Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #5 *M. Bridger guilty*

[Cherwell]

April was playing with 7 year old MH (A neighbour's daughter). I do not believe she is the godmother's daughter.

I think Mair, the godmother, lives in Aberystwyth.

 

[minime72]

I think Mair, the godmother, lives in Aberystwyth.

Yes i think she does

 

[nursebeeme]

thats not a given until he has been tried and proven guilty though surely

well, I trust law enforcement that they have met the legal burden to charge him. As for the rest, well, even if he walks free that does not mean he didn't commit the crime.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

April was playing with a neighbours daughter (MH) outside THE HOME OF Bridgers ex (ED). Coral went to call April as she wanted her home. After knocking on doors she discovered April had got into a vehicle. When she returned home to phone the police she also rang Mair and told her April had been kidnapped.

April HAD been playing with several children then was with just MH and ED'S daughter, also ED. ED said she was cold and wanted to go in so that left JUST April and MH.

It still doesn't make sense though. MB was well known by the children and on the estate. They would have said it was him that April was with. Why would Coral automatically think her child had been kidnapped. MB might have driven her to the shop for some sweets for all she knew. He was a trusted uncle who took her on a fishing trip.

Something isn't right in all this.

 

[nursebeeme]

It still doesn't make sense though. MB was well known by the children and on the estate. They would have said it was him that April was with. Why would Coral automatically think her child had been kidnapped. MB might have driven her to the shop for some sweets for all she knew. He was a trusted uncle who took her on a fishing trip.

Something isn't right in all this.

I surly hope this is not going down the avenue of speculating about the parents? Websleuths is a family and victim friendly site and this includes the family members of April Jones.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

I surly hope this is not going down the avenue of speculating about the parents? Websleuths is a family and victim friendly site and this includes the family members of April Jones.

No, I just know that if my sons uncle picked him up, I wouldn't be alarmed until about 4, or 5 hours had passed.

 

[cluciano63]

It still doesn't make sense though. MB was well known by the children and on the estate. They would have said it was him that April was with. Why would Coral automatically think her child had been kidnapped. MB might have driven her to the shop for some sweets for all she knew. He was a trusted uncle who took her on a fishing trip.

Something isn't right in all this.

Maybe the child DID name him and that is part of what is being held back, and also why they were onto MB so quickly.

 

[Clutchbag]

well, I trust law enforcement that they have met the legal burden to charge him. As for the rest, well, even if he walks free that does not mean he didn't commit the crime.

Yes Of course hey must have but he is still presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Sometimes evidence is planted, sometimes its not direct proof.

If he is guilty and walks free there will definitely be signs pointing to this at the trial even if the jury is not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he is or off on some legal technicality. But to say he IS the perpetrator is a bit too soon imo especially when we have seen none of the evidence. As some guilty have got off and we all know who they are, likewise there have been miscarriages of justice. Both are awful situations.

 

[nursebeeme]

No, I just know that if my sons uncle picked him up, I wouldn't be alarmed until about 4, or 5 hours had passed.

Extending speculation onto the family at this time is not allowed. They are not suspects or persons of interest in this case and are considered victims.

 

[Cherwell]

<modsnip> suggesting that there is something about MB that we don't know about, which caused April's mum to be alarmed.

 

[Clutchbag]

No, I just know that if my sons uncle picked him up, I wouldn't be alarmed until about 4, or 5 hours had passed.

if he hadnt told you and you were wondering where he was and have no communication I think you might well be especially at night and if no family gathering like birthday party or outing or something had been planned and discussed



Eta just read nursebeemees post, pls delete if needed

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Extending speculation onto the family at this time is not allowed. They are not suspects or persons of interest in this case and are considered victims.

<modsnip>.

 

[jigzy]

Hi all, newbie lurker here

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2. The garages AJ was playing at, where was the vehicle parked? They are on the left coming out of the estate so someone driving a LH side vehicle it would be obvious if AJ had to climb over the driver assuming the witness from point 1 above was close enough to see let alone beg her not to get in. If it was parked the other way that face into the estate and a dead end or if it drove into the garage area would have to have turned around/reversed.
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Not quite sure I understand your Point 2 above.
The garages are not on the left coming out of the estate, as in onto the main road - they are at the very back of the estate. The map we have seen posted here by a member shows the image upside down in terms of North & South, iykwim.

Here the garages are opposite the 6th house from the left at the top of the image. Graveyard on left is to the West (roughly), and April's school on the right to the East.

http://goo.gl/maps/zp058


Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

 

[minime72]

Jigsy my understanding is the garages off the part of the road that says 114-93. That appears to be a dead end. The garages are on the right going in opposite the 6th house

What Im saying is you can't drive out of there looking on street view so the car would presumably be facing the exit which is the junction of brynygog and Garth rd?

 

[Elainera]

No. It's the other way round in the UK. If the person charged has refused to say where the body is, the likely penalty stays as life imprisonment but the number of years before the prisoner can be considered for parole increases.

Mmmh, not sure how this is the other way round, but ok.

What if he does tell where the body is? Would he get an earlier chance for parole?

Would he get an advantage if he'd now tell them where it is?

 

[minime72]

On street view there is a trailer and a red corsa? at the bottom of those garages. That's what im referring to as that part of the estate looks like a dead end so presumably the car would be parked facing out of that road then its a right then immediate right onto Garth rd

If that's the case the driver of a LH car would be nearest the garages on exit

 

[Elainera]

I was thinking about April's clothes. I often read that for some reason murderers sometimes dispose of their victim's clothes seperately. I don't know if that is often the case or rarely? They also often get rid of their own clothes to be forensically "clean".

In one article I read that in Machynlleth in the first week of searching they were looking through all the garbage bins and dumpsters etc on the streets. Did they do the same in the village where he lived? (sorry forgot the name!) I didn't read about that.

Her purple coat would surely be easy to spot.

 

[Agatha Krispy]

I just wanted to add to this that the press saying the 7yr old pleaded with April not to go must also be a lie. If it was so traumatic for the 7yr old she would have told her mom straight away and her mother would have called Coral, but now knowing it was Coral who called, I am confused and suspicious.

Not necessarily so if she thought she would be in trouble.

 

[jigzy]

minime72 - yes, if your thinking that Garth Road/ Tanrallt Rd is the exit route. (I think this is a likely, and quiet gettaway route).
The main exit route from the estate is at the bottom of the googlemap I posted onto the Newtown Rd.

 

[jigzy]

On street view there is a trailer and a red corsa? at the bottom of those garages. That's what im referring to as that part of the estate looks like a dead end so presumably the car would be parked facing out of that road then its a right then immediate right onto Garth rd

If that's the case the driver of a LH car would be nearest the garages on exit

No, a LEFT and immediate right