.
The parents were clearly in denial about their son, but I don't know what offence they could realistically be charged with.
 
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Parents of a 'sadistic' teenager who carried out the Southport massacre need to be jailed for failing to stop his killing spree, a lawyer for his victims said today.

Chris Walker, who represents the parents of Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, said he understood current legislation made it ‘difficult’ for Axel Rudakubana’s mother and father to be prosecuted.

But he said they had ‘blood on their hands’ and he believed it was ‘correct’ for them to be incarcerated for failing to stop their son’s murder spree.


The apology we heard (from parents of Rudakubana) was rejected by the families, I call for them personally to be incarcerated for their lack of foresight and for not preventing the attack, I firmly believe that’s correct,’ Mr Walker told Today on BBC Radio 4 .

He added: ‘They should go to prison. They have blood on their hands.’

In his damning report, published yesterday, Sir Adrian Fulford, chairman of the public inquiry, said Alphonse Rudakubana, 50, and Laetitia Muyazire, 54, must take some blame for the atrocity.

The report found that they knew Rudakubana was hoarding weapons, including machetes, for at least a year before the July 2024 attack, and had planned to target his former school the week before.

They saw other weapons and a suspicious substances – later discovered to be ingredients for the deadly poison ricin - in his bedroom, and found packaging for a knife when he left the house on the day of the attack, the retired High Court judge said.

‘They reported none of this,’ Sir Adrian added.
 
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The issue is even without him buying and hoarding knives, they are readily available. A kitchen knife is all he needed. The parents absolutely should have reported it, but I'm not sure they could have prevented the outcome sadly. The other agencies involved need to be held accountable for their part too. IMO
 

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