UK UK - Cerrigydrudion, Wales, Male Skeletal, >54, in woods, head trauma, Nov'15

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Ten years on, and the victim has still not been identified, so the police are launching a new appeal, this time with a £20,000 reward.

 
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'Following extensive forensic examinations, experts believe the man found was born before 1950 and was likely of Caucasian heritage.
He is thought to have been between 5ft 8ins and 5ft 10ins tall, with a well-built frame and a history of back problems. It’s believed that he died sometime between 2004 and 2011.'

'He had several missing teeth before his death, and significant injuries have led detectives to treat this as a case of murder, Crimestoppers added.
A composite image of a man, they are the mock-up facial images which show how police believe the man could have looked in his 60s (left) and 70s (right). Both images are black and white.

''The mock-up facial images also show how police believe the man could have looked in his 60s (left) and 70s (right) [Crimestoppers]
In 2016, police officers appealed for help from dentists after the investigation revealed the man had undergone two identifiable dental procedures.
They said he had crown work done when the procedure was commonly performed in the UK between 1980 and 2000.''
 
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The remains of the man found in Clocaenog Forest are likely to have been left there sometime between 2004 and 2010.

Detectives found fabric from a green Pringle jumper sold between 2000 and 2004 and a label for Marks & Spencer underwear from 1999 to 2000 near the site.

The remains were found in October 2015 during a Wales GB Rally Stage when a spectator discovered part of a skull.

North Wales Police launched a large scale forensic search around the forest and were able to recover virtually an entire male skeleton.

Tests on the skeleton and skull have produced a DNA profile.

A post-mortem examination discovered he had been murdered by blunt trauma to the skull, and examinations of his teeth and specialist radio carbon dating found the man was born before 1950.

Forensic odontologists found he had had specialist dental work at some point in his life and detectives had hoped the highly distinctive nature of the work could have helped identify him.

Believed to be between 5ft 8in and 5ft 11in tall the man had also suffered from arthritis and had an issue with his spine which would have caused “limited mobility”.

But despite repeated appeals, the man has never been identified.
If the information about the clothing is correct, and the clothes belonged to the victim (and why else would the clothing be in a Welsh forest), then Peter Moore can't have been responsible for this murder. It surely can't be a coincidence that the remains were found close to where Moore deposited the body of Edward Carthy. The killer wanting the police to think it was an unknown victim of Peter Moore, if the remains were ever discovered, would seem the most likely explanation.
 
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Circumstances
The skeletal remains of a male were discovered at Clocaenog Forest, near Corwen, Denbighshire. It is believed the body has been at the location for a number of years. He is believed to have been over 54 years of age at the time of his death, most likely in his 60s, and was born before 1950.
Corwen is on the A5 and close to its junction with the A494 which ultimately leads towards Liverpool. The A5 runs from London through the Midlands, north of Birmingham and on to the ferry port to Ireland at Holyhead. Within the UK I'd be looking initially at Birmingham / West Midlands or Liverpool for where he came from.
Dentistry shows work typical of that carried out in the UK between 1980 and 2000, and he suffered from both athritis and an inflammatory joint condition, which affected his back and a number of other joints. This would likely have given him pain and reduced movement. He had previously suffered an injury to his spine, a broken nose and possibly an injury to his left wrist.
Arthritis, inflammatory joint condition affecting his back and other joints, spinal injury - I would be looking for an ex-military guy, possibly a para or at least one with parachute training.
Clothing
underwear - underpants - maroon - plain - Large, classic briefs from Marks and Spencer, 36"-39" waist

jumper - v neck - green - plain - Dark Green, XL Pringle Jumper

Link to his profile - UK Missing Persons Unit
It sounds as though he was starting to get rather porky, which may be a reflection of his health making it difficult to exercise and keep fit.

Pringle knitwear, a well-known premium Scottish brand, is pretty expensive - currently around £300+ ($350+) for a sweater. It could have been a lucky charity shop find or he could have been comfortably off if he bought it new.
 
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Did Roger Evans resemble the facial reconstruction? Has Evans' relatives' DNA been compared with that of the victim? Reports suggest that the police ruled Evans out only because the manufacturing dates of some of the clothing found close to the body were too late and not for any other reason.

 
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Clothing is often removed (often by cutting) prior to disposal of a body because of its evidential value in identifying the deceased. In this case it seems decidedly odd that it would have been removed but then left close by. It could be that the clothing is unrelated to the victim and has either been dumped by an innocent third party or alternatively has been deliberately planted to confound investigations.
 
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Clothing is often removed (often by cutting) prior to disposal of a body because of its evidential value in identifying the deceased. In this case it seems decidedly odd that it would have been removed but then left close by. It could be that the clothing is unrelated to the victim and has either been dumped by an innocent third party or alternatively has been deliberately planted to confound investigations.
It possible, but I don't know who would be dumping a jumper and pants (both XL sizes) at the same place in a forest.
Occam's razor would suggest the clothing belongs to the victim.
MOO.
 

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