UK - Ched Evans for rape of 19yo woman, Rhuddlan, Denbighshire, 2011

  • #61
Review of the evidence

The prosecutor is now going to review the evidence in chronological order, beginning with the evening of Sunday, May 29, 2011.

He said: “The complainant was heavily intoxicated.”

The court heard she arrived at Zu Bar around 2am on Monday, May 30, and stayed for about an hour.

Mr Medland said she was “unsteady” on her feet when she left the club.

The court heard the complainant suspected her drink had been spiked because she was more drunk that she would have expected to be.

The prosecutor said there is no evidence that Evans or Mr McDonald spiked her drink and “no implicit suggestion” that they did.

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  • #62
Intoxication levels reviewed

The prosecutor is now talking about how drunk Evans was in comparison to the alleged victim.

He said: “We suggest it is obvious that the defendant was nowhere near the complainant’s level of intoxication.”

He reminded the jury of the CCTV footage from The Godfather take-away that showed the complainant falling over and Evans walking past her.

Mr Medland said: “He could make sense of that situation, pointing at her and s******ing with his mates.”


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  • #63
Paul Heaney ‏@PaulHeaney67 29s29 seconds ago Colchester, England

Prosecution ask jury to consider why chedevans left hotel room via fire exit, walked 2 miles home with injured leg if 'done nothing wrong'
 
  • #64
Prosecutor alleges 'defendant has not been truthful'

The prosecutor reminded the jury Evans said he wanted to go to the Premier Inn to tell his friend Clayton McDonald another of their friends had been arrested.

Mr Medland suggested if that was really the case, he could have phoned him or sent a text.

He added: “We suggest this defendant went back to the hotel and blagged his way into the room because he wanted to have sex with ‘the bird’ Mr McDonald had got.

“We suggest the defendant has not been truthful with you about this aspect of the case.”


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  • #65
Must consider if witnesses are 'credible, reliable and honest'

The prosecutor said it is likely to be put to the jury by the defence team that the complainant was sober enough to do things such as order food in a take-away.

He added: “You may well feel there is a world of a difference between being able to pick up a pizza box from a pavement and consenting to have sex with a man.”

Mr Medland is now addressing the jury about the two witnesses who gave evidence regarding relationships with the complainant.

He said the jury must consider whether they find the witnesses “credible, reliable and honest".

Prosecutor Simon Medland QC reminded the jury Evans told them he would never harm a girl.

He added: “We suggest he treated her with a callous and self-centred indifference, essentially indistinguishable from utter contempt.

“This defendant could not have cared less whether she wanted sex with him or not.

“This wealthy young footballer felt entitled to have her and did so regardless of what she would have wanted.

“In doing so, we submit this was rape and not consensual sex.”


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  • #66
  • #67
Thanks Alyce ❤

I really, really, REALLY hope the jury find him guilty.

If the only new evidence is that someone she had consensual sex with at another time is NOW saying that she said "f*** me harder" then I'm sorry but I can't believe that that is worthy of a retrial ... some people will say anything for 50 grand and you know what, I'm not religious, swearing on oath, on a Bible means absolutely nothing to me.
If you rigged these 'witnesses' up to a lie detector and the didn't set off sirens when the 50 grand is mentioned then I might just believe it, otherwise I call bull sh it!
 
  • #68
Defence closing speech


Paul Heaney ‏@PaulHeaney67 2m2 minutes ago Colchester, England

Judy Khan QC now summarising the defence case to the jury in #chedevans trial.
 
  • #69
Defence barrister begins closing speech

Defence barrister Judith Khan QC is now giving her closing speech on behalf of defendant Ched Evans.

She said: “I don’t know how you reacted when you discovered you were going to undertake jury service at Cardiff Crown Court.

“Whatever your reaction was, please be assured that by your very presence in this courtroom, you fulfil an essential role in our criminal justice system.

“You bring to this courtroom your independent minds and independents spirits.

“For many centuries now, juries have been trusted by us to decide the most serious and sensitive cases.

“A case doesn’t really get much more sensitive than this one, does it?

“Perhaps all, or certainly some of you, will have heard the name Ched Evans before you stepped into this courtroom. But in reality, he is a stranger to you.”

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  • #70
Thanks Alyce ❤

I really, really, REALLY hope the jury find him guilty.

If the only new evidence is that someone she had consensual sex with at another time is NOW saying that she said "f*** me harder" then I'm sorry but I can't believe that that is worthy of a retrial ... some people will say anything for 50 grand and you know what, I'm not religious, swearing on oath, on a Bible means absolutely nothing to me.
If you rigged these 'witnesses' up to a lie detector and the didn't set off sirens when the 50 grand is mentioned then I might just believe it, otherwise I call bull sh it!


Completely agree. Am amazed that there was no other evidence and find it strange that he was granted his appeal and had his case quashed on the basis of two * friends* of the victim giving this evidence re their sexual encounters.
As you said yesterday, doesn't matter if she was having sex with half of Rhyl, if that was her choice, then fine. CE still imo is guilty of raping her.
 
  • #71
Ms Khan told the jury: “We suggest to you that the prosecution case is built around a myth.

“It has been persistent, spanning five years, but it is utterly unrealistic when you view it against the rest of the evidence in this case.

“The evidence shows that despite her apparent memory blackout, the complainant was capable of making rational decisions.

“Drunken consent is nevertheless consent. While disinhibited through drink, she did consent to sex - first with Clayton McDonadld and then with Ched Evans.

“Lack of memory does not equal lack of consent.”

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  • #72
Someone on twitter has just said Defence Barrister sucking up to the Jury. Have to say, that was my thought when I heard her opening remarks.
 
  • #73
Defence barrister Judith Khan QC reminded the jury the complainant sent a text message to a friend at 2.54am.

She described the text as “coherent, logical and rational”.

Ms Khan suggested the Crown’s case is that the jury can look at the CCTV footage from The Godfather takeaway and see how drunk the woman was in the hotel room.

The defence barrister accepted the woman was drunk in the takeaway, but suggested it was her “impossibly high shoes” that made her fall over.

She added: “Even though she was clearly intoxicated in The Godfather, you may think that was actually the height of her intoxication.

“There is no evidence she had anything else to drink after that and she had eaten.

“How she presented in The Godfather is not necessarily any indication of what she was like in the hotel room.”


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  • #74
Paul Heaney ‏@PaulHeaney67 17m17 minutes ago Colchester, England

#chedevans defence: "She has never said she was raped, not once." & "A lack of memory does not equal a lack of consent."
 
  • #75
The defence barrister reminded the jury the night receptionist said Mr McDonald and the complainant looked like “a normal couple”.

She added: “It is quite wrong to assume that lack of memory equals lack of capacity to consent.

“She was moving around and making rational decisions. Drunk consent is still consent.”

Ms Khan is discussing the taxi journey from the takeaway to the hotel.

She reminded the jury the cab driver told the complainant she had to sit in the front if she wanted to eat.

The defence barrister suggested the fact she moved showed she could understand instructions and make rational decisions.



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  • #76
The defence barrister is now reminding the jury of what night receptionist Gavin Burrough heard outside the door of Room 14.
He told the court he heard “a couple having sex”.

Prosecutors suggested that was the sound of Clayton McDonald having sex with the complainant, but Ms Khan suggested that was “guesswork and speculation”.
She suggested it was the sound of Evans having sex with the woman.

She said: “’A couple having sex.’ That is a two-way process. He did not say he heard a man ‘doing sex to a woman’ as Mr Medland had it in his opening.”
The court previously heard the receptionist heard a male voice say: “Are you going to suck that c*** or what?”

Ms Khan said: “The evidence is he heard that said in a playful way. A playful, normal tone. Not the way it was said by Mr Medland at all.”
She added: “Nothing that Mr Burrough heard caused him to seek to intervene.”

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  • #77
Defence barrister Judith Khan QC suggested the bruises found on the alleged victim’s body were “meaningless”.

She said: “Mr Medland has barely mentioned them.”

Ms Khan added the bruises were consistent with someone falling over and walking into things, which could be expected, as the woman was drunk.

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  • #78
The defence barrister is now addressing the jury about Evans’ police interviews.

Ms Khan pointed out that the only evidence there was sex between the defendant and the complainant came from Evans himself.

She stressed the police had no evidence there had been intercourse between them.

The defence barrister said: “Why would he volunteer that information unless he wanted to help the police? He determined he would tell them the truth.”

She added: “The prosecution tried to make everything this defendant did and said seem as sinister as possible. To the jaundiced eye, everything is yellow.”

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  • #79
The defence barrister said there was “nothing sinister” about what Evans did at the Premier Inn.

She told the jury: “He goes into the room without knocking. He told you, quite candidly, it was immature. Of course it was immature, but that does not make him a rapist.”

Ms Khan is reminding the jury Evans said the woman asked him to perform oral sex on her.

She said: “She had the capacity to make the request. She was capable of making decisions. She was caught up in the moment.

“The defendant performed that act on her - an act that is all about giving pleasure.”

She added: “They had sex in a number of position and she was directing that.

“The prosecution say she would not have done any of these things. How do they know that?

“Whatever the morality, people have casual sex. Sometimes when names aren’t known. Sometimes when other people are present. We all live in the real world.

“It wasn’t particularly moral behaviour - he cheated on his girlfriend that night - but none of that makes him a rapist.

“The fundamental is that he was not raping her.”


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  • #80
12.57


12:57


Break for lunch

The hearing will resume at 2pm.
 

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