Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #6 *M. Bridger guilty*

[PADDYWHACK]

LRD = LandRover Discovery. The vehicle in the image you uploaded is a Toyota, and a RHD one.

Sorry to be confusing, but I don't even know a 12yr old that knows the difference between a LRD and a Toyota never mind a 7yr old.

 

[jigzy]

We don't know for sure that it was a left hand drive. If the witness didn't see the vehicle occupant, how do you know April wasn't lifted in by the driver? The other image looks like April's mother, I just spotted it while looking for alleys.

We indeed don't for sure that A left in a left hand drive vehicle at all, but what are you implying about this Toyota?
As for the red head - she may well be CJ (though I don't think it is - that hair colour is straight out of a bottle - just like many women have their hair), but that's not the Jones' house.

 

[jigzy]

Would the blue arrow on the attached ariel photo be where the gate/alley is on your photos?

Yes, there's no gate across the alley though, just that there's a gate there at the garage end of the alley, by someone's house.

 

[uk_sleuth]

Didn't the OAP say that the vehicle was parked near the garages? Did April get in then? maybe the passenger side was inaccessible.

 

[Adorabella]

I believe I was beaten to this, but the way I read it, young ED was there and saw the abduction as well. 2 child witnesses, 7 year old MH, and 5 year old ED.

Phew! Thank you. For a moment, I thought that the only witness to this crime was a 7 year old.

 

[jigzy]

Sorry to be confusing, but I don't even know a 12yr old that knows the difference between a LRD and a Toyota never mind a 7yr old.

But THAT in your image isn't a left hand drive! The driver is clearly seen sitting in the right hand seat - the driver's seat.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

We indeed don't for sure that A left in a left hand drive vehicle at all, but what are you implying about this Toyota?
As for the red head - she may well be CJ (though I don't think it is - that hair colour is straight out of a bottle - just like many women have their hair), but that's not the Jones' house.

Firstly, the child witness doesn't know it was a LRD or Toyota, I was pointing out a similar shape and colour vehicle on the same estate.

The garden image looks as if she could be leaving through the back garden.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

But THAT in your image isn't a left hand drive! The driver is clearly seen sitting in the right hand seat - the driver's seat.

The child doesn't know that either. It is why I said previously the driver could have lifted April into the vehicle.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Phew! Thank you. For a moment, I thought that the only witness to this crime was a 7 year old.

Makes it so much better to have a 5yr old too?

 

[TulipaNoir]

I spotted this vehicle near to garages and these people in the back garden

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It's a Toyota though?

 

[Clutchbag]

We don't know for sure that it was a left hand drive. If the witness didn't see the vehicle occupant, how do you know April wasn't lifted in by the driver? The other image looks like April's mother, I just spotted it while looking for alleys.

what other image??

 

[jigzy]

The child doesn't know that either. It is why I said previously the driver could have lifted April into the vehicle.

I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what your point is here. The LE effectively said on Tues 2nd Oct that A could have entered the vehicle on the drivers' side (Right) or it could have been a left hand drive vehicle and she entered via the passenger side (right). What on Earth does this Toyota have to do with anything?

 

[Cendlaetholwr]

Sorry to be confusing, but I don't even know a 12yr old that knows the difference between a LRD and a Toyota never mind a 7yr old.

I know a kid who, at the age of 4, recognises the car that I drive to be a Renault, identifies other Renaults (not even the same model) on the road, and ditto with Jaguars, as his father has one.

 

[Clutchbag]

I spotted this vehicle near to garages and these people in the back garden

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what other people? Only see one guy here unless they got modsnipped

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Didn't the OAP say that the vehicle was parked near the garages? Did April get in then? maybe the passenger side was inaccessible.

No one knows. Clearly the police were working on the principle of child abductors being friends/acquaintances. They are obviously not bothering to look at family/neighbours, or they would have ripped that estate apart with a fine tooth comb. I've also read that 10% of those who commit such crimes will actively go out as part of the search party!

 

[Cendlaetholwr]

Firstly, the child witness doesn't know it was a LRD or Toyota, I was pointing out a similar shape and colour vehicle on the same estate.

The garden image looks as if she could be leaving through the back garden.

But yes, I do see your point about the same colour vehicle and same *type* of vehicle on the same estate, even though they're different make & model.

 

[jigzy]

The Jones' house is the block of houses at the bottom right here. The red head is in the garden of the block just up-screen of the Jones' block. Do a virtual drive Paddywhack and you will see for yourself.


http://goo.gl/maps/Fgjxh

So if it IS CJ then she is in someone else's garden. I don't think it is relevant either way. jmo

 

[Cendlaetholwr]

what other people? Only see one guy here unless they got modsnipped

It was a Streetview image of a woman walking with a black-uniformed man towards the garden gate.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what your point is here. The LE effectively said on Tues 2nd Oct that A could have entered the vehicle on the drivers' side (Right) or it could have been a left hand drive vehicle and she entered via the passenger side (right). What on Earth does this Toyota have to do with anything?

Bridger drives a left hand drive, the vehicle could have been a right hand drive.

 

[Marymead]

Sorry to be confusing, but I don't even know a 12yr old that knows the difference between a LRD and a Toyota never mind a 7yr old.

But no child said it was a LRD did they. Pale coloured vehicle, small at the front and big at the back was the child's description.

I am also of the mind that a 5 year old wouldn't find it easy climbing in to a large 4WD vehicle, April is only a little thing.