UK - Ellie Lawrenson, 5, mauled to death by pit bull, Merseyside, 1 Jan 2007

  • #41
This makes me physically ill. 72 bites!!

WHY do you feel the need to defend these dogs when we certainly don't defend PEOPLE who savagely turn on children? IF their parents had raised them in kind and loving atmospheres...maybe they would not have killed or molested children. IF they had nurturing backgrounds, they may not have done these dispicable acts. So this means we should say the perp isn't responsible, but the caretaker/parent was? We can't prevent the human predator from killing our children and adults...but we CAN prevent the canine predator by banning them from being considered "pets".

It doesn't matter who raised them when the end result is the death of an innocent person or child...does it?

Are you really crediting DOGS with the same level of accountability as GROWN UP HUMAN BEINGS???
 
  • #42
Are you really crediting DOGS with the same level of accountability as GROWN UP HUMAN BEINGS???

Well my pit bull is sitting here looking at the computer with me, he is learning to read.:p
 
  • #43
Well my pit bull is sitting here looking at the computer with me, he is learning to read.:p


Is he helping you with the big words?
 
  • #44
  • #45
Let us all remember that as grown up adults, we can choose not to behave like children. I'd hate to have to lock a thread.
 
  • #46
No I'm helping him but he is a fast learner.

I think all dogs are....pity some learn the wrong things.....:)

Mine is a VERY slow learner.....I think he thinks he signs the checks for this place!!!
 
  • #47
My comment was meant to make people think on a different level about defending anything or anyone who kill with the savagery shown by pit bulls.

People just don't get it! (Or won't...until it happens to them personally! Sad to say.)
 
  • #48
My comment was meant to make people think on a different level about defending anything or anyone who kill with the savagery shown by pit bulls.

People just don't get it! (Or won't...until it happens to them personally! Sad to say.)

I think you made some very good points and I agree with you 100%.
 
  • #49
In the article I read that the grandma was crouching down in the kitchen crying? Was that what she was doing when this crazed animal was killing her grandchild? I can't believe she didnt take a butcher knife and slaughter that stupid beast!!!! I am sorry but there is NOTHING more important then human life and esp. that of your very own family! She will never forgive herself for letting that happen to her granddaughter and that will probably be the worst kind of suffering! :banghead:
 
  • #50
Exactly, a knife wound would have eventually stopped the dog or at least slowed it a little if the attack did last 20/25 minutes as she says. Found this article also. Disturbing description of the home the attack took place in after the attack btw;




THE gran of Ellie Lawrenson today admitted in court she was responsible for the five-year-old’s death after the youngster was fatally mauled by the family pet.

Jacqueline Simpson was baby-sitting Ellie in the early hours of New Year’s Day when she let pit bull terrier Reuben into her house in St Helens, Merseyside.
The powerfully-built dog shook the nursery school pupil for 20 minutes, inflicting 72 injuries on her body, Liverpool Crown Court has heard.
Asked in court today if she accepted responsibility, Simpson, 45, said: “Yes, because I let the dog in.
“If things had gone the way they should have that day I wouldn’t have had the kids anyway.
“I opened the door and it’s my fault.
“I never thought the dog would do anything to Ellie.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007410532,00.html

POST EDITED BY ADMIN DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
 
  • #51
My comment was meant to make people think on a different level about defending anything or anyone who kill with the savagery shown by pit bulls.

People just don't get it! (Or won't...until it happens to them personally! Sad to say.)

You can try to help people think otherwise, but not "make them" ... especially when doing it in an insulting manner.
 
  • #52
ok now i understand why she did not think to grab a knife. the poor blue haired granny i was picturing in my mind is a drunk, drug addict. we shouldn't ask why she did not grab a knife but why she did not break a beer bottle and go after the dog...
 
  • #53
  • #54
Seems as though it was known that this dog was not a good one.
I have to ask why the mother would even let her daughter anywhere in the vicinty of this dog:
>>Ellie's mother Lindsey, 25, said the pit bull was "jealous" of Ellie and hated her.<<

If I had that thought, there is no way I would even chance my child being nearby.

I think they should have charged the granny with something lesser because then she would have been convicted.
 

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