Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #2 *M. Bridger guilty*

[Adorabella]

Hi Adorabella.

I know what you mean.

It would be horrifically unthinkable to me if they are focusing on the wrong guy. I think the police must have hard evidence by now, though, and will use the rest of the allocated 24 hours to try and get anything they can out of him. They can't ask him anything after they charge him, if indeed they do.

Hey Opal. I want to believe that the police have the person responsible but based on what they have let us know thus far, it doesn't add up. Of course there may be all manner of stuff that they are keeping quiet, or at least I am hoping that's the case but we did see this same situation before with Chris Jeffries and it wasn't him. The press wrote all sorts of things about Chris Jeffries and many members of the public and previous students had things to say about his 'weirdness' which did not make him a murderer.

MB may be entirely responsible for whatever has happened to April.

However, based on what WE know (not what the police know), it seems unlikely to me at this stage.

What seems more likely is that the police have to be seen to be progressing in the investigation and in changing it to one of 'murder' it certainly looks like progress but is it?

 

[Clutchbag]

April's 'gone'. She was 'put' in a van. She was taken 'away.'

Am I reading too much into this or does this statement alone contradict the witness account. My stomach is in knots over the wording the mother used when she called the childminder.

The childminder named is the godmother btw

 

[Alyce]

Just a gut feeling but I don't think he has cooperated at all. I think things have moved along due to fast-tracked forensics. Jmo.

completely agree with this

 

[lisser]

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...unt-for-missing-April-five.html#ixzz28S1xhAK2

EDIT: If this is the case, the girl should have been able to identify April's abductor as being her own Dad. Would MB abduct a child in front of one of his own children???

And this link says that CJ was looking for April at 8pm and that MH was the friend with April, but that ED was also a few yards away when April was taken.

Neighbour GJ, 51, told how Coral had knocked at his home about 8pm in a frantic state. Mr Jones, who spent yesterday assisting teams searching nearby woodland and fields, said: “Coral came in and just asked us ‘have you seen my little girl’?
“She was distraught and very upset. She was with a group of mothers from the estate and were going door-to-door asking people about April. It’s terrible.”
April’s distraught godmother made a heartfelt appeal to her abductor, begging “please bring our little girl home”.
“I was the first person Coral called. She was absolutely devastated. She was in shock. She was saying ‘April’s gone. She was put in a van. She was taken away’.”
April and best friend MH, aged seven, were playing on their bicycles near their homes when the van pulled up.
M is the key witness and was able to give police a crucial description of the driver. April’s parents had been at a parents’ evening at her primary school to see April’s teachers. Supt John explained: “The children were playing in a small group originally, but just two of them were there when April went into the van.
“They were playing very, very closely to the house.”
ED, five, was also playing with April just yards from her home when April was driven off. E’s parents R and E were comforting her yesterday but her uncle said: “We’re searching the town and we’re doing everything we can. Her friends are very upset.”


ED the child is the daughter of ED, who is the ex-GF to MB. So, MH is just a friend, not related in any way to MB either by blood or past relationship.

 

[bananas76]

People saying on Twitter that a body has been found at Barmouth beach.

 

[lisser]

People saying on Twitter that a body has been found at Barmouth beach.

That's about an hour away according to google maps. Approx. 30 miles. Could be a rumor though unless it's MSM twitter.

 

[Clutchbag]

People saying on Twitter that a body has been found at Barmouth beach.

Yes but its not April Jones, false alarm, source digitalspy forum thread via someone there, was someone who walked into the sea

hasnt stopped it spreading on twitter like wildfire

 

[Clutchbag]

ITV.com


Decision on April murder suspect well before deadline
by Jon Clements - Crime Correspondent
I understand a decision on whether to charge or release Mark Bridger over the murder of April Jones is likely to be made well before the 5pm deadline tomorrow - perhaps in the morning.

A CPS lawyer has been "embedded" with detectives at Aberystwyth police station in recent days to speed up analysis of evidence.

In the last half hour a lot of detectives have gathered at the station for what looks like a long night ahead.
*

 

[Inge Jones]

Yes but its not April Jones, false alarm

So who on earth is it? There's another family's tragedy, I guess...

 

[Jasper52]

And this link says that CJ was looking for April at 8pm and that MH was the friend with April, but that ED was also a few yards away when April was taken.

Neighbour GJ, 51, told how Coral had knocked at his home about 8pm in a frantic state. Mr Jones, who spent yesterday assisting teams searching nearby woodland and fields, said: “Coral came in and just asked us ‘have you seen my little girl’?
“She was distraught and very upset. She was with a group of mothers from the estate and were going door-to-door asking people about April. It’s terrible.”
April’s distraught godmother made a heartfelt appeal to her abductor, begging “please bring our little girl home”.
“I was the first person Coral called. She was absolutely devastated. She was in shock. She was saying ‘April’s gone. She was put in a van. She was taken away’.”
April and best friend MH, aged seven, were playing on their bicycles near their homes when the van pulled up.
M is the key witness and was able to give police a crucial description of the driver. April’s parents had been at a parents’ evening at her primary school to see April’s teachers. Supt John explained: “The children were playing in a small group originally, but just two of them were there when April went into the van.
“They were playing very, very closely to the house.”
ED, five, was also playing with April just yards from her home when April was driven off. E’s parents R and E were comforting her yesterday but her uncle said: “We’re searching the town and we’re doing everything we can. Her friends are very upset.”


ED the child is the daughter of ED, who is the ex-GF to MB. So, MH is just a friend, not related in any way to MB either by blood or past relationship.

This must be the same girl whose mother is the ex-GF in this article. This girl is also 7.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...is-Land-Rover-two-days-before-kidnapping.html

 

[Clio]

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...unt-for-missing-April-five.html#ixzz28S1xhAK2

EDIT: If this is the case, the girl should have been able to identify April's abductor as being her own Dad. Would MB abduct a child in front of one of his own children???

I don't think the Sun article is totally accurate. ED had been playing with April but she wasn't at the exact time April got into the van. The witness was a different child. Not a daughter of MB.

M is the key witness and was able to give police a crucial description of the driver. April’s parents had been at a parents’ evening at her primary school to see April’s teachers. Supt John explained: “The children were playing in a small group originally, but just two of them were there when April went into the van.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...lead-for-information-on-missing-five-year-old

What I find puzzling is that the abduction point was only about 250 feet away from April's house - surely he could hardly have said hop in and I'll give you a lift home......

 

[Jasper52]

So who on earth is it? There's another family's tragedy, I guess...

Sorry, wrong info.

 

[Gemmas]

As always with cases like this I feel such heavy sadness that April has not been yet recovered and my heart is broken for her, her family and community and the police force who should be highly commended on their clearly determined efforts to find her. My thoughts and prayers are with them all. With the little information we have, my opinion is that he may simply be on a 'no comment' mission. Hope is a very underated emotion and gives much strength to us all at some point in our lives. I wish I had something more powerful and useful than my compassion to give at this point.

 

[Clutchbag]

So who on earth is it? There's another family's tragedy, I guess...

Sorry, I edited my post too late, was someone who walked into the sea apparently, however the person who posted it originally posted he was told they had found her body, either at llandanwg or Llanaber beach both which were closed with police activity there, so perhaps best to ignore all non msm tweets

I guess it will appear in the local papers soon if true

 

[michellemarls]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/2012/10/05/april-jones-missing-tears-flow-at-machynlleth-church-service-91466-31977295/

 

[jigzy]

I believe it's that of a 63 year old fisherman, Alan Dawson Patterson.

That was a year ago

 

[bananas76]

Yes but its not April Jones, false alarm, source digitalspy forum thread via someone there, was someone who walked into the sea

hasnt stopped it spreading on twitter like wildfire

I got it from DS too, hope it is a false alarm.

 

[lisser]

I don't think the Sun article is totally accurate. ED had been playing with April but wasn't at the exact time she got into the van. The witness was a different child. Not a daughter of MB.



http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...lead-for-information-on-missing-five-year-old

What I find puzzling is that the abduction point was only about 250 feet away from April's house - surely he could hardly have said hop in and I'll give you a lift home......

This link says she was 200 yards away. That's about 2 football fields away.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...lead-for-information-on-missing-five-year-old

The man, identified as Mark Bridger, a former soldier, is being held on suspicion of abducting April as she played with friends just 200 yards from her home in the small town of Machynlleth, mid-Wales.

 

[stacemcace]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/2012/10/05/april-jones-missing-tears-flow-at-machynlleth-church-service-91466-31977295/

Its so heartbreaking to see how devastated those people are. I've seen the minister being interviewed a few times and I find it hard to hold it together. She is so devastated

 

[helpful]

I was not implying the efforts have not been all out. I have no doubt they have been. Often in cases of a child abduction, information such as life sustaining medical needs are released in the hopes of gaining the sympathy of whoever abducted and is possibly holding the child. Suddenly knowing that the child they abducted is going to need noticeable medical care....such as care for such a specific medical condition....can be an incentive for the abductor to abandon the child in a public place and then flee. Someone who has abducted a child with no intent of murdering the child....will sometimes panic and set that child free when faced with the child's possible death. ( Granted these cases are very rare these days) That was the only reason why I wondered about not releasing the information.

It seems as though April's CP was fairly mild. Perhaps her parents and LE thought that it wasn't severe enough to merit mentioning, and might have feared that releasing such information would distract community members from more important details of the case. A lot of people hear "CP" and think of wheelchairs and adaptive equipment, etc. and maybe the average citizen would have disregarded potentially important information about sightings because the child he or she saw didn't "look like a kid with cerebral palsy." They may have wanted people to be on the lookout for a person, not a collection of symptoms. I hate to say it, but now that it seems unlikely that April will safely return to her family, maybe they feel there will be no useful sightings and released the CP information as an appeal to any withered sense of compassion her abductor has.

Also, people are scared of disability and often don't understand it, leading them to treat people with disabilities differently even if they mean well. Maybe April's family knows this and wanted to protect her by keeping her diagnosis and health information private, so that when she came home safely, the entire community wouldn't be aware of her medical history. I don't know about all of you, but if I were missing, I would really not want my family to release any medical conditions I might have right away. Unfortunately, I feel like the Joneses might have been encouraged by LE to release the information given that it is unlikely to have an adverse effect on April's future.

Also, and this is pure speculation which I'm not sure I can articulate well, sometimes when a child has a disability, parents do everything in their power to make sure that he or she is seen first and foremost as a person, not just a diagnosis. Perhaps they wanted the public to be aware of the disappearance of "a child named April Jones, with unique interests and a personality of her own," rather than "a child with cerebral palsy who happens to be called April Jones."