Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #5 *M. Bridger guilty*

[Adorabella]

The mobile being off is the one fly in the ointment, though I can imagine that only his last partner would know that number, as people do typically change their phones and numbers (especially if you switch from a tariff to a PAYG when you lose your income) from time to time. And if she had not at the time heard Coral's suspicions about Mark, maybe it simply didn't occur to her to get him involved by phoning him.

Or it wasn't charged? Or he doesn't have one? Or he didn't have credit? There are so many reasons why....

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Do we really know that he said that?

All we 'know' is from MSM, this is another piece in that puzzle. I don't think it's highly crucial in itself, but someone here wants to question that MB even knew that April was missing, mobile out of range, no TV or radio, blah blah blah, well if the above is accurate, then obviously he did.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Or it wasn't charged? Or he doesn't have one? Or he didn't have credit? There are so many reasons why....

He had one, police said they were getting positional fixes from the phone.

 

[Adorabella]

He had one, police said they were getting positional fixes from the phone.

Ah. I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link, please? *No worries - I just found an article that mentions 'cell site analysis.'

 

[Clutchbag]

He asked the searcher 'how it was going' i.e. the search, not asking the searcher how he or she was going.:banghead:

Have you got a link please, first time i have read this

 

[LegallyBrunette]

And just to add one more from the devil's advocate, IF his phone was off, out of credit, whatever, didn't listen to TV or radio - think on this - he DID drop his car off to the garage, do you really think it wouldn't have been mentioned in such a small place, 'how ya going mate, you been involved in the search etc'. Unless he changed clothes after dropping off the car, he was even dressed in a way that would imply he was already helping in the search.

 

[Agatha Krispy]

I said yesterday his chest tattoo said a lot about his personality. This is a man who thinks he is better than others, the tattoo is a warning of what to expect. Possessive, jealous, vengeful. Incapable of accepting rejection.

I'm a Scorpio birth sign BE CAREFUL

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Have you got a link please, first time i have read this

It was from ITV I think, easy to find.
Sorry I haven't got time to go looking for links now, am doing a law tute.
The links have been posted quite a few times in previous threads for April.

 

[Clutchbag]

If it is true what we've provisionally deduced, which is that no one directly involved with the case knew exactly where he was living as he'd only just moved there, then it is possible he simply hadn't heard. Possibility is that he went home that evening and got drunk, so that he could add more cans to his recycling. While doing so he listened to CDs rather than the TV. Then, in the early hours of the morning he conked out asleep, till just before lunch (the times given are my own guesses not something I have read) when he needed to start looking for a place that could take his car for repairs. WHile in the car he played CDs rather than listen to the radio. Then he dropped off the car, and started walking back to wherever he was going, with the bag of rubbish he cleared out of his car before leaving it, antisocially dumping it in the river, and then got spotted and picked up. I mean, don't we all have a bag of rubbish we hurriedly clear out of our cars when handing them in for repairs.

NB I am not proclaiming his innocence, as he is the official suspect. I am simply saying that what he have read so far in the press is not the evidence that could be relied on in the trial as it's too open to other explanations.

Not until lunch because a named witness said he ran into him at 9.15 and the gear crashing story

 

[Clutchbag]

It was from ITV I think, easy to find.
Sorry I haven't got time to go looking for links now, am doing a law tute.
The links have been posted quite a few times in previous threads for April.

Ok thanks, I will google itv mark bridger asked a searcher how is it going and see how far I get, meantime if anyone else has the link or another search term pls post TIA

 

[Blunomore]

THe more I think of it, the more this still bothers me. I just cant get my mind around it. I am trying to think that maybe it was dusk and hard for the child witness to see, but these are the sunrise/sunset times. As you can see it would have just have beginning to be sunset at 6.37pm not even dusk for a while after.

1 Oct 2012

07:02

18:37


There is such a difference from a transit van to a landrover, its higher off the ground for one and also the wheels are bigger. Even for a small child the difference is alot. Colours though, a very small child would know, especially the difference between cream and dark blue.

So if according to the child witness AJ got into a lightcoloured van, why was police asking people about a dark blue LD ?

 

[Inge Jones]

Anyway, back to the search... I think we can surely to goodness assume that if a killing took place, the disposal would have needed to take place before morning light. No one can be stupid enough to leave it any longer. And once the search was well under way, it would be completely out of the question to move it again, other than within the same house or caravan.

This means that assuming her body (alive and then dead) was under control of MB from the moment she went missing, it can only have been disposed of within the range of where his mobile signal was picked up - *unless* - he was clever enough to leave it somewhere as a decoy while he went elsewhere to perform the disposal? How far can he have gone safely in a dodgy car? Did he in fact have a second vehicle as I have seen suggested?

 

[veggiefan]

Then, in the early hours of the morning he conked out asleep, till just before lunch (the times given are my own guesses not something I have read) when he needed to start looking for a place that could take his car for repairs.

He was seen leaving Ceinws at 9.15 am by a Mr David Richards, who said that he seemed agitated, flustered and in a great hurry. “He was crashing the gears, making a hell of a noise. He went out to the junction, then stopped and there was an almighty bang. There was something wrong with the vehicle.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9588326/April-Jones-Mark-Bridger-was-at-school-parents-evening.html

In addition, The Sun reported that someone had told the police that MB's car was not parked on his driveway shortly before 8am Tuesday.

I would presume that he took the Discovery to the garage when he left at 9.15, but what he did and where he went while apparently out from before 8am until around 9am is something LE will be very anxious to discover.

 

[Blunomore]

.... but what he did and where he went while apparently out between about 8am and 9am is something LE will be very anxious to discover.

Actually, make that between 19:00 on the Monday night and 09:00 on the Tuesday morning.

 

[Adorabella]

In addition, The Sun reported that someone had told the police that MB's car was not parked on his driveway shortly before 8am Tuesday.

Please excuse me if I am being totally obtuse BUT I thought no-one knew where MB was living apparently, so how is it they knew that his car wasn't parked on his driveway?

 

[LegallyBrunette]

http://www.channel4.com/news/april-jones-missing-girl-sighting-river-bank-man

In case you haven't found it yet

Even if he didn't ask, blind Freddie couldn't have missed that a huge search was going on.

Also, re FB, forgot to say that one of the witnesses who saw the 'black bin bag man' is also on VF's FB friends, as are C-P.J.

 

[Clio]

So if according to the child witness AJ got into a lightcoloured van, why was police asking people about a dark blue LD ?

They weren't until after MB was arrested and it transpired his Landrover was dark blue.

All they had said before that was they were looking for a white/light grey van which could be a similar to a Ford Connect or a Landrover.

After the arrest they appealled for any sightings of MB or the blue Landrover, contact with him etc between 5pm on Monday to 3:30pm on Tuesday. This later changed to from 6:30pm on Monday to 3:30pm on Tuesday. Reason given was so that LE could "overlay" witness sightings/contact with MB's accounts of events.

 

[Clio]

Please excuse me if I am being totally obtuse BUT I thought no-one knew where MB was living apparently, so how is it they knew that his car wasn't parked on his driveway?

IIRC it's because after he was arrested and the police started searching Mount Pleasant cottage, the press went and interviewed neighbours etc who then recanted their recollection of Tuesday morning.

 

[Blunomore]

They weren't until after MB was arrested and it transpired his Landrover was dark blue.

All they had said before that was they were looking for a white/light grey van which could be a similar to a Ford Connect or a Landrover.

After the arrest they appealled for any sightings of MB or the blue Landrover, contact with him etc between 5pm on Monday to 3:30pm on Tuesday. This later changed to from 6:30pm on Monday to 3:30pm on Tuesday. Reason given was so that LE could "overlay" witness sightings/contact with MB's accounts of events.

Unless MB owned a light coloured vehicle (or had the use of one), this puts it in a little bit of a different light for me.

 

[Agatha Krispy]

Please excuse me if I am being totally obtuse BUT I thought no-one knew where MB was living apparently, so how is it they knew that his car wasn't parked on his driveway?

This was someone in Ceinws, not Machynlleth. It's a tiny hamlet - suggesting most things are noticed, especially "newcomers".