UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #22

[Shiressleuth]

Just read the reward has now doubled to 100,000

Yes the article was posted here a few days ago. Colin Davey, the millionaire is putting it up. ( Ex Flex owner and top-the-lot betting company owner.)

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/millionaire-businessman-doubles-reward-find-11699285

so now the reward has doubled to 100k, I can't see it helping IMO ,

Bumping the reward article posted by Scorpio. I remember when we weren't allowed to mention Colin Davey as he wanted to remain anonymous. Probably because it was his nightclub from which C was ejected.

 

[Reallyodd]

As soon as I saw this story on the news, I knew it would get linked to C purely because it happened at Mildenhall :gaah:
Originally Posted by jessie
Corrie was based at Honington not Mildenhall so after more than a year what could be the connnection ??


^^ Exactly. A retaliatory attack would be getting some mates together and giving someone you think is responsible a kicking when you see them on a night out. Anyone who goes up against a military base like this guy did clearly has big issues, though his actions will seem logical to him.

Sorry, I perhaps could have written my post better as I appear to have confused you both somewhat.

I know C is based at Honington and I wasn't connecting him with today's incident at Mildenhall. I was pointing out that in the BBC article it said there was a terrorism conviction in May last year that involved Mildenhall and as that was just a few months before C disappeared I wondered if there could have been someone who wanted revenge on a serviceman.

 

[Antonia]

I think it's strange these apparent sightings were not followed up just because of the phone timings. Corrie may have left the HS almost immediately without his phone. If he got a lift straightaway or a taxi then he could have got to BM earlier.

Yes, it is weird. It'd be a massive and stupid assumption for SP to say that Corrie stayed with his phone, and accept or reject lines of inquiry based on that.

This is one of the things that makes me think something significant is going on behind the scenes, or SP are really, really stupid and just accept everything at face value.

 

[Antonia]

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I think we still have a question mark over Corrie's motivations after leaving the club, getting takeaway. His car was still in BSE. I think he appeared too worse for wear to go out partying, but we don't know for sure whether he had arranged to sleep on a friend's sofa in BSE that night or whether he was just winging the night away. It does make some sense that at that point he just wanted somewhere sheltered to sleep a few more hours until morning and drive home in his own car. If C was going to head off to a friend's for the night, why not amble over there when he woke up in the doorway? Yet he seems to have hung around for a further 20 minutes before going into the horseshoe, which makes me doubt that there was a plan for the rest of the night and he'd just ended up separated from his mates and at a loss for what to do next.

This reminded me about the recent details about Corrie's time in Hughes' doorway, from the video of NU re-tracing C's steps:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/corrie-mckeague-final-steps-route-13667897

About 27 minutes in, NU says that C possibly banged his head, was motionless for two hours, and then woke up and staggered around very confused for 20 minutes. In that 20 mins, someone checked on him twice. I think C's apparent confused/disorientated state must've been a factor in whatever happened next - he probably could easily forget phone or drop it without noticing, but probably could not climb in a 4/5ft high bin (but could be put in it and not be able to get out).

Given all the ifs, buts and maybes, it'd be useful if SP could come up with some definites, like can a mobile ping from inside a bin lorry, how closely do the pings match the bin lorry, do the phone pings match the binman's phone (or any others), etc. If we had all the info SP do, I'm sure we could do better than they are.

Of all the possibilities, I think I hope he's AWOL :/

 

[Antonia]

Missing RAF man: Corrie McKeague's mother says police are investigating murder reports
https://news.sky.com/story/missing-...ice-are-investigating-murder-reports-11176975

If there's any truth in these reports, I trust that SP will be charging themselves with wasting police time.

 

[altojack]

https://news.sky.com/story/missing-...ice-are-investigating-murder-reports-11176975

So now it could be murder

She said she and her supporters had received calls outlining several different scenarios in which her son was attacked and either killed or left for dead. She would not go into detail.



Why do these alledged calls go to N and her supporters instead of to the police? Or is it a case of they do call the police but get ignored?

 

[Amonet]

https://news.sky.com/story/missing-...ice-are-investigating-murder-reports-11176975

So now it could be murder

She said she and her supporters had received calls outlining several different scenarios in which her son was attacked and either killed or left for dead. She would not go into detail.



Why do these alledged calls go to N and her supporters instead of to the police? Or is it a case of they do call the police but get ignored?

"Several different scenarios" is not particularly strong. It stinks of at least one of these scenarios being complete conjecture. How do we know they're not all conjecture based on things people have read in media rather than at least conjecture based on seeing something that night or hearing a confession from someone?

 

[Miss_French]

Missing RAF man: Corrie McKeague's mother says police are investigating murder reports
https://news.sky.com/story/missing-...ice-are-investigating-murder-reports-11176975

If there's any truth in these reports, I trust that SP will be charging themselves with wasting police time.

So now N says, "We don't believe Corrie was ever at the landfill site..."

However, in March C was definitely in landfill.

"The mother of missing serviceman Corrie Mckeague has said it is "just a matter of time" before they find her son's remains at a landfill site. Nicola Urquhart's comments came after it emerged a refuse vehicle, seized shortly after the RAF gunner vanished from Bury St Edmunds, was carrying a heavier load than first thought....Mrs Urquhart said: "We know we are going to find Corrie in the landfill." "

*https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bb.../www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-39200319

Is that like he'd never go AWOL and leave his puppy, but UT appealed for C to get in touch if he was AWOL?

 

[Amonet]

So now N says, "We don't believe Corrie was ever at the landfill site..."

However, in March C was definitely in landfill.

"The mother of missing serviceman Corrie Mckeague has said it is "just a matter of time" before they find her son's remains at a landfill site. Nicola Urquhart's comments came after it emerged a refuse vehicle, seized shortly after the RAF gunner vanished from Bury St Edmunds, was carrying a heavier load than first thought....Mrs Urquhart said: "We know we are going to find Corrie in the landfill." "

*https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bb.../www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-39200319

Is that like he'd never go AWOL and leave his puppy, but UT appealed for C to get in touch if he was AWOL?

She's a desperate mum looking for answers to her son's disappearance. When the police have been confident that C was in the landfill, she's 'borrowed' some of their certainty. Now that certainty has crumbled due to not finding him and her hopes that a landfill is not his final resting place. Another msm article had quoted her as saying that she was relieved over him not being found in the landfill as she could now get rid of the awful images of him being in a landfill.

So I think she's gone back in her mind to the early days where she's sort of hooked into any reasonable theory. N doesn't know any more than the rest of us do, but she has far more of an emotional investment in what did happen to C, and whatever the answer is would give her some 'closure' or maybe someone to focus 'blame' on and see someone come to justice in order to feel that she's really followed it through for Corrie, her child. But she's back to having nothing, no answers, no place to go and lay flowers, nothing to tell her granddaughter about why C isn't there.

 

[FlashyHydra]

Now this is new (from that Sky News article)....
"He was a big climber, it was the sort of thing he often did, especially when he had been drinking and there are several flat roofs he could have reached."

Imo this is something that could have happened since Corrie was a fit soldier. Besides the police hasn't searched all those buildings in HS. It could even be, that he fell and was trapped there somewhere by accident...

 

[altojack]

Now this is new (from that Sky News article)....
"He was a big climber, it was the sort of thing he often did, especially when he had been drinking and there are several flat roofs he could have reached."

Imo this is something that could have happened since Corrie was a fit soldier. Besides the police hasn't searched all those buildings in HS. It could even be, that he fell and was trapped there somewhere by accident...

Right, so you saying he fell and was trapped somewhere, like between two buildings with no way out? That’s a possibility and he wouldnt be calling for help if he was badly injured / unconscious.

 

[FlashyHydra]

Right, so you saying he fell and was trapped somewhere, like between two buildings with no way out? That’s a possibility and he wouldnt be calling for help if he was badly injured / unconscious.

... could even be a deadly fall at once, who knows...

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Right, so you saying he fell and was trapped somewhere, like between two buildings with no way out? That’s a possibility and he wouldnt be calling for help if he was badly injured / unconscious.

Actually this is not impossible. There certainly have been cases of precisely this happening,or at least people being trapped in chimneys, both in the UK and the US. In the right circumstances he could have suffocated within minutes.

I know we were told that all of the buildings around the horseshoe, including roofs, were searched very early on, but how thorough really was that search? Given what else we've seen contradicted and backtracked on over the past 15 months, how much faith are we prepared to put in that early police activity?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Murder and Parkour. We have discussed the second one but the first? :scared:

 

[Taskforce88]

Yes, it is weird. It'd be a massive and stupid assumption for SP to say that Corrie stayed with his phone, and accept or reject lines of inquiry based on that.

This is one of the things that makes me think something significant is going on behind the scenes, or SP are really, really stupid and just accept everything at face value.

The phone is a big issue for me. He could easily have lost it or dropped it, especially if he was as drunk as they say he was. In the CCTV footage you can see he drops something as he staggers up the road, nearly barging into the two people standing on the corner. Maybe he dropped it, smashed it and in his drunken state binned it himself.

 

[Taskforce88]

The police haven't searched all the building in HS?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Oh god, imagine if he's still up on the rooftops somewhere. Occam's Razor - he was seen going in but not coming out. Imagine!

 

[FlashyHydra]

Murder and Parkour. We have discussed the second one but the first? :scared:

Well, it's kinda touchy subject since Corrie was a part of the military personnel. They have their honour code you see.

 

[Happymoon]

Oh god, imagine if he's still up on the rooftops somewhere. Occam's Razor - he was seen going in but not coming out. Imagine!

That would be the most awful outcome, especially for his poor family


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