UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #6

[Noseyjosie]

I remember one of AC's friends saying that AC had asked her whilst the search was happening if she'd taken her dog for a walk that morning - and that she always went where Alesha's body was found. She said she hadn't and I wondered if he wanted this friend to be the one to find her? And why?
I would really love for him to get life, IMO he is never going to be safe to let out. There are criminals and then there are monsters and this boy is definitely the latter.

 

[Eve71]

This article seems to imply Alesha went to Ettrick Bay on the Thursday.

"When she arrived on Bute on Thursday 28 June Alesha wanted to go Highland dancing.

But by the time they reached the 292 Club the class had finished.

Instead, Alesha's grandparents, Calum MacPhail and Angela King, took her to the idyllic beach on Ettrick Bay."

Alesha: The little girl with the big smile

Yes, I stand corrected, I thought it was the fri/sat .

 

[TaylorCallum]

I remember one of AC's friends saying that AC had asked her whilst the search was happening if she'd taken her dog for a walk that morning - and that she always went where Alesha's body was found. She said she hadn't and I wondered if he wanted this friend to be the one to find her? And why?
I would really love for him to get life, IMO he is never going to be safe to let out. There are criminals and then there are monsters and this boy is definitely the latter.

Oh, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Was she a witness?

 

[Yenriac]

Oh, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Was she a witness?

Me neither. I never heard of this before.

 

[Noseyjosie]

Oh, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Was she a witness?

Yes, I think she was possibly the one who said he'd talked of killing for the life experience. I'll try and find the article again

 

[Edinlass]

Yeah it was one of his friends who took the stand I think that said this - wasn’t it?

 

[Noseyjosie]

It's in this Alesha MacPhail murder accused sent video saying he had done it, trial told

ETA

The court also heard from another friend of the accused, who said the boy had messaged her at around noon on July 2 asking if she had seen anything and if she had walked her dog that morning as she normally went where Alesha’s body was found.

 

[TaylorCallum]

It's in this Alesha MacPhail murder accused sent video saying he had done it, trial told

Oh wow. I really thought the "kill for the life experience" was just teenage nonsense, but maybe in a twisted way he remembered it and wanted to show off his kill to his friend. Creepy.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Edinlass]

Duplicate post

 

[Edinlass]

It's in this Alesha MacPhail murder accused sent video saying he had done it, trial told

ETA

The court also heard from another friend of the accused, who said the boy had messaged her at around noon on July 2 asking if she had seen anything and if she had walked her dog that morning as she normally went where Alesha’s body was found.

That’s the one. Maybe he did want her to find Alesha so he could hear first hand the details. There’s something seriously disturbing about that as he knew that was the way she frequently walked her dog. Actual physchopath.

 

[Owlpellet]

I remember one of AC's friends saying that AC had asked her whilst the search was happening if she'd taken her dog for a walk that morning - and that she always went where Alesha's body was found. She said she hadn't and I wondered if he wanted this friend to be the one to find her? And why?
I would really love for him to get life, IMO he is never going to be safe to let out. There are criminals and then there are monsters and this boy is definitely the latter.

Omg that’s awful. (Well, it all is.) He staged Alesha’s body. For her to see? Just when you think you’ve heard all of it, another dimension to what he did emerges.

 

[Edinlass]

I don’t think anything surprises me anymore, this is by far the worst case i’ve followed on websleuths though.

Makes it worse it happened in my home land

 

[TaylorCallum]

So do you think that's why he took Alesha to that specific location? Because he knew that his friend walked her dog there and would possibly come across her? But maybe that's too much of a stretch. Professor David Wilson said he didn't believe he intended to kill Alesha originally, it was the guilt of having raped a child that caused him to snap and kill her afterwards, which would imply he didn't take her there to murder her in the first place. I don't know.

 

[Owlpellet]

I don’t think anything surprises me anymore, this is by far the worst case i’ve followed on websleuths though.

Makes it worse it happened in my home land

Yeah, I’ve never said this before, because it feels so trivial, in comparison to other people’s pain and grief, but so many of us spent our childhood holidays in Rothesay. It was a magical place to me- I’d throw a stone in the water the night before I left, promising to return. Compared to the dangers and gloom of Glasgow, Rothesay was a paradise we looked forward to all year. I was free to wander the island on my own. My mother once made me abandon a baby hedgehog (I wanted to bring it home) in those woods, at or near where the poor girl was found. I worried for years about abandoning that hedgehog! My mother told me how it would be safe there. Rothesay has such an important place in the Scottish psyche! This case has affected Scotland on soooo many levels!

 

[Owlpellet]

So do you think that's why he took Alesha to that specific location? Because he knew that his friend walked her dog there and would possibly come across her? But maybe that's too much of a stretch. Professor David Wilson said he didn't believe he intended to kill Alesha originally, it was the guilt of having raped a child that caused him to snap and kill her afterwards, which would imply he didn't take her there to murder her in the first place. I don't know.

I don’t think he cared whether he murdered her...she was expendable to him. She was killed during the attack rather than afterwards according to the coroner as he said that “at least some of her injuries were inflicted while she was still alive.” So I think that means she could not have been killed after the fact.

 

[Noseyjosie]

He's one seriously screwed up individual. It makes me wonder how he ended up the way he is, it's obviously built up over time.
I don't believe that gory video games turn well balanced people into killers but I do think if there's a problem already that they can exacerbate it - along with all the time spent locked away by himself. I imagine that over the years there were opportunities to put the brakes on with his behaviour but, for whatever reason, they weren't taken/effective

 

[TaylorCallum]

I don’t think he cared whether he murdered her...she was expendable to him. She was killed during the attack rather than afterwards according to the coroner as he said that “at least some of her injuries were inflicted while she was still alive.” So I think that means she could not have been killed after the fact.

Yes, actually I think you're right. Not that it makes any difference - because it's beyond barbaric regardless - but I don't know if he actually intended to kill her when he took her, maybe he just didn't care either way and she ended up dying as a result of how forceful he was. Like you said, he viewed her as expendable.

 

[Owlpellet]

Yes, actually I think you're right. Not that it makes any difference - because it's beyond barbaric regardless - but I don't know if he actually intended to kill her when he took her, maybe he just didn't care either way and she ended up dying as a result of how forceful he was. Like you said, he viewed her as expendable.

Well, he smothered her or compressed her windpipe during the attack, probably to keep her quiet, I suppose. That was the actual cause of death.

ETA Of course, she would have died of her other injuries later, if this hadn’t happened earlier.

 

[Noseyjosie]

So do you think that's why he took Alesha to that specific location? Because he knew that his friend walked her dog there and would possibly come across her?

Yes I do wonder if he hoped she'd find Alesha, sort of "look what I can do" OR I wondered if perhaps the girl kind of hero worshipped him but had recently lost interest in his tales or bragging and his ego couldn't take it so he thought "I'll show you! "

He's sick enough for either I think

 

[TaylorCallum]

6 is so young to die. I know that's such an obvious thing to state and everyone already knows it but it's truly heartbreaking. A whole life that will never get to be led. Who knows what she could have done with her life, where she could have gone, who she could have met. It's unbelievably sad. To have it ended before it really began. It's made me even sadder than normal thinking about it.