Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #2 *M. Bridger guilty*

[Agatha Krispy]

Not sure if those are all beer cans. Though you can see a few wine bottles in the pale blue bin.

But just for perspective: my own recycling looks like that right now and I don't drink much, nor have I had a party. When recycling is picked up every 2 weeks as it is for me, I often miss the truck because i never remember which week is recycling. If it were every week I'd remember to set it out, but by skipping weeks it always slips my mind. I therefore have >2 months of alcohol containers - about 3 wine bottles, one of which was used in a recipe, and would probably look like an alkie to my neighbors as well. I suppose lazy people who aren't regular about clearing out their rubbish would also have a build up.

Looked like beer cans to me and lots of them.

 

[Clutchbag]

LE said:
"Now that MB has been charged with this horrific crime it is time to let the judicial process take its course and time to let the family come to terms with what has happened over the last week."

The family will have hope until a body is found which is natural, but this is not just an abduction case any longer, it is also a murder case (this is not a frivolous charge but one based on evidence that we are obviously not privy to), so the family must come to terms with the charge as difficult as it must be.

LE said "horrific". They've got the evidence to prove this claim, I reckon.

And as I stated before 'motive' does not have to be present/proved to get a conviction.

so they are certain ther was a murder hope they conveyed it

 

[nursebeeme]

so they are certain ther was a murder hope they conveyed it

conveyed it to whom?

 

[Clutchbag]

I am sure there is more to it than that.
I don't think they could lay charges if there was not sufficient evidence. Also I don't think that they would say that she will not be found alive if they did not find something that leads them to that conclusion. They wouldn't put her family through that If they were not sure.

Of course they have more than the say so of a 7 year old. I also think the reason why the mother names him is because of descriptions given of him and the vehicle from interviews of witnesses not because they thought he would kidnap and murder their daughter.

We won't know what evidence they have until it comes to trial. The public and media are not privvy to that information. I am sure they have given the family their reasons for the charges and that will not be made public knowledge.

I think little April's family obviously still want to find her for some closure, no one wants to go through life not knowing where your precious child's final resting place is and what exactly happened. They want her found and home so they can say goodbye And bury her.

All moo of course.

No, the police can give closure bu saying she is def dead

 

[cluciano63]

If this person killed her I thinK it should be law to interview then and ask WHY

But he has not admitted it. (referring to the suspect in Sierra's case.) In fact, he has not even entered a plea yet, it keeps getting delayed.

 

[go997]

Christ, thes pictures. This just looks like any of the lads down the pub. There is nothing weird looking about him and I bet a lot of the women in the town quite fancied him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213802/Mark-Bridger-charged-abduction-murder-year-old-April-Jones.html

So much for profiling!

 

[Jezbel]

No, the police can give closure bu saying she is def dead

That's not really going to give closure while still knowing their little girls body is out there somewhere.

 

[imamaze]

I am sure there is more to it than that.
I don't think they could lay charges if there was not sufficient evidence. Also I don't think that they would say that she will not be found alive if they did not find something that leads them to that conclusion. They wouldn't put her family through that If they were not sure.

Of course they have more than the say so of a 7 year old. I also think the reason why the mother names him is because of descriptions given of him and the vehicle from interviews of witnesses not because they thought he would kidnap and murder their daughter.

We won't know what evidence they have until it comes to trial. The public and media are not privvy to that information. I am sure they have given the family their reasons for the charges and that will not be made public knowledge.

I think little April's family obviously still want to find her for some closure, no one wants to go through life not knowing where your precious child's final resting place is and what exactly happened. They want her found and home so they can say goodbye And bury her.

All moo of course.

BBM...

I agree with everything you've said, but I do think this is the case with April's family.

Ima

 

[Clutchbag]

conveyed it to whom?

That's not really going to give closure while still knowing their little girls body is out there somewhere.

closure as in death
it seems they have not been given it

 

[Clutchbag]

I am sure there is more to it than that.
I don't think they could lay charges if there was not sufficient evidence. Also I don't think that they would say that she will not be found alive if they did not find something that leads them to that conclusion. They wouldn't put her family through that If they were not sure.

Of course they have more than the say so of a 7 year old. I also think the reason why the mother names him is because of descriptions given of him and the vehicle from interviews of witnesses not because they thought he would kidnap and murder their daughter.

We won't know what evidence they have until it comes to trial. The public and media are not privvy to that information. I am sure they have given the family their reasons for the charges and that will not be made public knowledge.

I think little April's family obviously still want to find her for some closure, no one wants to go through life not knowing where your precious child's final resting place is and what exactly happened. They want her found and home so they can say goodbye And bury her.

All moo of course.

The brit police have laid charges before against innocent people with no evidence

 

[dandan08]

closure as in death
it seems they have not been given it

I don't think the family will have any closure until April's body has been found. Unless this kind of thing has happened to you, it's impossible to say how you would act. Even after being told we have proof she has been murdered, I think I would still have that tiny bit of hope it's not true until she has been found. Then you can get closure.

It's still raw for the parents and the community there, and until she has been found they are still always going to have that hope that she maybe still alive.

 

[Jezbel]

closure as in death
it seems they have not been given it

That would not bring closure to me, I would still want to find my child's body and bring her home no matter what. To go through life not knowing where she is would be even more unbearable pain on top of the pain of knowing that she was murdered.
I don't think anyone who has had a missing/murdered family member truly has closure until they are found and can be buried. I have followed a lot of missing persons cases new and old and that is what most say.
Of course no doubt there will always be that 'what if' in the back of your mind until they are found I'm sure

 

[Clutchbag]

That's not really going to give closure while still knowing their little girls body is out there somewhere.

the police are saying they are LOOKING FOR A BODY ergo a dead child, hence they should tell the family she is definitely dead or if they dOnt know should shut up

 

[Jezbel]

The brit police have laid charges before against innocent people with no evidence

So have most police forces. Doesn't mean this is the case here. They found something that made them change it from abduction to murder

 

[BritsKate]

The brit police have laid charges before against innocent people with no evidence

For a child homicide?

 

[Cappuccino]

the police are saying they are LOOKING FOR A BODY ergo a dead child, hence they should tell the family she is definitely dead or if they dOnt know should shut up

You don't know what the police have or haven't told the family, nor what evidence they have to launch a murder enquiry. Maybe you shouldn't be telling the police to shut up.

 

[Jezbel]

the police are saying they are LOOKING FOR A BODY ergo a dead child, hence they should tell the family she is definitely dead or if they dOnt know should shut up

As I am sure they have told the family that. Do you know that they havent?

 

[Clutchbag]

That would not bring closure to me, I would still want to find my child's body and bring her home no matter what. To go through life not knowing where she is would be even more unbearable pain on top of the pain of knowing that she was murdered.
I don't think anyone who has had a missing/murdered family member truly has closure until they are found and can be buried. I have followed a lot of missing persons cases new and old and that is what most say.
Of course no doubt there will always be that 'what if' in the back of your mind until they are found I'm sure

but the family are posting on facebook asking people to pray for the safe return of april so no they do NOT have closure with the police saying she is dead

I give up

 

[opalsqueak63]

Christ, thes pictures. This just looks like any of the lads down the pub. There is nothing weird looking about him and I bet a lot of the women in the town quite fancied him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213802/Mark-Bridger-charged-abduction-murder-year-old-April-Jones.html

So much for profiling!

Thanks for the link. OMG - look at the one of him with the dogs - he looks as cute as a button I'm not at all surprised that he had so many takers on the estate. I know you shouldn't ever judge by looks and expressions, but to me, it's only human to do so.

 

[Clutchbag]

As I am sure they have told the family that. Do you know that they havent?

the family are askkng for prayers to bring their child home so seems no one has proved to them she is dead