Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher, 19, Emerson Valley, Milton Keynes, 14 Feb 2019 #3

[tresir2012]

Why doesn't this person that she met or was planning to meet voluntarily come forward and explain it himself? Did he get her to change her phone settings when she got back from work that day? So why did he do that if so?
What is he hiding?

 

[cluciano63]

What if the person has identified themselves to LE, provided an alibi, and the family just does not believe it? LE has to have some evidence to do much more than interview anyone who might have a motive, imo.

 

[Mind your biscuits]

A.C. is named in court proceedings from last summer related to Leah's brother. I don't think I can link it here due to tos. Daily Mail. Moo.

 

[dotr]

In earlier news, Leah's brother commented on the subject of grooming and Leah.
We could not look too deeply into that accusation because it was part of what caused him some legal trouble iirc.
Have been wondering about that especially as that word is one most often associated with grooming
a child, Leah is young, still a teen but no longer technically considered a child, so what was meant by that, is grooming always used for sexual purposes?
imo, speculation, fwiw.
How Victims are groomed by Abusive Predators
By Sharie Stines, Psy.D
29 Sep 2018
''What is grooming?

Grooming is a manipulative process used by a sexual (or other) predator for the purpose of creating a sense of trust with a targeted person prior to the act of actual victimization.

People of all ages can be groomed. Here is a list of common grooming tactics used by predators prior to actually abusing their victims:

1. They pretend to be someone and something they’re not. They pretend to be someone you can trust, so you put your guard down. They do this in a variety of ways, as will be described next.
2. They are very charming and present themselves as people who are the answer to all your needs. They seem to be “better than life.” This is because they aren’t really who they are portraying. Their charm is merely a ploy and involves superficial connecting at best.
3. They appear to be very empathic – mirroring you and showing a great amount of “seeing’ you and validating your felt needs and experiences. If the groomer is a an adult and the victim is a child, the abuser will put himself at the child’s level and act as if he really “gets” the child and meets him where he’s at.
4. Groomers act very innocuous and light-hearted. They don’t seem heavy, dark, or full of some deep, hidden secret. Victims do not suspect that he/she is anything but easy to be with.
5. They pretend to be your protector, acting outraged if anything bad happens to you and promising to protect you from all evil (how ironic.)

Once you’ve been groomed, the perpetrator uses more overtly abusive tactics:

1. He/she starts using direct coercion. “Come in here.” “Take off your clothes.” “Do this; do that.”
2. He/she holds a psychological (metaphorical) knife to your throat. Examples, such as, “Have sex with me or I’ll find someone who will.” “You’re lucky to have me. No one else could possibly want you.” “If you tell anyone I’ll kill your parents.”

How victims think:
Victims of abuse, after being groomed, feel confused. They have been told to stand on a rug; stood on it; and then they had the rug pulled out from under them, “Psyche!” Victims feel devastated and humiliated over how they are treated, confused because of mixed messages, and self-loathing. Victims always blame themselves.''

 

[pickle26]

New poster released

 

[Ruthbullock]

In earlier news, Leah's brother commented on the subject of grooming and Leah.
We could not look too deeply into that accusation because it was part of what caused him some legal trouble iirc.
Have been wondering about that especially as that word is one most often associated with grooming
a child, Leah is young, still a teen but no longer technically considered a child, so what was meant by that, is grooming always used for sexual purposes?
imo, speculation, fwiw.
How Victims are groomed by Abusive Predators
By Sharie Stines, Psy.D
29 Sep 2018
''What is grooming?

Grooming is a manipulative process used by a sexual (or other) predator for the purpose of creating a sense of trust with a targeted person prior to the act of actual victimization.

People of all ages can be groomed. Here is a list of common grooming tactics used by predators prior to actually abusing their victims:

1. They pretend to be someone and something they’re not. They pretend to be someone you can trust, so you put your guard down. They do this in a variety of ways, as will be described next.
2. They are very charming and present themselves as people who are the answer to all your needs. They seem to be “better than life.” This is because they aren’t really who they are portraying. Their charm is merely a ploy and involves superficial connecting at best.
3. They appear to be very empathic – mirroring you and showing a great amount of “seeing’ you and validating your felt needs and experiences. If the groomer is a an adult and the victim is a child, the abuser will put himself at the child’s level and act as if he really “gets” the child and meets him where he’s at.
4. Groomers act very innocuous and light-hearted. They don’t seem heavy, dark, or full of some deep, hidden secret. Victims do not suspect that he/she is anything but easy to be with.
5. They pretend to be your protector, acting outraged if anything bad happens to you and promising to protect you from all evil (how ironic.)

Once you’ve been groomed, the perpetrator uses more overtly abusive tactics:

1. He/she starts using direct coercion. “Come in here.” “Take off your clothes.” “Do this; do that.”
2. He/she holds a psychological (metaphorical) knife to your throat. Examples, such as, “Have sex with me or I’ll find someone who will.” “You’re lucky to have me. No one else could possibly want you.” “If you tell anyone I’ll kill your parents.”

How victims think:
Victims of abuse, after being groomed, feel confused. They have been told to stand on a rug; stood on it; and then they had the rug pulled out from under them, “Psyche!” Victims feel devastated and humiliated over how they are treated, confused because of mixed messages, and self-loathing. Victims always blame themselves.''

Is it this type of grooming, didn’t see any of the earlier posts? Could he have been referring to grooming by terrorist groups?

 

[Ruthbullock]

Is it this type of grooming, didn’t see any of the earlier posts? Could he have been referring to grooming by terrorist groups?

Grooming Models | Safe & Sound
or county lines, sex trafficking- so many types of grooming that aren’t necessarily done to young children, but also adults.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Thanks for the link, just a thought, but could Leah have encountered any problems/relationships (not Mr X) with customers or whomever she dealt with at the FINANCE company she worked at?
Also wondering if Leah had a "type" of guy she was attracted to, ie. older, established, artistic, athletic, white, brown black, rocker, hippy, conservative, religious, punk, ect ect?
Just because L may have had something happening with X, does not mean there is not a Y or a Z
somewhere,imo, speculation.

From link..
''Thursday February 14, 2019, Valentine's Day

8am. Leah, 19, sets off for work as normal. She has an admin job with finance company DFC in Davy Avenue, Knowlhill and walks the two-mile journey to and from work every day, often going via Furzton Lake.

Leah Croucher
5.45pm. Leah walks home from work. Strangely, the location settings on her Samsung phone were switched off in the Furzton Lake area. Nobody knows why. It could be that she was downloading another app that disabled them. But the mobile phone company has confirmed Leah had never turned off her location settings before.

6pm. Leah arrives home from work. She changes into tracksuit bottoms and a long-sleeved top with the logo 'I solemnly swear that I am up to no good' (a quote from her favourite Harry Potter books) and leaves the house on foot. She tells her mum she is going to visit a friend.

7.15pm. Leah arrives home again. She doesn't fancy the meal her mum was cooking so she ordered herself a Chinese takeway. Her mum asks if her friend is okay and Leah replies with a yes.

Leah ate her meal and went to her room to watch a film. Her behaviour that night was totally normal, say her parents''

Now I thought it was reported at the time that the last evening, the night of the 14th February (Valentine's Day) Leah was asked to help pick a forthcoming holiday with the parents that night?

 

[dotr]

Grooming Models | Safe & Sound
or county lines, sex trafficking- so many types of grooming that aren’t necessarily done to young children, but also adults.

There is this..
Middle-class children 'being groomed to sell drugs'

ITV Reports on Drug Dealers Grooming Young People in the UK - Volteface
''ITV’s report follows on from their revelation last year that the government is aware of, but unsure how to combat, drug gangs grooming young teenagers into transporting drugs across the UK (known as ‘going country’ or ‘county lines’) as per a Home Office document leaked by ITV.''

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

If I recall correctly, the hotel picking was the night before Valentine’s. It was showing, at the time, that Leah had things in the future to be looking forward to and giving no indication that she wouldn’t be around for it. I think the confusion on the date of this hotel picking was because the parents hadn’t seen her on the morning of the 15th due to leaving for work earlier than Leah got up.

 

[Ruthbullock]

If I recall correctly, the hotel picking was the night before Valentine’s. It was showing, at the time, that Leah had things in the future to be looking forward to and giving no indication that she wouldn’t be around for it. I think the confusion on the date of this hotel picking was because the parents hadn’t seen her on the morning of the 15th due to leaving for work earlier than Leah got up.

Can anyone link any older articles saying about this- I’m intrigued how it became a point to make.

 

[dotr]

Can anyone link any older articles saying about this- I’m intrigued how it became a point to make.

Oct 2019
Leah Croucher was having secret romance with 'married' man in Milton Keynes before she vanished, say parents
''For legal reasons, we cannot reveal the man's identity but police have spoken to him and have no suspicions about him. It is understood he has an alibi for the time that Leah vanished.

Today Leah's mum Claire broke her silence to talk about the relationship with the man, who we will call X''.

''On Saturday February 3, twelve days before Leah disappeared, she announced she was going to book a hotel room and have a girlie night with two female friends, drinking alcohol and gossiping.''
''Leah's dad dropped her at the Jury's Inn at Central Milton Keynes and waved goodbye as she walked off.

It was only much later, when her bank statement arrived some time after Leah's disappearance, that the Crouchers realised their daughter had lied to them.

"Her statement showed she had booked a room at the cheaper hotel nearby - the Travelodge," said Claire. "We checked with her friends, of course, and they said they hadn't been with her that night.''


''Then there was the mysterious outing on Valentine's night, the night before Leah vanished. She left home between 6pm and 7.15pm, telling her mum she was seeing a friend. But checks showed she never saw that friend and police, despite numerous appeals, have never established where she went or why she was with.''

 

[dotr]

June 2019
Teen may have met someone on Valentine's Day before vanishing
"We have identified that she was telling friends that she had a number of stress factors and things going on that were causing her anxiety and upset.

"There was a number of things going on, not one particular thing really stands out.

"But it is evident that there was a relationship that Leah was involved in that was not turning out or developing the way Leah hoped it would have done.

"So there clearly were some factors going on in Leah's life at that time."

''Police investigating the case have also discovered she changed or turned off her smartphone's location tracking services the day before she went missing.

During her journey home from work around 5pm, the teen walked around the eastern side of Furzton Lake.

Whilst travelling home, police say her data settings on her mobile phone changed.

Det Ch Insp Howard said: "We don't fully understand why that is. There are a number of potential explanations.

"But it is possible that the settings have been deliberately changed. I.e. Location services on an app or on the phone in general have been switched off.''


"But we know that the phone was still in Leah's possession at that time and the morning of the 15th.

"So I'm very keen to understand what the relevance and significance in that change of data is."

There is no electronic or financial trace of the Milton Keynes teenager since 8.34am on Friday, February 15.''

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Can anyone link any older articles saying about this- I’m intrigued how it became a point to make.

It was quite a strange point to make at the time but I think it was Claire and John's way of basically saying Leah had things to look forward to (and wasnt therefore suicidal). The tricky thing was that initially it was portrayed that all in the garden was rosy, which of course over time as things unfolded became apparent that wasnt really the case.

ETA - reading that back, it may sound judgemental of them but I dont blame them at all. We dont know what they were told to say, or what they were protecting her from, or what they found out later

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

The hotel picking that I was thinking about was maybe in one of the video appeals from Leah’s parents. I think it was a hotel airport for when they were on an upcoming family holiday. It wasn’t the MK hotel night.

 

[Kaykedi]

I am going to be sensible and not post names, but what are the rules for mr x? I thought this was already in MSM last year? The reason I ask is that I thought I remembered his alibi from that time, but like a Mandela effect, it appears to be different...

strange

I can't remember what his alibi was. Was it that he was at work?

 

[Kaykedi]

Why doesn't this person that she met or was planning to meet voluntarily come forward and explain it himself? Did he get her to change her phone settings when she got back from work that day? So why did he do that if so?
What is he hiding?

 

[Kaykedi]

Now I thought it was reported at the time that the last evening, the night of the 14th February (Valentine's Day) Leah was asked to help pick a forthcoming holiday with the parents that night?

You are right, that is exactly what was reported

 

[Kaykedi]

I don’t think Leah’s family should name X, although I thoroughly understand the temptation.

I wonder if Leah’s mum and dad ever met him? Before the disappearance, or after?

I don’t know the legal implications but I think Leah’s mum and dad should be facilitated to meet with X and his mother in order to ask them for the information they are wanting. I guess LE would need to be there for everybody’s safety. I am thinking X’s mother presumably knows X is a friend of Leah, and could confirm if she had met Leah at any point. Having Leah’s mum and X’s mum present would help everyone, I think. (This is all just moo. Aside from legal implications, obviously I have never been in any kind of missing person situation so I don’t know whether this would feel like a right thing to try and set up. I also think it would be really difficult for all participants not to set expectations of the outcome beforehand. I know nobody will probably ask or answer anything that hasn’t been asked or answered to LE, but maybe it would help some niggles become less important so that energy can be concentrated on other aspects.)

Good idea of yours regarding possible mediation, but, I'm afraid Mr X and his mother wouldn't meet with Mr and Mrs Croucher. No chance whatsoever IMO. And, his mother won't have met Leah, again MOO

 

[Kaykedi]

As a local, my guess is 100% car park area. I think it went down like this:

Night before, big drama that only one other person is aware of (and he's not telling). Logical assumption is that she was pregnant I think.

Day of disappearance - some kind of follow up communication. Leah becomes v distraught. He says calm down, it will be ok, I'll have someone pick you up (my guess is a taxi driven by someone he knows well).

Leah meets pick up vehicle in the car park at the lake, which will actually be quite secluded at that time.

Leah is driven away and sadly I believe killed.

The part I'm less sure of if what Mr X understood the intention of the pick up to be. Was he innocent of arranging for her to be "removed", but an elder family member perhaps intervened?

All entirely JMO.

Absolutely spot on