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I’m unaware of the Suzy lamplugh link. I don’t believe I have seen that anywhere.

Sadly (and we are seeing this with pandemic now) we’re all quite well connected! The amount of murders some of these victims stumbled across just living their nice lives is quite scary.

as for west, I don’t think we have a chance. The allotment where there are victims is long paved over. That cafe was perhaps the best hope, but it turned up empty too.

there are many out there but I’m afraid the time has gone
 
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Didn’t Fred once boast that there were bodies all over Gloucester under peoples patios? A
 
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Couple of real lookers there too
 
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Women were murdered. Please show them and their families respect.

Im referring to the culprits who deserve no respect at all , im a victim advocate
 
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Any new theories from the Fred West documentary? The relationship of Fred and Rose has always confused me (due to the reports of him not looking at her in court, etc.).

Also, he never admitted to killing Anne, but explained where the other bodies were relatively openly. The documentary say it is because she is the only one he really loved? I have heard this claimed about his attitudes to Rose too? Any ideas?
 
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Any new theories from the Fred West documentary? The relationship of Fred and Rose has always confused me (due to the reports of him not looking at her in court, etc.).

Also, he never admitted to killing Anne, but explained where the other bodies were relatively openly. The documentary say it is because she is the only one he really loved? I have heard this claimed about his attitudes to Rose too? Any ideas?
Fred was absolutely in love with Anna Mcfall, I believe the only victim he ever felt any guilt for killing.

Wasn't it Rose who wouldn't look at him in court? He tried to talk to her but she blanked him.

I haven't seen the new documentary but I've read and watched pretty much everything else out there on this case! What is the new doc called please?
 
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Fred was absolutely in love with Anna Mcfall, I believe the only victim he ever felt any guilt for killing.

Wasn't it Rose who wouldn't look at him in court? He tried to talk to her but she blanked him.

I haven't seen the new documentary but I've read and watched pretty much everything else out there on this case! What is the new doc called please?
Hi,

It was Rose you are right. Also the documentary is called ‘Fred West: The Glasgow Girls’.
 
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Right now, it appears to only be available on British television.

 
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Fred & Rose West: A British Horror Story focuses on the dark true story of two married serial killers who abused, raped, and murdered several young women and girls, including their own children, in the Gloucester area between 1967 and 1987.

Fred and Rose West were arrested in 1994, after police got a search warrant to excavate their property. Fred West, who was charged with 12 counts of murder, killed himself in prison in 1995 before he could stand trial. Rose West is currently serving a life sentence after being convicted on 10 murder charges.

The documentary series, out on Netflix, features interviews with Fred West’s lawyer, law enforcement involved, and journalists who covered the case, which shocked the nation in the '90s. Over three episodes, recently discovered recordings of Fred’s interviews with police make an already grisly story even more lurid



 
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Watching it as I type...
 
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a mug shot of a woman wearing large glasses with short hair

FULL NAME: Rosemary Pauline West
BORN: November 29, 1953
BIRTHPLACE: Barnstaple, United Kingdom
SPOUSE: Fred West (1972–1995)
CHILDREN: Heather, Mae, Stephen, Tara, Louise, Barry, Rosemary Jr., and Lucyanna
ASTROLOGICAL SIGN: Sagittarius

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There is a book, written by Fred's oldest daughter.
Out of the shadows - Anne Marie West Virginia Hill

Its very shocking and it gives a good insight about Fred but also Rose, they enjoyed the power and control, they had during the abuse and torture.

Very detailed, about their previous lives.



 
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Of the many murder trials Campbell covered, it was that of Rosemary West at Winchester in 1995 that most deeply affected him. The trial lasted seven weeks and more than 150 members of the media applied for accreditation to cover it. Pre-trial press coverage on an unprecedented scale and reports of six-figure sums being paid to witnesses raised doubts about how fair the trial itself could be. At the end, when Campbell asked one Crown witness for her reaction, she would not speak for less than £200.

The jury were offered counselling, as were the macho (predominantly male) press pack, one of whom raised a pint and said simply: “This is my counselling”.
 
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Woman in glasses smiling, another woman behind her.

The fiend, now 71, languishes in a room for the disabled on her prison wing

West, who was moved once again in 2019, is now being held in a special unit at women-only HMP New Hall near Wakefield in West Yorkshire.

She has been at New Hall for six years and calls herself Jennifer Jones after changing her name by deed poll in 2020 - but everyone knows her true identity.

West is one of 36 women serving life sentences at the jail, and one of around a dozen over the age of 60.

She is allowed a comfortable life behind bars despite her ongoing refusal to help investigators find the remains of 20 other rumoured victims of her and her husband
 
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Fred and Rose West young

The infamous serial killers Fred and Rose West are known for their heinous crimes against their victims. The pair committed a series of horrific murders and sexual assaults for their own perverse pleasure until 1994, when police apprehended Fred during an investigation into the disappearance of their daughter, Heather.

Heather, aged just 16, was strangled, dismembered in the family bath with a kitchen knife to avoid scratching the enamel, and subsequently buried beneath the patio. Another victim was West's eight year old stepdaughter Charmaine, whose kneecapped and dissected body was found under their previous residence.
 
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