UK UK - Jack the Ripper, London 1888, East End, in and around Whitechapel District UNSOLVED

[STANDREID]

My Ripper Last "Man" Club:

1>1861-1946: William West-The last person who'd testified at JtR victim inquest (Stride).

2>1863-1947: Walter Dew-The last detective involved in the Ripper case.

3>1862-1951: William Smith-The last policeman to see a canonical victim's body at the crime scene (Stride).

4>1868-1953: Amelia Brown-The last escaped JtR victim (alleged). She claimed that a man she took to be the Ripper tried to lasso her as she walked by the London Hospital wall in 1888.

5>1865-1954: James Stockley-The last policeman to be involved in the case while the murders were ongoing.

6>1865-1960: Dr. Denis Halsted-The last person who, in any way, could be considered a Ripper suspect.

7>1880-1964: Annie Tapper-The last (alleged) witness. She claimed she sold grapes to a man, who might have been JtR, for Stride on the night of her murder.

8>1870-1970: Lewis Keaton-The last policeman involved in the Ripper case while the investigation was still active. He joined the force in 1891.

Any additions or corrections?

 

[Deleted member 287549]

I first started reading about the heinous JKR crimes in the 1990's. They've definitely become part of popular culture, especially since they never caught the perp.

The Johnny Depp/Heather Graham film From Hell (2001) was an interesting "take" on the crimes/case - though they obviously too some liberties with the details, etc.

The recent Netflix UM segment didn't really shed any new light on this case, though I guess it was good to watch for those who hadn't known much about this previously.

I don't believe that JTR was a crazed killer that was randomly killing people. Instead, he was specifically targeting one segment of the population. Based on the research that I've done re: the case, the following appears plausible:

1) The perp. appeared to have some knowledge of anatomy due to the precision that was made re: the crimes. So, he may have been one of the following: A doctor/a medical student/or, a butcher.

2) Since the perp. specifically targeted s@$ workers, I suspect he had something against them specifically. It's possible that one of them gave him an incurable disease & he hated them all because of this; they didn't have medical cures for many of these diseases back in the late 1800's. Or, he may have been a zealot who hated them because he felt they were "sinners", etc.

 

[STANDREID]

My Butcher's Dozen victims and the percentage I think they were likely the Ripper's doing:

1-Annie Chapman-99%
2-Catherine Eddowes-98%
3-Mary Anne Nichols-95%
4-Mary Jane Kelly-90%
5-Elizabeth Stride-80%
6-Alice McKenzie-55%
7-Martha Tabram-45%
8-Emma Smith-40%
9-Frances Coles-30%
10-Annie Millwood-20%
11-Rose Mylett-15%
12-Elizabeth Jackson-10%
13 Carrie Brown-5%

 

[LadyL]

9-Found out by private party who threatened to turn him in.

10-Quelled desire by self-castration.

11-Fell in love and rechanneled desires.

12-Underwent religious conversion.

13-Killed by intended victim.

14-Infected by disease of victim (Eddowes?) and died as a result.

15-Accidentally injured himself in Kelly's room and died as a result.

16-Murdered by rival serial killer (The Thames Torso Murderer).

castration doesn't work because the desire is in their head, not their body (the body only reacts physically to what their brain thinks about)
they would find other ways to assault IMO

 

[LadyL]

I follow a Ripper author and tour guide (Russell Edwards) on FB whose latest book claims to have solved the mystery. He got a hold of a piece of evidence - the shawl - and his investigation led him to a conclusion about who did it.

 

[LadyL]

My Ripper Last "Man" Club:

1>1861-1946: William West-The last person who'd testified at JtR victim inquest (Stride).

2>1863-1947: Walter Dew-The last detective involved in the Ripper case.

3>1862-1951: William Smith-The last policeman to see a canonical victim's body at the crime scene (Stride).

4>1868-1953: Amelia Brown-The last escaped JtR victim (alleged). She claimed that a man she took to be the Ripper tried to lasso her as she walked by the London Hospital wall in 1888.

5>1865-1954: James Stockley-The last policeman to be involved in the case while the murders were ongoing.

6>1865-1960: Dr. Denis Halsted-The last person who, in any way, could be considered a Ripper suspect.

7>1880-1964: Annie Tapper-The last (alleged) witness. She claimed she sold grapes to a man, who might have been JtR, for Stride on the night of her murder.

8>1870-1970: Lewis Keaton-The last policeman involved in the Ripper case while the investigation was still active. He joined the force in 1891.

Any additions or corrections?

[bbm]

what do you mean sold grapes for Stride?

 

[STANDREID]

[bbm]

what do you mean sold grapes for Stride?

She sold grapes to this guy who was buying them to give to Stride who was with him as per her account.

 

[STANDREID]

castration doesn't work because the desire is in their head, not their body (the body only reacts physically to what their brain thinks about)
they would find other ways to assault IMO

I agree it didn't work for Ludke. Clarence Richeson did it to himself but didn't live long enough to see if it took. If Boston Corbett was the Ripper, it didn't work for him.

 

[DS2021]

Othram has used igg to identify the remains of a woman who died in 1866! What does that mean for the future of this case?

After 45 years, Kane County Jane Doe (1978) is Identified

Kane County Coroner’s Office and Batavia Police Department Team with Othram to Identify 1978 Jane Doe

dnasolves.com

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Othram has used igg to identify the remains of a woman who died in 1866! What does that mean for the future of this case?

As far as I can see, nothing at all. Why do you think there should be any implications for the JtR case?

 

[DS2021]

As far as I can see, nothing at all. Why do you think there should be any implications for the JtR case?

They are identifying old cases, cases older the JtR

 

[MelmothTheLost]

They are identifying old cases, cases older the JtR

Sure, but we know who the victims of JtR are, although there is considerable doubt around the early life of Mary Jane Kelly, where she came from and whether that was her real name. AFAIAA what is required is irrefutable and uncontaminated DNA from JtR which can be used to identify him, but that is what we do not have.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

A descendant of one of the Ripper’s victims has demanded an inquest into one of history’s most notorious serial killers after DNA evidence suggested the murderer was a Polish barber, RadarOnline.com can reveal.

The true identity of Jack the Ripper, whose grisly murders terrorized the murky slums of Whitechapel in east London in 1888, has been a mystery ever since.

He is believed to have killed at least five female prostitutes.

EXCLUSIVE: How Jack the Ripper's Identity Could Finally be Revealed — 136 Years On From Prostitute Rampage

The grisly case of Jack the Ripper could finally be closed by cops…136 years after his murderous rampages through London.

radaronline.com

 

[Reneemaree88]

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/jack-the-rippers-identity-confirmed-as-prime-suspects-dna-found-on-victims-100yearold-shawl/news-story/130ac3e8b723f4a3e20ced2dd1a3f924

 

[Reneemaree88]

Jack the Ripper's identity 'CONFIRMED' as DNA found on 100-year-old shawl

A RESEARCHER who says he revealed Jack the Ripper’s identity has told of his joy at finding a 100 per cent DNA match with his suspect. Russell Edwards’s bombshell finding has led the de…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Jack the Ripper, the mysterious serial killer, whose identity has long remained a mystery until now.

DNA from a shawl recovered at the scene of one of his crimes has incredibly found a 100 percent match.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1342108466792791

 

[Grouse]

Jack the Ripper, the mysterious serial killer, whose identity has long remained a mystery until now.

DNA from a shawl recovered at the scene of one of his crimes has incredibly found a 100 percent match.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1342108466792791

Although the suspect was named in that interview, the part where it said about a 100% DNA match seemed to be about that of the victim?

 

[LadyL]

Jack the Ripper, the mysterious serial killer, whose identity has long remained a mystery until now.

DNA from a shawl recovered at the scene of one of his crimes has incredibly found a 100 percent match.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1342108466792791

yes this was discovered by the person I mentioned upthread - he was waiting for it to hit the news after the one family requested an inquest

he has a book detailing it all

 

[HmmMysterious]

yes this was discovered by the person I mentioned upthread - he was waiting for it to hit the news after the one family requested an inquest

he has a book detailing it all

Experts still doubt Aaron Kominski is Jack the Ripper. A former curator of City of London Police's Crime Museum said that the shawl wasn't one of the items found at the crime scene.

Here's an article explaining this: Jack the Ripper Mystery solved

 

[PrairieWind]

Experts still doubt Aaron Kominski is Jack the Ripper. A former curator of City of London Police's Crime Museum said that the shawl wasn't one of the items found at the crime scene.

Here's an article explaining this: Jack the Ripper Mystery solved

Maybe some experts doubt, but others would say he is the killer. That the shawl does actually contain the DNA is evidence and is significant. It seems clear that Det Donald Swanson thought Kominski was likely the killer and shut down the investigation after visiting him. I understand that many don't want the identify of a killer to be known, since it solves a mystery that many make money off of. I understand that. I enjoy hearing many theories as well.