Found Safe UK - Antonino Coppola, 23, from Richmond, Surrey, missing from Bow, East London, 16 Sep 2021

[JuicyLucy]

We don't know.


This is of course possible, but first of all, local private CCTV from local homes and local businesses need to be checked. We know from previous experience of people going missing (ie they have not found the person dead or alive) the Police don't have the resources or time to go from house to house, building to company, locally, asking to see their private CCTV. This will need to be done by family and friends IMO JMO. Start by leafleting and asking them to check their CCTV from 13:00 onwards on the day he went misssing. Before this crucial information is wiped. On the main road and on all the side roads and including all the way down to the end of Tidworth Road where I've previously highlighted the side access to the Cemetary park - as homes there have CCTV visible when you look on google maps. JMO MOO

I agree. Perhaps from a little bit earlier in fact, in order to get a sense of who else was hanging around the area at about that time.

 

[SaintGertrude]

How long exactly did his friend wait at the station. If Antonio had soiled clothes especially his trousers in my opinion he could have returned after purchasing a whole new outfit. Could this have perhaps been missed and this new identity not noticed on CCTV. What if he got back on a train.

 

[Cherwell]

I think it's important to check the cameras of any buses that were passing around that time. As someone suggested earlier, he could have got on a bus. He had his backpack with, we are told, his wallet and all his documents, so he didn't go empty-handed. I'm not sure if they were taking several trips to move house, or just the one, but if the latter then he didn't have much else to leave behind.

 

[AcbMurders]

Link to Wednesday’s episode of Chi l’ha visto, available until 29 September.

Antonino’s case is covered at the very beginning of the programme, live from Positano. Clearly it’s in Italian, but all the relevant info has been posted on this thread in English by @Positano86 and myself. Chi l'ha visto? 2021/22 - Puntata del 22/09/2021 - Video - RaiPlay

 

[SaintGertrude]

I think it's important to check the cameras of any buses that were passing around that time. As someone suggested earlier, he could have got on a bus. He had his backpack with, we are told, his wallet and all his documents, so he didn't go empty-handed. I'm not sure if they were taking several trips to move house, or just the one, but if the latter then he didn't have much else to leave behind.

I wouldn't expect that his train ticket had an all zone included for public transport. All buses in London are cash-free. This means he would have needed to have an Oyster card, contactless payment, or a valid ticket to travel on a London Bus. If he used his bank card then that would be a real breakthrough. I expect the police are looking at all his bank transactions.
These are a few of the details held for Oyster card customers.
Information copied over from the tfl.gov.uk site:-
Personal information we hold
In most cases, registering your Oyster card details with us is optional. If you do register your Oyster card or add it to your online account, the personal information we will hold includes:

• Name, address, email address, telephone number
• Your journey history
• Payment card information or bank account and sort code numbers
• Transaction information (when and where you topped up your balance or purchased a season ticket, or were issued with a refund)

 

[SaintGertrude]

Antonino Coppola’s case has just featured on Chi l’ha visto, an Italian national TV programme about missing people. In brief:

• On 16 Sept, approx 1pm, AC was travelling on the tube with a friend. They were moving to a new house and were carrying suitcases;
• When he felt unwell, they got off the train and the friend stayed on the platform with the luggage whilst AC went looking for a toilet;
• 20 mins later, the friend started to get worried and went out looking for him. He then alerted the family (unclear if friend speaks English and if he alerted anyone at the station);
• CCTV shows AC exiting the station, looking unwell and turning right, but no sign of him after that;
• On TV they showed a photo of the black backpack he was carrying when he disappeared;
• AC was a happy guy and had no problems except that a week earlier he had had an asthma attack and was taken to hospital;
• His father and brother have gone to London looking for him;
• AC speaks good English and lived in Australia for 6 months when he was 18/19. He’s lived in London for the last 2 years.

The live programme was from Positano, not London, with his mother and many family and friends present.

I can’t put a link because the programme is still on but I will do as soon as they make it available on streaming

• 20 mins later, the friend started to get worried and went out looking for him

Can you tell us please if the friend went far from where he was left with the luggage as 20 min is not really a long time if Antonio had to find somewhere to be sick or have a diarrhoea episode.
I do wonder if there could have been a change of clothes even. Are there any clothes shops nearby where you can check purchases made around the time Antonio went missing.
Could Antonio have made it back to the station wearing different clothes and due to the confusion boarded a train.
Have the station staff only been looking for images of someone the same height wearing the clothes Antonio was wearing when he went missing.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I agree. Perhaps from a little bit earlier in fact, in order to get a sense of who else was hanging around the area at about that time.

Good point.

 

[Officer Dibble]

How long exactly did his friend wait at the station. If Antonio had soiled clothes especially his trousers in my opinion he could have returned after purchasing a whole new outfit. Could this have perhaps been missed and this new identity not noticed on CCTV. What if he got back on a train.

We've been told he waited 20 minutes initially.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I think it's important to check the cameras of any buses that were passing around that time. As someone suggested earlier, he could have got on a bus. He had his backpack with, we are told, his wallet and all his documents, so he didn't go empty-handed. I'm not sure if they were taking several trips to move house, or just the one, but if the latter then he didn't have much else to leave behind.

Totally agree - great idea.

 

[Cherwell]

I wouldn't expect that his train ticket had an all zone included for public transport. All buses in London are cash-free. This means he would have needed to have an Oyster card, contactless payment, or a valid ticket to travel on a London Bus. If he used his bank card then that would be a real breakthrough. I expect the police are looking at all his bank transactions.
These are a few of the details held for Oyster card customers.
Information copied over from the tfl.gov.uk site:-
Personal information we hold
In most cases, registering your Oyster card details with us is optional. If you do register your Oyster card or add it to your online account, the personal information we will hold includes:

• Name, address, email address, telephone number
• Your journey history
• Payment card information or bank account and sort code numbers
• Transaction information (when and where you topped up your balance or purchased a season ticket, or were issued with a refund)

Fine, and he very likely had an Oyster card but that all assumes that he had registered it. If this was a planned disappearance (and that must be considered), he would have used an unregistered card.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Fine, and he very likely had an Oyster card but that all assumes that he had registered it. If this was a planned disappearance (and that must be considered), he would have used an unregistered card.

Or the Police haven't checked it yet? JMO MOO

 

[Positano86]

Hi all,

I have been a little absent from talking but always following,

as I said yesterday I had forwarded Niko (Antoninos brother) the link to this thread but I haven’t had any kind of acknowledgment to my message. Please see below all his details. Maybe somebody else wants to forward?

After reading a few posts I wanted to say:
Moving homes is quite common for young Italians. They move homes to be closer to the Centre etc. Last Monday Antonino was meant to start a new job, maybe he was moving for that reason. Still all with the same crowd. All their social media show pictures together and even when they went back to Positano they would hang out together….
so baffled that somebody can disappear in the middle of the day.

 

[Cherwell]

Or the Police haven't checked it yet? JMO MOO

That is still a possibility, but I meant that someone planning to disappear would use an unregistered card to avoid being traced.

 

[Gia86]

Hi guys!
My thoughts...so it's been almost 10 days, I don't think he is in a hospital (he had all his documents and wallet) so they would be able to identify him if he suddenly passed out in the street and somebody called an ambulance. He has been missing since quite a long time, I don't think he is somewhere stuck where he can't get out and I believe that area has been already checked by the police whatsoever.
That area doesn't have the best reputation, he might have met somebody who had bad intentions, but in day time that sounds quite odd, or the disappearance is planned. We all have our secrets or something going on in life and keep it private. I would hire a private investigator at this point. More "knowledge" is needed. Fingers crossed

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Am looking at this at 13.20 on the 16th. Opposite side of road to camera.

Male, white top, black backpack, pale trousers (or shorts perhaps?). Was it definite he was wearing dark trousers that day? Could that be a mistake or could he have changed, perhaps finding a toilet somewhere within the approx 20 min time frame?

Walking in opposite direction to Bow Road station, perhaps lost bearings in an area he had not been in before? Or maybe intending to get away?

If he kept on going in that direction he would hit Mile End Park, the river, the towpath and the leisure centre.

 

[HollyHunter9]

Looking around the area via Google maps if you go right out of the station,then take first right down mornington rd,.if you keep going until you get to the fork and take the left side you come to quite a dangerous looking area, lots of signs warning about the railway line, builders trucks etc. I'm wondering if he somehow ended up on the tracks? Leaning over to be sick somewhere and accidentally fell? Unfortunately if he was then hit by a train it would have moved him from where he initially was. @Positano86 do you know if the family or police have contacted the railway company? They may be able to search down where it's inaccessible to the public. I've attached a photo to show what I mean.

 

[Positano86]

Looking around the area via Google maps if you go right out of the station,then take first right down mornington rd,.if you keep going until you get to the fork and take the left side you come to quite a dangerous looking area, lots of signs warning about the railway line, builders trucks etc. I'm wondering if he somehow ended up on the tracks? Leaning over to be sick somewhere and accidentally fell? Unfortunately if he was then hit by a train it would have moved him from where he initially was. @Positano86 do you know if the family or police have contacted the railway company? They may be able to search down where it's inaccessible to the public. I've attached a photo to show what I mean.

I do not know to be honest. I am sure the railway has been alerted as they have obtained cctv footage of the station. I don’t know if any other checks have been made further on on the rail tracks. It is frustrating because I do not see any groups of people searching for him.
I really want his brother or other family to see this thread because it contains lots of alternatives, but his brother still has not acknowledged my message. Can somebody else try? Please?
Thank you!

 

[Candelle]

Its very bizarre to vanish without a trace in the middle of the day. Of course he might have willingly wanted to leave and not come back, but seems a very unusual choice to leave a close friend in this manner. I don't agree that its weird he left his wallet etc, he had to wait for the train to get to the next station in order to get out, and when you feel sick that seems a lifetime in itself, let alone thinking rationally about what to take; more often than not its just a case of getting out of there and somewhere you can go to the loo ASAP as it's all that's on your mind at that time.

JMO, but I sadly think that the most likely thing is that he tried to find somewhere secluded to vomit, and perhaps his health took a turn for the worse. Asthma can often cause gastro issues, and of course there's the possibility that his hospital visit wasn't just because he forgot his inhaler, but because something else was going on that was missed healthwise. I hope that the police are reviewing all CCTV in that area, and not waiting around as they have in other cases until its too late and its been wiped.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Am looking at this at 13.20 on the 16th. Opposite side of road to camera.

Male, white top, black backpack, pale trousers (or shorts perhaps?). Was it definite he was wearing dark trousers that day? Could that be a mistake or could he have changed, perhaps finding a toilet somewhere within the approx 20 min time frame?

Walking in opposite direction to Bow Road station, perhaps lost bearings in an area he had not been in before? Or maybe intending to get away?

If he kept on going in that direction he would hit Mile End Park, the river, the towpath and the leisure centre.

The top seems to have long white sleeves and the backback seems to be longer than the missing photo?

 

[Officer Dibble]

I've been thinking about AC moving house and moving jobs in what seems to be a downgraded position of work (from Assistant Manager to Waiter) and it didn't sit right with me at first. But it came to me just now that when my own children were a similar age and working in food serving environments, that they preferred being waiter to being Assistant Manager, because although they were given the responsiblity of unlocking in morning, last one to lock up at night, the person who had to cash up at the end of the night (or day shift) and they were paid more to do that, they actually made more money from tips from being a waiter and being attentive with less responsiblity. That also meant they didn't have to turn up first thing in the morning or be the very last person to leave at night - long hours. So if we apply this to AC he was clearly responsible enough to be made Assistant Manager but also attentive enough to possibly prefer being a waiter with the cash tips. JMO MOO.

Edited to mention, I was also told that the Chefs in restaurants are often Coke-heads due to the stress of the job. Doesn't mean all chefs are but just thought I'd point that out. JMO MOO