Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher, 19, Emerson Valley, Milton Keynes, 14 Feb 2019 #5

[JuicyLucy]

No she has never mentioned Leah Croucher.
I think Juicy Lucy will say the same but over to Lucy now for a response.

It was said upthread that she did, but as far as I'm concerned it was just hearsay.

On the other hand, if we're working on the basis that HF never so much as mentioned Leah's name, then there's literally no reason to suppose that EB has any relevance to Leah's case at all. All we know (assuming you trust MSM to have fact-checked adequately) is that TVP conducted a search of the farm and land at some point (not the barn specifically afaik) but there's no confirmation even of whether that was part of Operation Dawlish, never mind any info about specifically what prompted that search.

In that event, I'm at a loss to know why EB was ever mentioned on this thread. Okay, so there was an alleged incident of animal cruelty at that location, but if we scrutinised every place in a 20-mile radius of MK where something bad had happened, we'd never get done.

JMO

 

[SaintGertrude]

I was wondering what others think about the most recent witness statement saying that they saw Leah on the day she went missing and she had 'wet hair' tucked into her jacket.
New sighting of Leah Croucher 'with tears in her eyes' in Milton Keynes

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[WiseOwl]

The 10 questions the Leah Croucher Disappearance Community Investigation group want to ask the police about missing Leah:

10 questions the public want police to answer about missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher

 

[JuicyLucy]

The 10 questions the Leah Croucher Disappearance Community Investigation group want to ask the police about missing Leah:

10 questions the public want police to answer about missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher

I'm bemused about the link the paper has supplied to the outcome of Haydon's court case (in Q9). Its presence suggests it backs up the assertion that X was Leah's boyfriend, even though he denies it, and yet if you click through it provides no such evidence - although it does name him, which perhaps was the real intention.

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at TVP when they received the FB group's demands.

 

[Cherwell]

The Leah Croucher Disappearance - Community Investigation group now has almost 7,000 members from all over the country and together they identified the points they wanted clarified from the three year police investigation.

Some of those 7,000 members have only joined to see what lunatic theories are being bandied about.

 

[Skigh]

The 10 questions the Leah Croucher Disappearance Community Investigation group want to ask the police about missing Leah:

10 questions the public want police to answer about missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher

I am pleased they are focusing on her relationship with Mr X and not any of the recent theories, which have been grabbing the headlines and derailing people's thoughts away from this line of inquiry.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

I would be interested in the answers to those questions.

And whether they found out who was damaging the posters recently.

 

[HollyHunter9]

It would be interesting to see if the police actually respond to any of the questions as most of them refer to Mr X, who the police have been adamant for 3 years is not involved and has an alibi. Why don't they just come out and say if there is a legitimate alibi as to why he or anyone he knows is not involved. It would help stop all the speculation going round and round in circles. I can't help but feel there's a reason why the police are holding this info back.

 

[Miss_French]

It would be interesting to see if the police actually respond to any of the questions as most of them refer to Mr X, who the police have been adamant for 3 years is not involved and has an alibi. Why don't they just come out and say if there is a legitimate alibi as to why he or anyone he knows is not involved. It would help stop all the speculation going round and round in circles. I can't help but feel there's a reason why the police are holding this info back.

You've answered your own question. The police don't need to go giving details about people who aren't suspects or persons of interest. If they've said he's got an alibi, what's the difference between that and a legitimate alibi?

 

[Skigh]

You've answered your own question. The police don't need to go giving details about people who aren't suspects or persons of interest. If they've said he's got an alibi, what's the difference between that and a legitimate alibi?

I think HollyHunter meant that did anyone other than his family give him an alibi ,was he seen on cctv anywhere?

Though if another family member/members were involved I bet Mr X
made sure he had an alibi.

 

[tedtink]

You've answered your own question. The police don't need to go giving details about people who aren't suspects or persons of interest.

But the Police DID come out and say that MrX had an alibi, so they DID give out details.

WHY did they give out this info and when? What was the order of events that lead Police to say he has an alibi?

Does anyone know when this 'alibi info' was first put into MSM? Was it during the HC Court case and was made public purely to try to appease HC ?


The Police said MrX had an alibi, then the Judge effectively closed down any further discussion of MrX IMO by saying what he said in Court.

"Judge Sheridan told him: “The police have fully investigated the person that you suspected. There is, at this stage, nothing to support those suspicions."

"I cannot go into the details of the police investigation but can tell you it is being controlled at a very high level. It is detailed and, if I respectfully say so, they really are trying desperately hard.

“You must allow them, however strongly you feel, to do the investigating. You will jeopardise their investigation if you get it into your head that somebody is responsible for it.”

Brother of missing Milton Keynes girl Leah Croucher took the law into his own hands with her 'ex-boyfriend'

 

[HollyHunter9]

You've answered your own question. The police don't need to go giving details about people who aren't suspects or persons of interest. If they've said he's got an alibi, what's the difference between that and a legitimate alibi?

@Skigh has correctly interpreted my post as meaning is his alibi concrete ~ Is he on CCTV elsewhere at time of her disappearance? Or is he at work witnessed by a number of independent people? OR is his alibi from a close friend or relative? Saying he was with them at the time? I'm not so sure I'd believe an alibi like that.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Tbf, TVP are hardly going to say at this point that X's alibi was always a bit bogus and it would probably be a good idea to look at it again. And if they were going to share its details with us all, they would have done so by now imo. So I think each of us probably just has to make up their own mind about whether we trust them to have done a thorough job.

My own feeling is that even if they did a shoddy job initially, the fresh focus on him that HC's accusations caused will have led them to revisit the possibility of X as a valid suspect then, in case the court ended up scrutinising their efforts in order to judge whether HC had acted reasonably. That's JMO though and I know not everyone agrees.

Either way, I don't see how TVP can cave to demands to show their working now, as it would open the door for anyone to demand a public explanation from any police force about anyone being ruled out of any enquiry at any time in the past or future. Even if you think Leah Croucher's case should/would be an exception, it would still create a procedural precedent that any aggrieved party could reasonably point to. So I'd be astonished if TVP comply and I don't think we should read anything sinister into that. I understand why people wish they would though.

JMO

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

The Police said MrX had an alibi, then the Judge effectively closed down any further discussion of MrX IMO by saying what he said in Court.

"Judge Sheridan told him: “The police have fully investigated the person that you suspected. There is, at this stage, nothing to support those suspicions."

"I cannot go into the details of the police investigation but can tell you it is being controlled at a very high level. It is detailed and, if I respectfully say so, they really are trying desperately hard.

“You must allow them, however strongly you feel, to do the investigating. You will jeopardise their investigation if you get it into your head that somebody is responsible for it.”

Brother of missing Milton Keynes girl Leah Croucher took the law into his own hands with her 'ex-boyfriend'

I'd be inclined to listen to the judge on this one - he/she has access to far more information than anybody outside of the police, and is even in a position to oversee the police's work (in a sense):

"You will jeopardise their investigation if you get it into your head that somebody is responsible for it."

 

[LINEOFDUTY]

Did the media report the details of the Aylesbury court case?

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Wikipedia refuses for the third time to run page about missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher

 

[JusticeDT]

Wikipedia refuses for the third time to run page about missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher

I find this really odd. I just checked Andrew gosden wiki page and that quotes Sheffield Star for example

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

"The page would attract millions of views worldwide"

The page would also attract dozens of nuts who would constantly edit the page back-and-forth to further their own particular narrative that they like. It would be a nightmare for the mods.

 

[JuicyLucy]

"The page would attract millions of views worldwide"

The page would also attract dozens of nuts who would constantly edit the page back-and-forth to further their own particular narrative that they like. It would be a nightmare for the mods.

Yes, precisely. It would be a constant battle to keep X's name off the page. Minefield.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

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