• #401
IMO!!!!

This seems to be arrogance/lack of accountability
and the result of "stress free" upbringing.
Permissive parenting.

King Charles seemed to have been raised differently
- with rules, clear boundaries, and discipline.
Taught good manners/etiquette
and how to show respect to others.

It seems evident IMO.
The character is formed during childhood.

There is a saying in my country:

"If you weren't taught values at home,
Strangers will teach you
- in a hard way."

JMO
Of course the upbringing of Charles, and Anne, was different from that of Andrew (and Edward) as the age gap is 12, and 10, years between the older two and Andrew. The opinion of how to bring up children shifted a lot from the 1950s to the 1970s, when Andrew was a teenager. I would think you would find the same kind of differences between siblings born with an age gap of ten years or more, especially if the older ones was born shortly after WW2. As for the children of Queen Elizabeth, I would guess that much of their upbringing was done by nannies, and others, and not so much a 'hands-on' by their parents. I would guess that those who did the 'day-to-day parenting' of the two set of children (C&A vs. A&E) belonged to different generations, and had different ideas how children was to be treated.
As for Edward, I think that Charles might have had more of an influence on him, as Charles was 16 when Edward were born, and they seem to have more in common.
 
  • #402
Albanese's letter reads: "Dear Prime Minister Starmer, in light of recent events concerning Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, I am writing to confirm that my government would agree to any proposal to remove him from the line of royal succession.
"I agree with His Majesty that the law must now take its full course and there must be a full, fair and proper investigation.
"These are grave allegations and Australians take them seriously."
Australia is still recovering from a messy Referendum. It for unsuccessful for the Government, and divisive within the community. There is little political appetite for another Referendum, which would be needed to change our head of state. (Currently the King)

The allegations are really sordid. The idea that others were aware of Andrew's conduct and protected him from the consequences, is what we would all cynically suspect, in our darkest mood, but it's shattering to learn just how widespread this seems.
 
  • #403
As Prime Minister Anthony Albanese endorses moves to strip Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor of his succession rights Aussies say they are repulsed by the latest sordid revelations but still support the monarchy.

Australia was the first nation to write to UK Prime Minister Keir Starmerto back the push to remove the disgraced former royal from the line of succession to the British and Australian crowns.

Alan, 71, described the Duke of York as a "worm". His wife Ruth said he was a disgrace and the late Queen would be devastated by the revelations.
But both stopped short of endorsing a republic.

"We will end up with the politicians so I don't think we will be better off," Alan said.

In a statement on Tuesday evening, Thames Valley Police confirmed searches had concluded at the ex-prince’s former residence of Royal Lodgein Berkshire.


They added their investigation is “ongoing” but said any updates are “unlikely to be for some time”.

It comes after the government backed the Lib Dems’ attempt to force the public release of files related to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s appointment as a trade envoy.

During the debate, trade minister Sir Chris Bryant slammed the ex-prince as “arrogant and entitled”.
 
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  • #405
Horse is greatly relieved! 😎
 
  • #406
On 21 July 2011, the day it was announced that the former prince would step down from the role, Epstein wrote, "I assume he knows that this is Charles' doing".

The email was in response to a message from an associate, who said: "Lots of TV coverage on PA and always big feature on you. Insane."
 
  • #407
Or he thought he had the authority to divulge secrets as trade envoy. I think that is actually a reasonable defense for the charges as I understand them. Although IANAL. Would love @Nikynoo to comment on this thread.
Let me read up on this. Back in the day it was no secret that A and other persons in privileged positions took advantage of their roles.

Sounds awful, I know. But I’m just not that interested in the Epstein/ Windsor/ Mandelson business.
 
  • #408
After 22 years in the Royal Navy, including combat operations as a helicopter pilot during the 1982 Falklands War, Andrew was named Britain’s special representative for international trade and investment in 2001. His frequent taxpayer-funded travel saw him dubbed “Air Miles Andy” by the press.

Links to questionable characters​

Once a subject of media fascination for his love life, the man the tabloids dubbed “Randy Andy” became a regular source of headlines because of his money woes and links to questionable characters, including Epstein, the American financier and convicted sex offender.

The then-prince’s business associations were the subject of tabloid stories stretching back to at least 2007, when he sold his house near Windsor Castle for 15 million pounds, 3 million pounds more than the original asking price, to Timur Kulibayev, son-in-law of then-Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, raising concerns that the deal was an attempt to buy influence in Britain.

A representative of Kulibayev said the purchase “was a commercial, arm’s length transaction,” and the price rose “as part of a competitive bidding process.

Shamed ex-Prince Andrew is effectively confined to his quarters at Sandringham after King Charles barred him from horse riding – a move insiders have told RadarOnline.com amounts to "house arrest" as the disgraced royal faces a police probe linked to Jeffrey Epstein.

Andrew Windsor, 66, relocated to Wood Farm on the Sandringham Estate three weeks ago, and has now been released "under investigation" after his arrest on his 66th birthday by Thames Valley Police on suspicion of misconduct in public office.
 

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