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It appears to have gone in about two years. She was sixteen? When they first recruited her turning seventeen soon I believe? She departed two years later from the situation when she was 19 in 2002 for sure. I think leaving is actually difficult.Until now, I thought that Giuffre and Andrew met long before she was able to escape Epstein's alleged coercive control. I am surprised that, at the same time that Giuffre claims to be acting without free will, she was recruiting children for Epstein as part of a paid pyramid scheme. Eighteen months later, while on a paid study-vacation in Thailand, she parted ways with Epstein by simply telling him that she was moving on. His only response was to wish her a good life.
For some reason, I thought the events of 18 months occurred over several years - in part because documentation about coercive control and trafficking suggests that leaving those associations is extremely difficult.
This entire sordid affair smacks of "Divine Rights of Royalty". And the excesses of royal behavior that has gone on for centuries. Prince Andrew (or do we call him Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew?).
Anyway, that is what has always bothered me about the concept of "royalty". They belive they are born royal, therefore they are better than anyone else. And "above the law", which is what started the "Magna Carta" with King John. Too bad Prince Andrew never read up on royal history.
I don’t believe Andrew MW is obliged to respond to anything/anyone in America.
RSBM
A shame the books couldn't be donated. Pity for the illustrator too."Sarah Ferguson's new children's book
'will be PULPED'
after former Duchess was stripped of her title alongside shamed ex-husband Andrew.
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Publishing sources said
that 10,000 copies of 'Flora and Fern: Kindness Along The Way'
are 'being sent to the recycling centre'."
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Sarah Ferguson's new children's book to be 'PULPED' after title strip
Publishing sources have told the Daily Mail that 10,000 copies of 'Flora and Fern: Kindness Along The Way' are 'being sent to the recycling centre'.www.dailymail.co.uk
A shame the books couldn't be donated. Pity for the illustrator too.
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Sophie and Prince Edward wrap up warm to enjoy a day at the races
Prince Edward , 61, and his wife Sophie, 60, stepped out at Newbury Racecourse this morning to officially reopen the Royal Box as the day's races got underway.www.dailymail.co.uk
Another Peppercorn Prince.
Kensington Palace is also full of non paying residents. Mostly relatives.
I don't think the media is trying to bring the monarchy down.My opinion.
I think when your Mother is the Queen, you don’t pay for a lot of things.
It’s just a given.
Now that Big Brother is King, these ‘deals’ would still apply if only Andrew had not been hiding a lot of information/was not involved with undesirables.
I hope the media does not try to bring down the Monarchy but they seem to be working on it.
MOO
ETA: my opinionI agree that consent is not relevant in cases of rape.
Didn't I see that he is still a Vice Admiral? Very fitting.![]()
Shamed Andrew is formally stripped of his last remaining royal titles
The former Duke of York has had his membership of the Order of the Garter cancelled by King Charles III. Andrew's Knight of the Grand Cross of the Royal Victoria Order has also been annulled.www.dailymail.co.uk
Andrew is now...gasp...a "Commoner". His brother, King Charles has stripped every single title!