UK - Julia James, 53, murdered, Snowdown, Kent, 27 April 2021 *ARREST*

[Puzzles]

From the DM, dated today, May 1st:

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"...It comes as police confirmed revelations that a flasher had made an indecent exposure weeks before she died from 'blunt force injuries' was 'an important line of enquiry'..."

"...A police helicopter was seen hovering over the village last night for the first time, while the search now appears to be moving away from the remote bridleway where Julia, 53, was found dead, just a few hundred yards from her home in Snowdown..."

What might a helicopter have sought at night? A fugitive, still in the area, five days after Julia was murdered? Does anyone have ideas about this. other than perhaps the helicopter had nothing at all to do with the search?


Daughter of murdered PCSO Julia James, 53, shares poignant photo of her mother | Daily Mail Online

 

[Marulinka]

For a moment I thought a dognapling gone wrong was quite plausible. But then I remembered that the dog was found by her side...
Also police did not release whether there were aby signs of struggle on her body e.g. scratches, skin under nails etc..so far we only know of 'significant head injuries'

 

[Distant Observer]

When I think of bridleway I think of grassy and/or muddy pathways, potentially not the sort of thing that's easy to ride a bicycle on? I don't know what they're like in Kent though. Generally they don't tend to be neat tarmac in my experience.

Blunt trauma could have been caused by using any convenient rock lying about. Or a hefty piece of wood like a branch or an old fence stob lying about the woods. Needn't necessarily have been something brought along for the job.

Bridleways are normally cinder or gravel tracks. Kent has had so little rain over the last month that none of them will be muddy at the moment. It's unusual in areas of chalk rock like around Dover to see lumps of rock lying around that could be used to inflict injury. Possibly you could find a piece of earthenware drainage pipe or a piece of wood that could inflict serious injury but the word used by the police was 'severe' head trauma which suggests a weapon of some weight. I did suggest a hammer but a golf club could have been equally possible. I very much doubt the police will find the weapon. My hunch is it will have been taken home by the attacker and cleaned with bleach. It may well have been a random unprovoked attack but I think the cover-up will have been rational and callous.

 

[Kitkat28]

We need to stop excusing violence against women as “something” gone wrong. Dog napping gone wrong, mugging gone wrong, rape gone wrong, where does it end?

Callously beating a woman to death is not anything gone wrong. It is murder, plain and simple.

 

[DFR3217]

We need to stop excusing violence against women as “something” gone wrong. Dog napping gone wrong, mugging gone wrong, rape gone wrong, where does it end?

Callously beating a woman to death is not anything gone wrong. It is murder, plain and simple.

This is obviously true, but people are here to try and work out what happened, so using the term 'dog napping gone wrong' is not an intention to diminish the crime, it's an attempt to explore whether that might have been a factor in the murder. The policing of other people's language ought to be limited to the extremes, not to small failures.

 

[Sarahlou]

We need to stop excusing violence against women as “something” gone wrong. Dog napping gone wrong, mugging gone wrong, rape gone wrong, where does it end?

Callously beating a woman to death is not anything gone wrong. It is murder, plain and simple.

Agreed. I understand people wanting to go through theories but this seems to happen in lots of cases, suggestions it was something that went wrong. When it is mostly always just a man wanting to brutally murder a woman.

 

[Rosegold68]

This is obviously true, but people are here to try and work out what happened, so using the term 'dog napping gone wrong' is not an intention to diminish the crime, it's an attempt to explore whether that might have been a factor in the murder. The policing of other people's language ought to be limited to the extremes, not to small failures.

“Policing” of other people’s language needs to happen.....in fact it does. Posts get removed regularly
And there should always be challenge around minimising crime against women. Silencing won’t work anymore

 

[DFR3217]

“Policing” of other people’s language needs to happen.....in fact it does. Posts get removed regularly
And there should always be challenge around minimising crime against women. Silencing won’t work anymore

If posts are removed for breaking rules then that is appropriate, but it is also a decision of moderators. That is different to making assumptions about what someone posting here might think about the crime, if someone wonders if it is a dog napping or other crime gone wrong, that is speculation not minimising. Stealing dogs is happening a lot at the moment, it's not impossible that at some point someone gets killed.

People have come here to try and work out what might have happened, if you demand that every post has to include a denouncement of violence against women, noble as this might be, it demands a lot of people. It is reasonable to assume that most people are against violence against women, not to demand that they prove it in every post.

 

[Marulinka]

We need to stop excusing violence against women as “something” gone wrong. Dog napping gone wrong, mugging gone wrong, rape gone wrong, where does it end?

Callously beating a woman to death is not anything gone wrong. It is murder, plain and simple.

True that of course.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

If posts are removed for breaking rules then that is appropriate, but it is also a decision of moderators. That is different to making assumptions about what someone posting here might think about the crime, if someone wonders if it is a dog napping or other crime gone wrong, that is speculation not minimising. Stealing dogs is happening a lot at the moment, it's not impossible that at some point someone gets killed.

People have come here to try and work out what might have happened, if you demand that every post has to include a denouncement of violence against women, noble as this might be, it demands a lot of people. It is reasonable to assume that most people are against violence against women, not to demand that they prove it in every post.

I agree with you. The one known fact here is that Julia was brutally murdered. People are speculating about why and who from that point on.

I'm baffled at the moment. Nothing seems to be emerging to join any dots for me yet.

 

[Marulinka]

Guys I am the one who posted 'dog napping gone wrong' ...firstly I am a woman myself. From London not far from where Sarah Everard went missing. Deeply affected and angered by all that is happening to women all around this country and world as such.

But I want to say thank you to those of you who simply took time to point out that I was not trying to diminish the crime and its motives...the way I go about analysing any case is by accounting for all possibilities and then one by one eliminating them.

What I am trying to say my personal opinion is given serious head injuries (plural) is that the attacker displayed a degree of anger/hate toward the victim. We dont know much detail still but given the location of crime I would assume most likely either random attack sexual in nature (might just be someone hating women) or a person close enough to Julia who knew her routine and laid in wait for her specifically (family member or work related)

But still I mentioned dog napping gone wrong because it is very common nowadays...and often involves violence against dog owner..aso in same post I pointed out that I am discounting that as unlikely because the dog was found with the victim.

If it was not remote forested area I would also try to ascertain whether the motive of attack coyld have been robbery gone wrong....yet again that can be almost completely duscounted given the location of crime and that noyhing went missing.

To reiterate....that is me thinking out loud. I still think that clearly there is a very evil person out there who deliberately hurt Julia. Might be just as simple as a women hater... might be more complicated than that. Thats no excuse to the cruel and barbaric way she was forced to leave this world.

Thank you

 

[Kitkat28]

@Marulinka it wasn’t personal; I didn’t even read your post, I just saw someone’s quote.

I’m not trying to police anyone’s language. I’m making a valid point about violence against women. This needs to become more than memes and cutesy picture frames on Instagram and Facebook. It needs to be in our thoughts all the time, not just as hashtags like #justiceforsarah or whatever this week’s cause celebre is. We need to stand together all the time and not avoid inconvenient and uncomfortable truths.

When it is mostly always just a man wanting to brutally murder a woman.

And there should always be challenge around minimising crime against women. Silencing won’t work anymore

Thank you.

 

[Marulinka]

@Marulinka it wasn’t personal; I didn’t even read your post, I just saw someone’s quote.

I’m not trying to police anyone’s language. I’m making a valid point about violence against women. This needs to become more than memes and cutesy picture frames on Instagram and Facebook. It needs to be in our thoughts all the time, not just as hashtags like #justiceforsarah or whatever this week’s cause celebre is. We need to stand together all the time and not avoid inconvenient and uncomfortable truths.




Thank you.

You are absolutely right in your points. No offence taken at all. Thank you for speaking up for all without voice

 

[SocksKitty]

@Marulinka it wasn’t personal; I didn’t even read your post, I just saw someone’s quote.

I’m not trying to police anyone’s language. I’m making a valid point about violence against women. This needs to become more than memes and cutesy picture frames on Instagram and Facebook. It needs to be in our thoughts all the time, not just as hashtags like #justiceforsarah or whatever this week’s cause celebre is. We need to stand together all the time and not avoid inconvenient and uncomfortable truths.




Thank you.

We do not know at this point if the violence was aimed at her because she was a woman though. It may so easily have been a man murdered up there on the footpath had the perpetrator come across a different person, we just don't know the circumstances.

 

[Amonet]

I think part of this is that there was an interaction between Julia and another person in that field. At some point that person got very close to her. What was the reason for approaching her? What was the reason for getting so angry during this interaction that they grabbed hold of or took out some heavy object and hit Julia multiple times with it and killed her?

Someone could do that same walk around the field and a million times nothing adverse would happen. Someone might be walking faster or slower and the two people would simply pass, perhaps saying "hello/good afternoon". But this time someone was walking and at some point she and this other person got very close, and it ended in murder.

 

[Kitkat28]

We do not know at this point if the violence was aimed at her because she was a woman though. It may so easily have been a man murdered up there on the footpath had the perpetrator come across a different person, we just don't know the circumstances.

Please don’t do this.

 

[SocksKitty]

Please don’t do this.

What I am trying to point out is that yes callously beating a woman to death as has been said is not anything gone wrong. It is murder, plain and simple. There is also absolutely no excuse for violence towards women and something which Julia would have fought hard against as part of her job role in the domestic violence unit. However we do not know at this point if the violence was aimed at Julia because of her gender or because she was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[SocksKitty]

Devastated uncle says murdered PCSO taken away by 'worthless cowardly monster'


It says in this article her husband worked as an electrician,so it could be he worked as a hypnotherapist as a side line.

The police also appear to still be searching for a weapon and are still considering motives for the attack.

He does have a profile online which I will leave to sleuths to look up rather than making public as I don't want to violate the rules. It doesn't look like a side line job and the fact that he works alongside people with sexual problems/mental health problems could point towards someone like a client stalking his wife maybe but just my own observations.

 

[Skigh]

'Dognapper was on the prowl' weeks before PCSO Julia James was killed | Daily Mail Online


it has now emerged that local police were aware of a potential dog napping incident which took place weeks before Ms James's death.

The warning, published in a parish magazine, urges dog walkers not to go out alone and even to carry an alarm or walking stick.

Police say the warning was sparked by a report of a suspicious man in a BMW approaching two dog walkers back in March.


Today a source told the Sun that Ms James' death could have been a dog napping gone 'horribly wrong'.

The source said: 'It's possible the murderer was targeting her dog but it went horribly wrong.

'The killer is not going to want to take a chipped dog knowing he's just committed a murder.

'He may have panicked and fled, leaving the dog.'

Today a Kent Police spokesperson told MailOnline: 'We are keeping an open mind in regards to all possible lines of enquiry.'


I wonder if Julia had something with her which she tried to use to defend herself ,but itwas grabbed and used to attack her.

 

[Scorpiette]

'Dognapper was on the prowl' weeks before PCSO Julia James was killed | Daily Mail Online


it has now emerged that local police were aware of a potential dog napping incident which took place weeks before Ms James's death.

The warning, published in a parish magazine, urges dog walkers not to go out alone and even to carry an alarm or walking stick.

Police say the warning was sparked by a report of a suspicious man in a BMW approaching two dog walkers back in March.



I wonder if Julia had something with her which she tried to use to defend herself ,but itwas grabbed and used to attack her.

Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Being a PCSO, Julia may have been carrying something defensive, like a can of Mace etc. I'm sure she would have been aware of the warnings about dognappers etc, and may have been on her guard a bit more than 'Joe Public'? Just a thought.