UK UK - Bristol & Surrounding Areas, multiple missing people reported after a night out, worrying trend.

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After the recent missing reporting of Sebastian Sailes, who went missing after leaving a pub in Chippenham, which is 30 minutes away from Bristol via car.
Please see below thread of his missing report:


I noticed a few missing reports of similar scenarios of a night out happening in Bristol or around. For Example:

Jack O'Sullivan - UK - UK - Jack O'Sullivan, 22, left friends after night out, last seen Brunel Lock Road/Brunel Way, Bristol at 3.15am, 2 Mar 2024

Luis Piovesana - UK - Luis Piovesana, 26, last seen 3am in Eastgate Retail Park, Bristol. Feb 28 25.

I know there is an argument for seemingly men when drunk, they do move towards the water for whatever reason, I just think there has been an influx recently in these cases.

I do wonder if there is a drug problem, in the case of Luis who was reporting to the police and his sister I believe, that he had been drugged.
 
  • #2
I have also noticed this trend!

I wonder if it's a case of things being reported more or if there is something more sinister going on? I know there is a University in Bristol which one would imagine brings with it a bustling nightlife scene - this could explain drugs being a popular theme in these cases?

I think it's worth keeping an eye on for sure.
 
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There was also a string of young men ending up in the docks/river in Bristol a little while ago. I would say though that Chippenham is a bit of a distance/journey from Bristol.
 
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By Laura Churchill 13 JUN 2017
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'Deaths in waterways around the Bristol region have sparked calls for more to be and even rumours of something more criminal afoot.
The police have ruled out social media theories of a 'Bristol pusher' working around the city.'
''Police say the recent deaths of young men in water near Bristol’s city centre “appear to have been tragic accidents”.
They have responded to intense speculation on social media today that a serial killer has been deliberately pushing them into the city docks or the River Avon.''
2017
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'Fears are growing that a so-called “pusherserial killer is shoving men into waterways in Bristol after four bodies were recovered from water in the city in four months.'
 
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any big city which has a large water source in the city centre is going to have deaths involving water imo.

Water & alcohol/drugs just do not mix.

For years Manchester had rumours of a canal pusher - but in reality most of these men who went missing either had mental health problems or were extremely intoxicated.
 
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I have just started a thread on Lee Horton, 36, who has very recently gone missing in Bristol:


I have to say that I do not think there is any connection at all between the men who have recently gone missing in the Bristol area (which seems to include Chippenham, some 20 miles away, and Caldicot, a similar distance by road over the Bristol Channel in Wales).
 
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any big city which has a large water source in the city centre is going to have deaths involving water imo.

Water & alcohol/drugs just do not mix.

For years Manchester had rumours of a canal pusher - but in reality most of these men who went missing either had mental health problems or were extremely intoxicated.
Not sure …..some had no water in their lungs ,so were dead before hitting the water .and it has been shown that the canals are shaped in such a way that falling in would leave you in water that could be stood up in near the edge . Not saying drugs and alcohol are not involved but there must be more to it surely ?
 
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I live just outside Bristol I do know Bristol has a bit of an epidemic with Ketamine... Especially with the youngsters ...its cheap and readily available.. was speaking to a 50 odd year old buisness man who runs his own restaurant he moved from a nice area I asked him why he moved here even he admitted he was partial to Ketamine and Bristol was the heart of its distribution... I'm nearly 50 now and dont mind admitting I tried it once in my early 20s ... All it did to me was make me feel like I was walking on a constant ramp it was bizzare....totally off balance ... Some other guys who took it again that night started freaking out seeing all kinds of crazy 🤬🤬🤬🤬 .... Now if someone took that willingly or was spiked maybe thought they were taking a line of cocaine which is another popular nightlife drug and in fact the line was Ketamine and then they tried to walk accross that little bridge or walkway pictured above ... No offence but they are going in.... Alcohol is bad enough I dont drink anymore but once on a work do I had had one too many and it took me an hour and a half to walk a 20 minute walk back home seemingly the pavement wasn't wide enough for just me I was zig zagging falling into the road it was terrible ... Again if you are walking around water with no guard like I was you are going in... If you think wow what a pretty night wm gonna check the reflection in the water 8/10 you are going in...
However saying that if there was ever anyone went in with malicious intent and drowned with no direct footage the first thing many UK police will think is got drunk fell in the river... Yeah personally I dont think many are suspicious alot of people et hammered on their nights out and the water is everywhere in Bristol just waiting for her next victim
 
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Maybe they need to increase the CCTV coverage around the city. I don't know how much there is, and I know you can't cover the entire waterway, but maybe all of the paths used by pedestrians that get close enough to fall in, if there are areas not already covered. (I am an idealist about these things.)

How is this problem being addressed?
 
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I think a lack of lighting plays a factor in some of these cases too. The move to LED lights leaves a lot of shadows, harder to see where you are going and harder for people to see you on footpaths. MOO
 
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Maybe they need to increase the CCTV coverage around the city. I don't know how much there is, and I know you can't cover the entire waterway, but maybe all of the paths used by pedestrians that get close enough to fall in, if there are areas not already covered. (I am an idealist about these things.)

How is this problem being addressed?
The UK is already one of the most surveilled countries in the world. There's a lot of disquiet in some circles about the implications of that for personal privacy so significantly increasing CCTV systems even further in public places would probably not go down well.
 
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Sadly found deceased: Body found in search for Llanelli man missing in Bristol

I have studied the missing people in Bristol who end up in water. Something seems very, very off about it all. I went as far as mapping it out and it's all concentrated in almost exactly the same area.
 
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So here is my "working" list of names I've researched. There may be some I've missed:

Alec Unsgaard

Jason Gurgul

Isaac Morris (may be an anomaly)

Lewis Ball

Lily Fenton

Abdulkadir Mahamoud

Deakon Wilkins

Trung Vu

Nick Wright

and sadly now Rehaan:

all to me, seem extremely odd and highly suspicious.
 
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The bloke who went in the harbour on Sunday morning was a PC:

"A police force have confirmed the death of their "colleague and friend" whose body was found in a city centre harbour.

PC Rehaan Akhtar, from Llanelli, in Wales, disappeared on a night out with friends in Bristol and was last seen at around 01:00 GMT on Sunday near the city's harbourside. His body was recovered on Monday."


I'm not sure I find these unfortunate deaths that suspicious. Bath has long had a similar issue with young men = especially students after a night out - falling in the Avon and for some while there has been talk of a Manchester Pusher. From Wikipedia:

"The Manchester Pusher is the name given to a hypothetical serial killer, or individual, alleged to be responsible for the deaths of a number of people whose bodies have been retrieved from the waterways (principally the canals) of Greater Manchester, England, since at least 2007. Proponents of the theory claim that the "alarming" number of deaths to have occurred in the Rochdale. Ashton and Bridgewater Canals since the early 2000s cannot all have occurred as the result of accidents or suicides, and must have involved some element of foul play. Between 2008 and 2016 alone, 85 deaths were recorded in Greater Manchester's canals.

Greater Manchester Police have for years attempted to dispel the myth of the 'Manchester pusher', and offered alternate explanations for the numbers of deaths, but the theory of the pusher "often returns". Councillor Pat Karney, Manchester's city centre spokesman, dismissed the theory of a 'Manchester pusher' as an urban myth, adding "It [..] will never die, and any time there's an incident or accident it comes up again. I think it causes distress to the families that have lost their loved ones"."

As someone who has lived in Bristol most of my life and spent a few years living in Manchester in the 1980s, and has been three sheets in the wind many times in both cities - and I've had more than a few in Bath on several occasions - I have to say I find it baffling that so many people fall in the water and drown, but it happens in lots of places.
 
  • #20
It's a morbid task but if you plot the place that these poor people were found, they've (almost) all got a few things in common:

  1. Drinking late at night
  2. bodies found near harbourside,
  3. some had been to a known nightclub where drugs are dealt / drinks spiked (I wont name it but it's mentioned in some articles online) or near that nightclub
  4. get separated from friends and end up alone prior to going missing
  5. most seem to happen on: friday / saturday / sunday
  6. most also seem to happen in the winter months
  7. almost all are in their twenties and are students or young professionals
  8. mostly all male
  9. all seem to go missing between 10pm and 4am
If this was a normal occurrence, you'd see it replicated in many different cities, but the only other city where we see this (that I'm aware of) is Manchester, although not quite on the same scale as Bristol. There does appear to be a pattern.

If you take the most recent case, Rehaan, and look at my 9 points, lets see how many he checks:

1) check (1am), 2) check (harbourside), 3) not released publicly, 4) check (alone without friend), 5) check (sunday), 6) check (november), 7) check (age 28), 8) check (male), 9) check (1am)

as expected, he fits all but one category and the one he doesn't check is simply because the police haven't released that information yet, so it could be true
 

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