Beachdreams
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"I had to lie in relation to Helen Bailey" Does this mean that IS is still holding on to the Nick and Joe story?
It certainly looks that way! Bizarre!
"I had to lie in relation to Helen Bailey" Does this mean that IS is still holding on to the Nick and Joe story?
I can post them up
Stuart Trimmer QC, prosecuting, told the defendant: “You had Diane Stewart cremated so there would be very little that could come back and bite you.”
Stewart, being cross-examined at Huntingdon Crown Court, replied: “The cremation was a joint decision with the boys and if I was thinking that way I wouldn’t have agreed to keep the brain and heart.”
Mr Trimmer said: “Is it not very surprising that both Helen Bailey and Diane Stewart are individuals whose death was caused by a similar mechanism in the view of the professionals?
Only some of the professionals,” Stewart replied.
The prosecutor suggested Stewart was “a man capable of extreme and callous violence”.
Stewart replied: “No.”
Ian Stewart had wife cremated to destroy evidence, murder trial hears
"Mr Trimmer said: “Is it not very surprising that both Helen Bailey and Diane Stewart are individuals whose death was caused by a similar mechanism in the view of the professionals?
Only some of the professionals,” Stewart replied."
I would like to read how Mr Trimmer dealt with this. I am not aware of any professional who disputes the cause of death, but I have possibly missed something, or perhaps we haven't had everything reported as fully as in the first trial? Neither am I aware that the defence team has adduced any evidence to support what IS is saying here?
"Mr Trimmer said: “Is it not very surprising that both Helen Bailey and Diane Stewart are individuals whose death was caused by a similar mechanism in the view of the professionals?
Only some of the professionals,” Stewart replied."
I would like to read how Mr Trimmer dealt with this. I am not aware of any professional who disputes the cause of death, but I have possibly missed something, or perhaps we haven't had everything reported as fully as in the first trial? Neither am I aware that the defence team has adduced any evidence to support what IS is saying here?
From the limited reporting, it looks as though Prosecution finished on Monday and Defence, so far, seem to have only called IS over Tuesday and today. I suppose they may plan to call their own expert medical witness and if so, then presumably IS would have advance knowledge of what is going to be said.
Other than that, I would say it is just IS being his usual arrogant self.
Even though he also said there was no positive evidence that Diane had an epileptic fit,could that throw doubt on the general consensus?
He doesn't say he's already attempted CPR for about 20 minutes. Plus he says he "just found her" . Plus he was counting too fast even for the two chest compressions every second - which makes it sound as if he was just counting very fast and not actually doing any compressions. Two compressions per second would be very fast, let alone going faster than that.
999: I'll tell you when to stop, sir, it's 600 times.
(IS continues counting from one to four).
999: Slow down sir, it's one, two, three, four.
[...]
999: You keep going, I'll tell you when it's 600 times, OK?
(IS continues counting from one to four).
999: Keep going, sir.
(IS continues counting from one to four, counting quicker as time goes by)
999: It's one, two, three, four.
IS: Sorry.
One bit of the cross-examination I'd like to know more about is IS's reply to Mr Trimmer that he agreed Diane's cremation with his sons and wouldn't have consented to the brain and heart (I didn't remember about the heart?) being retained if he'd had evil motives. But would his consent have been sought if, as we know, she had explicitly asked for them to be retained for research purposes?
I think he's a coward and thought he would raise suspicion by saying no to organ donation to medical research. I don't suppose he thought they would be able to tell how Diane died, particularly given the findings at the inquest. What I noticed is that he said he agreed, not that he made the offer, and so I don't think he dared challenge Diane's wishes and draw more attention to himself.One bit of the cross-examination I'd like to know more about is IS's reply to Mr Trimmer that he agreed Diane's cremation with his sons and wouldn't have consented to the brain and heart (I didn't remember about the heart?) being retained if he'd had evil motives. But would his consent have been sought if, as we know, she had explicitly asked for them to be retained for research purposes?
One bit of the cross-examination I'd like to know more about is IS's reply to Mr Trimmer that he agreed Diane's cremation with his sons and wouldn't have consented to the brain and heart (I didn't remember about the heart?) being retained if he'd had evil motives. But would his consent have been sought if, as we know, she had explicitly asked for them to be retained for research purposes?
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