GUILTY UK - Det. Leanne McKie, 39, found dead in Cheshire lake, 28 Sept 2017

  • #81
I can't work out what his defence will be other than deny, deny, deny. But this makes me think there's a possibility he'll try to introduce a third party:

Was wondering what the defence angle would be myself and if he is going to testify at all.

He could refuse and just allow his lawyers to pick holes in the prosecution case and leave reasonable doubt to try to sway the jury.If I was on the jury, I'd wonder why he is silent about the murder of his own wife.

If he does testify, I guess the middle-ground is claiming his wife left the house on her own or that he didn't see his wife at all after leaving work. However DM needs to give a plausible explanation about his whereabouts and happenings from his expected arrival at home at 12:00 to 13:00 when the surveyor saw him turn up on foot.The neighbour that saw LM's car leave the house around 12:45 said they didn't see who was driving, he would say LM was driving and had walked out after an argument or that she had gone before he arrived.

He does still need to explain her blood on his shoe, disposing of his shoes, matching soil samples, being seen twice walking from the direction of the lake where LM was later found and his evasive behaviour with the police and the financial events of the day - however none of them prove murder, they are just circumstantial so maybe DM will argue that point.

For the third party defence angle, I wondered if DM would use LM's work as a detective as an argument to say that she could have been killed by somebody she investigated in the course of her work who she willingly met that day? This could sow doubt, but without some solid evidence of that I'm not sure it would hold much weight in court?
 
  • #82
DAY SEVEN - START
Trial resumes

The jury is back in court two and the trial has resumed.

Darren McKie sits in the glass fronted dock and takes notes as the judge deals with a question from the jury.

They ask about the soil samples taken from the defendant’s trainers which the court heard on Friday was linked by an expert to soil samples takes from the spot at Poynton Lake where the body was found.

The question from the jury asks whether the same tests were carried out on any soil taken from the footwell of Leanne McKie’s Mini Countryman and from it’s tyres.

The judge, Mr Justice Spencer, tells the jury the only work done in connection with the soil is what they had already heard about during the trial.

He reminds the jurors of evidence heard on Friday about samples of soil taken from Poynton Lake and also the garden of the family home in Burford Close.

The prosecution say Insp McKie used his wife’s car to move her body and dump it face down in the water at Poynton Lake.

The trial has also heard that Mr McKie’s trainers were found in a bin about 100 yards from the family home.

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  • #83
10:53
Leanne McKie’s iPhone found at different location

The first witness is Detetive Constable Emily Cole, who the jurors are told examined CCTV and telephone data for the investigation.

The court hears that Leanne McKie’s iPhone was face down in a wooded area near the Paddock Hill Lane area of Mobberley on September 29 last year, the day her body was found.

The prosecution say the defendant may have may have considered dumping his wife’s body at a pond near Paddock Hill Lane in Mobberley.

Prosecutor Nigel Power QC has previously told the jury this may have been ‘his first choice of dumping ground’ for his wife but that in September last there was no water in a pond there.


11:27

Defendant’s phones were found at family home

The court hears that an iPhone 7 belonging to the defendant was found on the island on the kitchen of the family home in Wilmslow.

His GMP phone, a Samsung Galaxy, was found in the defendant’s rucksack in the hallway cupboard of the family home on September 29, the court hears.

Inside the phone’s cover was a note with a number for Fluent Finance, the defendant’s gmail address and a number for the phone itself, the jurors are told.

The prosecution say that the defendant applied for £54,000 loan from Fluent Finance behind his wife’s back.

Leanne McKie is said to have sent an angry text to her husband when she found out on September 28, the day she died.

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  • #84
11:41
Joint account overdrawn

The court is told that Leane McKie sent her husband a message on August 23 last year to say she had just received an alert from HSBC to say their joint current account was overdrawn.

The jury was told Insp McKie replied: “Me too. I must have miscalculated with all I have been paying out. I will transfer some money from the savings.”

Mrs McKie is then said to have replied: “It’s OK... just worried we have been got.”


11:44
Leanne McKie asked defendant to transfer money

The following day, on August 24, Leanne McKie is said to have sent a message to ‘Boo’, which the jurors were told was a pet name she used for her husband, and asked him to transfer some money.

The court is told Insp McKie replied: “Bloody bank. Checked last night and again this morning. All fine. Will ring. Sometimes happens. Glitches in the system. Don’t need the extra stress. Off to HQ... you all ok?”

On the days around the times of the messages, the jurors hear that the HSBC account was between £4,000 and £5,000 overdrawn.

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  • #85
12:36
Series of messages exchanged between McKies read out to court


The jurors hear about a series of a series of messages exchanged by the McKies following the sale of their home at The Circuit in Wilmslow in 2016.

In one message Leanne McKie is said to have told her husband, ‘you always blame me’ and adding she was ‘gutted’ that they were moving for a fourth bedroom which they weren’t going to get.

She described herself as ‘fed up’ in one message, the jurors are told.

In a reply, the jurors are told Insp McKie said: “You hate me. It’s obvious from the way you speak to me.”

Mrs McKie sent another message which the court hears said: “I don’t hate you at all. I love you but I’m fed up... I just feel like I’m arranging everything again with the kids, mum and dad and Christmas and then I have to ask you if you have done something. I know you have got a lot on with work.”


13:10
“I feel you think everything is my fault. It’s obvious in my head”

Insp McKie is said to have sent his wife a message saying: “I’m sorry. It’s obviously me misconstruing everything you say.”

The defendant is said to have added ‘just gutted’ and ‘I knew it wouldn’t last’.

Leanne McKie later sends a text to her husband which says ‘I’m afraid to ask you’,the jurors are told.

“I feel you think everything is my fault. It’s obvious in my head,”Insp McKie is said to responded.

Leanne McKie, in another message, told her husband he would tell her to ‘stop nagging’ when she asked questions, the jurors are told.”

I’m sitting here in tears. Fed up with everything,” Mrs McKie is said to have messaged her husband.


13:26
Leanne McKie in text message: "I feel like I do everything for everyone"

In a later message to her husband, the court hears Leanne McKie said her husband said she was ‘nagging’ or a ‘control freak’.

She is said to have written: “I feel like I do everything for everyone and nobody does anything for me. There. I have said it. I’m sure you feel differently to the way I feel.”


13:52
Insp McKie told wife he had not applied for loan

The jurors are told that an application for a loan from AA Loans was turned down August 31 last year and that when Leanne McKie’s found out about the application she questioned her husband about it in another message.

“I haven’t applied for anything. What are you on about?” Insp McKie is said to have replied.

Leanne McKie, referring to two letters from AA saying the request had been turned down, is said to have sent another message to her husband: “You sure? I will phone them if not. xx”.

The jurors are told that while she was on hold during a call to AA she messaged her husband again, saying: “I’m going through to fraud. You are honest aren’t you?”

Insp McKie is said to have replied: “Yes, of course, I’m worried.... somebody has my details.”

The jurors are told that the application was treated by the loan company as a potential fraud.

“Very strange,” Leanne McKie is said to have said in a message to her husband.


13:53
“Are we in a mess? Please tell me” - Text Mrs McKie sent to husband

Leanne McKie messaged her husband saying ‘you are telling me truth?’ and searched the internet search history of her iPhone, which was connected to her husband’s device and search history, the jurors are told.

She is said to have found a search for the loan company concerned, the court is told.

She is then said to have messaged her husband again asking: “Are we in a mess? Please tell me.”

The defendant replied with a single question mark and later urged his wife to ‘please stop doubting me’, the court hears.

Leanne McKie, the jurors are told, replied: “I just worry you are trying to protect us again. Please don’t ever do that. The search wouldn’t be there now. Couldn’t sleep, worring about it all night.”

But the jury hears that Insp McKie replied: “There’s nothing to worry about.”

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  • #86
14:27
Insp McKie 'messaged his wife asking for her log-on and password'

The court is told that at 7.39am on September 18 a six-page application form to another loan company, Optimum Credit, which had the ‘purported signatures of Leanne McKie and Darren McKie’, was scanned in a Stretford police station where Insp McKie worked and was emailed to his own email address.

Almost 30 minutes later, the jurors hear that Insp McKie message his wife asking for her log-on and password.

“Need to reply chief con curry night. Deleted mine by mistake,” Insp McKie is said to have texted her.

Nigel Power QC, for the Crown, tells the jury that the defendant had appeared to have turned down the invitation some time prior to his request to his wife.

Leanne McKie provided the password and log on to her husband in another message, the jurors are told, and later the defendant is said to have scanned in his wife’s payslip and emailed it to himself.


14:28
Builder contacted Leanne McKie 'over money owed for work'

The jury is told that the builder who was renovating the family home contacted Leanne McKie on September 22 and said he had not been able to reach her husband about what was still owed for the work.

On September 25, the court is told that the builder sent a message to Insp McKie to tell him that £4,291 was still due.

The message was sent on the day Insp McKie had asked his wife for her work log-on and password, the jurors are told.


15:01
Clothing found in washing machine by police after body found at lake

The jurors are told about the clothing, including Insp McKie’s police uniform, a police officer found spinning in the washing machine of the family home in Wilmslow when he went to the property during the early hours of September 29 following the discovery of the body at Poynton Lake.

Tommy Hilfiger jeans and polo short, a North Face jacket, a police issue top and dark trousers and socks were found in the washing which was stopped by the officer mid-cycle, the jurors have been told.


15:07
Witness cross-examined over uniform

Under cross-examination Trevor Burke QC asks DC Cole:
Did your enquiries reveal that but for the events that followed that Darren McKie was on duty again at eight o’clock the following morning?​

DC Cole answered:
I believe he was, yes.​

The witness told the court that she didn’t know whether the uniform found in the wash was Insp McKie’s only uniform although later she recalled there had been ‘additional uniform’.


15:22
Police officer of similar size to Leanne McKie asked to climb into boot of Mini

DC Cole, prosecutor Nigel Power QC told the jurors, was the ‘unfortunate’ officer who had similar weight and dimensions to Leanne McKie chosen to climb into the boot of a Mini Countryman similar to the one said to have been used to dump the body at Poynton Lake.

The jury has previously heard that Leanne McKie was just over 5ft 2in tall and weighed 53 kilos or eight stone.

DC Cole told the court she was an inch taller and weighed 56 kilos.

The jurors were shown a picture of DC Cole in the boot of the car.

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[It's looking like the loan applications were fraudulent.

And I can't see the police being ok with sharing login details, married or not.]
 
  • #87
  • #88
thank you all for the updates and insights.
 
  • #89
It's looking like the loan applications were fraudulent. And I can't see the police being ok with sharing login details, married or not.]

Yes, appears to be out of control at this stage. The level of deceit is unbelievable as a policeman and husband, it was all going to unravel at some point soon.

Unlike previous near misses,I guess DM wouldn't be able to talk himself out of this one. This was big enough to end the marriage. The whole situation would be impossible to keep this under wraps if they split up. Family, friends and colleagues would all soon find out about the financial issue or even the fraud, a lot at stake, marriage, children, house and career.

But I'm unsure as to whether the accused had any foresight (even fleeting) that murder would make all those problems go away or whether in a heated argument the accused lost control in a rage.
 
  • #90
11:46 DAY EIGHT
Insp McKie 'exercised his right to silence'

The trial has resumed and the jurors are hearing about the police interviews of Darren McKie after his arrest on suspicion of murder.

The court hears the defendant was interviewed on five occasions, the first time on September 29 and then on September 30.

He is said to have exercised his right to silence during the September 30 interview.The jurors hear he was interviewed a second time on September 30 when he handed police a prepared statement.

He was interviewed again on October 1 when he gave officers a second prepared statement and afterwards exercised his right to silence, the court is told.His final interview took place on October 2 when he gave police a third prepared statement and afterwards largely exercised his right to silence, the jurors are told.


11:47
'What can you tell me about the death of your wife?'

An audio recording of Insp McKie’s first police interview, which lasted 1hr and 40mins, is being played to the jury.

At the start of the interview, the interviewer Detective Constable Kevin Lee asked the suspect: “What can you tell me about the death of your wife?”

Insp McKie replied: “Nothing, nothing. Until officers arrived at the house this morning, I didn’t know she was dead.”


11:48
Insp McKie repeats that he did not know what happened to her

​Insp McKie repeated to the interviewer that he didn’t know what had happened to his wife and did not know the circumstances of her death.

The defendant, asked about his movements the day before his wife was found dead at Poynton Lake, said he had arrived for work at Stretford police station shortly before 7am. He said he arrived back at home at about 12.30pm or 1pm to show a surveyor, who was valuing the family property, around the home. The surveyor left and he spent the afternoon picking up his children, Insp McKie told the interviewing officer.

During the evening, he said he became concerned his wife, who was working a 3pm to 11pm shift at GMP, had not contacted him. “I was getting worried now. It was unusual,” Insp McKie said during the interview.


11:49
'I was panicking then'

Insp Mckie said midnight ‘came and went’ and added: “I was panicking then.” “I just thought I would go and look for her,” he said. He told the interviewer he had had some wine and so he could not drive. He described how he walked to the roundabout and past the high school but ‘didn’t see anything’. He said he ‘carried on walking’ and later turned around and walked back home. Insp McKie admitted he ‘panicked’ when he saw police officers on his return as he had ‘three kids at home’.


12:06
Insp McKie said he took off his trainers because they were 'rubbing'

Insp McKie described how the officers who stopped him asked him what he was doing but was able to continue on his way home.

He said his heel was ‘rubbing’ and he removed his trainers.

“I don’t know why. I threw them in the bin. I was frustrated with myself and the situation,” he said during the interview.

The officer described being stopped by police a second time that night when they saw him walking along Moor Lane in Wilmslow without shoes on.

Insp McKie said he had been ‘frustrated’ and was ‘annoyed with myself’.

He described being driven home by the police officers and feeling ‘scared’.He said his ‘heart was racing’ because of what he had done and the fact his wife was missing.


12:07
He said he 'went to check if knock on door was his wife'

Insp McKie described going to bed later in the evening.

“I went to bed and fell asleep and at some point I was aware of banging on the door,” he said.

He said he went to check whether it was his wife but realised it was police officers.

“Their attitude was different that time,” said Insp McKie.

The trial has previously heard how Leanne McKie’s body was found face down in Poynton Lake at about 3.35am on September 29 and that the officers who had twice stopped Insp McKie then returned to his home.

“I was asking them what was going on and they weren’t replying or telling me,” Insp McKie said during his police interview.

Later he said: “It didn’t really register when they arrested me for murder.”


12:09
'The move to Burford Close had been stressful'

Insp McKie told the interviewers he had been a police officer for 13 years and was an inspector based at Stretford police station.

He described two meetings he attended after he arrived at work on September 28 and told the interviewers that ‘nothing major happened’ at work that day.

He said he received a few texts from his wife and also had a few missed calls from her.

Insp McKie described how their home on Burford Close in Wilmslow had been purchased in February of last year.

The family had been living in a rented property nearby and the move to Burford Close had been ‘stressful’, admitted Insp McKie.


12:10
Insp McKie says he sent his wife a text at 4.30pm

Insp McKie said ‘people knew’ he was leaving work early on September 28 and that his boss was ‘quite flexible’.

He said nobody else was in the family home when he arrived and he recalled sending his wife a text at 4.30pm saying ‘what’s going on?’

He confirmed his wife, who worked part-time at GMP, would leave for work at 2pm to begin her shift at at 3pm.

“It has happened before but it was unusual not to get a text,” Insp McKie told the interviewing officers.

Insp McKie admitted he had drunk some red wine but said he was in charge of all his faculties.

Asked how much he drank generally, he replied: “I probably drink more than the doctor says I should drink but moving house was quite stressful.”


12:11
Insp McKie is asked why he went to look for his wife

Asked why had gone out to look for his wife, Insp McKie said: “I was worried. I just decided to be proactive and do something.”


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  • #91
Quick map from Poynton Lake to the home on Burford close. It's a 7 mile, >2hr walk.

The 2 locations where DM was stopped by police look to be on the most direct route - Adlington Rd at 1.30am & Moor Ln at 2.15am.

Locations are approximate.

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12:47
In a second police interview Insp McKie answered 'no comment'

In a second police interview carried out the same day, this time lasting just 22 minutes, Insp McKie answered ‘no comment’ to questions put to him and he also declined to mark out on a map the route he said he had taken from his home to the A34, the court is told.

Insp McKie told officers in his previous interview he had left home to look for his wife.


13:15
“I do not know how my wife met her death.”

Ahead of a later interview on September 30, Insp McKie was handed a pre-interview briefing document which outlined the areas to be covered during the interview, the jurors were told.

It included that the post mortem examination had concluded that his wife had died of strangulation/asphyxiation and that her body had been found floating by the edge of the water at Poynton Lake.

The document referred to Leanne McKie’s Mini Countryman car being found in Tern Drive in Poynton and that her iPhone had been found near Paddock Hill Lane.

It said Insp McKie would be shown pictures of the trainers found in the bin and that he would be asked questions about his financial circumstances and three ‘hits’ his wife’s Mini Countryman is said to have made on ANPR cameras near Mobberley, Poynton and Wilmslow.

Insp McKie answered ‘no comment’ to most of the questions put to him in the interview but provided a prepared statement in which he said: “I do not know how my wife met her death.”


13:17
Insp McKie said he didn't even know Poynton had a lake

In the prepared statement, Insp McKie said he had never been to Poynton Lake ‘to the best of my knowledge’ and that he didn’t know it had a lake.

He said he didn’t know Tern Drive and did not know Poynton at all.

The family’s debt was ‘solely in relation to the house’ and they were were in the processing of ‘consolidating’ their debt, he said in the statement.

He said both his and Leanne’s cars were purchased with finance agreements and that no mortgage they had ever had on any house had ever been in arrears.

Insp McKie said they had no life assurance policies, that he earned £51,000 per year and his wife, who worked part-time, brought in £16,500 every year.

He said he could not account for the ‘hits’ his wife’s car made on ANPR cameras.

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  • #93
He said both his and Leanne’s cars were purchased with finance agreements and that no mortgage they had ever had on any house had ever been in arrears.


No doubt due to the many loans. (Borrow from Peter to pay Paul?)

Much catching up to do - thank you for the updates and insights LB much appreciated.
(Broken leg, hospital etc for me so annoyingly I am rather behind now :()
 
  • #94
Get well soon, Jessie.
 
  • #95
14:56
Prepared statement from Inspector Mckie is read to the court

The jurors hear about a second prepared statement which was handed to the interviewing officers on October 1 last year.

Insp McKie said in this statement:

I would describe Leanne as someone who would have irrational worries. By this I mean she would worry about a minor thing disproportionately or where there was no need to worry.

I would describe her as someone who would fly off the handle easily and regularly.

I have learnt over 13 years of marriage that the best way of dealing with this is just to ignore her and let her burn herself out.

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  • #96
15:19
Leanne McKie 'wasn't aware of loan until day she was allegedly killed'

Insp McKie said he was in a meeting at Stretford police station when his wife sent him an angry text accusing him of being a ‘liar’ over a £54,000 loan application.

The prosecution say Leanne McKie wasn’t aware of the application until - on the day she was allegedly killed - she received a parcel returning the couple’s passports which had been used to make the application.

In his prepared statement, Insp McKie went on:

I don’t know why she said ‘liar’. I was in a meeting when I got the texts so I could not respond. I think she then tried to call me several times. I was in a meeting and although I could have answered I chose not to as I knew exactly what she would be like and I have learned to ignore her when she was in one of her moods.

I know that her seeing the passports and the loan application in black and white would be her having to deal with the debt head-on and would result in her behaviour as I have described as it meant she could not put it out of her mind.


15:22
Inspector McKie: 'I do not recall any contact with her after that text'

The jurors hear that Insp McKie continued in his prepared statement:

I came out of the meeting and I recall sending her a text ‘I’m coming home now’ by which I meant she could leave the house before I got back if she wanted.

She replied ‘I’m scared now’ or something similar which I took to mean that she was worried about the debt and was not suggesting she was scared of me.

I do not recall any contact with her after that text.

The only thing I wish to add is that in the past when we have rowed and she had flown off the handle, she just said to me ‘you do the right thing in leaving me alone’.


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  • #97
  • #98
14:56
Prepared statement from Inspector Mckie is read to the court

The jurors hear about a second prepared statement which was handed to the interviewing officers on October 1 last year.

Insp McKie said in this statement:
I would describe Leanne as someone who would have irrational worries. By this I mean she would worry about a minor thing disproportionately or where there was no need to worry.

I would describe her as someone who would fly off the handle easily and regularly.

I have learnt over 13 years of marriage that the best way of dealing with this is just to ignore her and let her burn herself out.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-news/darren-mckie-murder-wife-trial-14368526

What a charmer. I don't think finding out about the loan application was an irrational worry! Thanks for posting all the updates :)
 
  • #99
Quick map from Poynton Lake to the home on Burford close. It's a 7 mile, >2hr walk.

The 2 locations where DM was stopped by police look to be on the most direct route - Adlington Rd at 1.30am & Moor Ln at 2.15am.

Thanks LB

I had a look at where the Mini was found on Tern Drive, on a short road on the direct route that you plotted, about 1.6 miles from the lake.

I wonder why the mini wasn't left at the lake, it shaved 1.5 miles off the walk home but it wasn't really hidden, it would be visible from the main road and was found the same morning.
 
  • #100
Thanks LB

I had a look at where the Mini was found on Tern Drive, on a short road on the direct route that you plotted, about 1.6 miles from the lake.

I wonder why the mini wasn't left at the lake, it shaved 1.5 miles off the walk home but it wasn't really hidden, it would be visible from the main road and was found the same morning.
Yeah, not sure what he was thinking parking there. It doesn't make much sense at the moment.
 

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