Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher - Emerson Valley - Milton Keynes - #6

[WiseOwl]

MK Citizen reporting that Maxwell had keys to the property from November 2018:

Police name MK man who killed himself 2 months after Leah Croucher's disappearance as suspect in her murder

Police have pointed the finger at a convicted sex offender in a press conference this afternoon but insist they are ‘keeping an open mind’

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk

Maxwell had been employed by the home owner to carry out some property maintenance at the house. And police say Maxwell had keys to the property from November 2018.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Fred West....... Epstein.....The list could go on and on.............

They take their own lives once they've been captured and convicted, not before.

 

[LammyTheRobot]

There is still a large question to answer here: How was this man employed? How did the owners/managers of the property find him? Especially pertinent if he lived an itinerant lifestyle.

He will obviously be connected to people locally in some form to have been employed in this way, and he may have been - IMO - employed in a similar way in other properties.

 

[Plod]

Fred West....... Epstein.....The list could go on and on.............

Also - guys is likely to have serious mental health issues or be a drug addict or alcohol. Sex offenders tend to have other issues, not just a regular guy. I’d it all got to much then sure he’d Kill himself.

 

[debzz1234]

Maybe the owners were back visiting their house in September 2018.

Maybe the owners were back visiting their house in September 2018.

??? They said they returned in june 2019 defo someone living there! cant get my head round no one noticing anything

 

[Outside the box]

They take their own lives once they've been captured and convicted, not before.

He wouldn't of had a good time in the nick and he would go known it and the net was closing in, seemed like a drifter who had nowhere left to drift, I would not be surprised if over the last 20+ years a few more unsolved crimes could be linked towards him..

 

[Rusty Braincells]

They take their own lives once they've been captured and convicted, not before.

Several killers have ended their own lives after committing a murder before being arrested, Alice Gross’s killer for example. I’m sure dozens of other examples could be found. It doesn’t point away from NM at all.

 

[MrsWatson]

Well, this was not at all what I expected!

I wonder if LE has named him as a suspect because his fingerprints were on the belongings of Leah's that were found. Or they fast tracked DNA testing and got a fast match.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I agree. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It’s a well known fact that a lot of sex offenders start off as stalkers/flashers and then might attack/molest and then gets worse. Thinking of Libby Squires in Hull around the same time - her murderer started as stalker and moved on and on to graver offences. And I think this has happened here - and he’s been so horrified or haunted by it, he killed himself. Also, the police had ruled out Mr x, but the family were possibly convinced he was involved. I would think the police looked at all possibilities of abduction by sec offender. And yes I would think he’s been watching her and stalking her.
Can anyone remind me about the last footage of her - wasn’t there some guy walking along behind her - I cant find any clips of it anymore. Might totally be unrelated person also on way to work, or as they’ve all disappeared off internet I wonder if it’s now part of police evidence qgainst Nm

iirc he looked really young to me. JMO MOO

 

[tedtink]

They take their own lives once they've been captured and convicted, not before.

We don't know enough about him to judge the state of his mental health or what motivated him to commit suicide.

 

[Officer Dibble]

amazing a property owned from aboard with owners very rarely visiting ..being rented by and maintained by two different sex offenders

Good point. JMO

 

[lore1]

others did have keys:

Today, a neighbour said that her CCTV had recorded the moment two men - who appeared to be estate agents - appeared to find the body on Monday.

Olga Kopilova said that her security system saw the two men entering the house next door. Olga said they appeared to contact a third man, who arrived at the property with ladders. Police arrived a short time later, she said.

Olga said police had taken away the CCTV as part of their investigation. She added: 'It is very upsetting to know what was in that house.'

The Al-Omers stayed at the property months after she vanished but there is no suggestion they are involved in her disappearance and they only used the house once a year as a 'summer house', neighbours told The Times.

The newspaper also reports there is CCTV showing the moment her body was found. Two men, believed to be estate agents, had arrived on Monday and her belongings including a backpack were reportedly found inside.

A third man was called and arrived with ladders, shortly before the police swept in. The attic and ceiling are being worked on by forensics teams, where the remains were believed to have been hidden.

 

[Outside the box]

There is still a large question to answer here: How was this man employed? How did the owners/managers of the property find him? Especially pertinent if he lived an itinerant lifestyle.

He will obviously be connected to people locally in some form to have been employed in this way, and he may have been - IMO - employed in a similar way in other properties.

Either people he knew or off gumtree? Facebook? Free ads? Lots of places like this to find work now and ads are sometimes self deleting even if the advertiser doesnt take them down, cash jobs effectively and someone like this man would of used these platforms to his advantage, keeps him off goverment/police radars a little bit more.

 

[Miss_French]

I think the biggest mistake the police have made is keeping Leah as a missing persons case. The family knew she hadn't/wouldn't have 'ran away' and there was nothing to suggest she did either.

I too, don't find it strange that the owner possibly hadn't been in the loft, the only time i've entered mine is for christmas decorations, and we already know the owner doesn't spend much time here.

What classification do you think the police should have given Leah? A 'missing person' is exactly that: it doesn't apply just to runaways. People can be missing because they've gone deep off the road in an RTA.

 

[Willowy]

NM makes sense to me.

The owners of the house may have known NM by a different name if he was always on the move/changing his identity.

 

[WiseOwl]

others did have keys:

Today, a neighbour said that her CCTV had recorded the moment two men - who appeared to be estate agents - appeared to find the body on Monday.

Olga Kopilova said that her security system saw the two men entering the house next door. Olga said they appeared to contact a third man, who arrived at the property with ladders. Police arrived a short time later, she said.

Olga said police had taken away the CCTV as part of their investigation. She added: 'It is very upsetting to know what was in that house.'

The Al-Omers stayed at the property months after she vanished but there is no suggestion they are involved in her disappearance and they only used the house once a year as a 'summer house', neighbours told The Times.

The newspaper also reports there is CCTV showing the moment her body was found. Two men, believed to be estate agents, had arrived on Monday and her belongings including a backpack were reportedly found inside.

A third man was called and arrived with ladders, shortly before the police swept in. The attic and ceiling are being worked on by forensics teams, where the remains were believed to have been hidden.

Yes, probably the estate or letting agents.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Either people he knew or off gumtree? Facebook? Free ads? Lots of places like this to find work now and ads are sometimes self deleting even if the advertiser doesnt take them down, cash jobs effectively and someone like this man would of used these platforms to his advantage, keeps him off goverment/police radars a little bit more.

Very likely NM was being paid cash in hand. Ad online or card posted in local shop or word of mouth. Not on any books, not registered for tax etc. He may not even have had a bank account, lots of people in the “black economy” of unregistered work and transactions do not. Peter Tobin was travelling around working like this under assumed names for years.

Edit: to OP’s other point, yes if he had access to other properties then this needs to be looked at.

 

[Kinners_D]

others did have keys:

Today, a neighbour said that her CCTV had recorded the moment two men - who appeared to be estate agents - appeared to find the body on Monday.

Olga Kopilova said that her security system saw the two men entering the house next door. Olga said they appeared to contact a third man, who arrived at the property with ladders. Police arrived a short time later, she said.

Olga said police had taken away the CCTV as part of their investigation. She added: 'It is very upsetting to know what was in that house.'

The Al-Omers stayed at the property months after she vanished but there is no suggestion they are involved in her disappearance and they only used the house once a year as a 'summer house', neighbours told The Times.

The newspaper also reports there is CCTV showing the moment her body was found. Two men, believed to be estate agents, had arrived on Monday and her belongings including a backpack were reportedly found inside.

A third man was called and arrived with ladders, shortly before the police swept in. The attic and ceiling are being worked on by forensics teams, where the remains were believed to have been hidden.

No necessarily, as stated before it could be a key safe for which the owner gave the code to people needing access to the property.

Just because they arrived and were able to access this week does not mean there were more keys available in 2019.

 

[Miss_French]

others did have keys:

Today, a neighbour said that her CCTV had recorded the moment two men - who appeared to be estate agents - appeared to find the body on Monday.

Olga Kopilova said that her security system saw the two men entering the house next door. Olga said they appeared to contact a third man, who arrived at the property with ladders. Police arrived a short time later, she said.

Olga said police had taken away the CCTV as part of their investigation. She added: 'It is very upsetting to know what was in that house.'

The Al-Omers stayed at the property months after she vanished but there is no suggestion they are involved in her disappearance and they only used the house once a year as a 'summer house', neighbours told The Times.

The newspaper also reports there is CCTV showing the moment her body was found. Two men, believed to be estate agents, had arrived on Monday and her belongings including a backpack were reportedly found inside.

A third man was called and arrived with ladders, shortly before the police swept in. The attic and ceiling are being worked on by forensics teams, where the remains were believed to have been hidden.

But maybe the pool of keyholders was limited at the time. We don't know where Maxwell picked up his keys or even know if the house requires the same keys now.

 

[SouthLondon85]

Poor, poor Leah; truly the stuff of nightmares. And her poor family, we were all desperately hoping that they would at least get some answers after all this time. Barring accessing things like NM's search history posthumously for example I doubt we will ever know for sure the true sequence of events, unless he confessed to someone before he died who has kept quiet about it up until now.

His occupation certainly seems to answer a lot of our questions, as does the fact he is no longer alive – perhaps his intention had been to return and move at least her possessions once the search had 'cooled down', but he took his own life before that point was reached.

In terms of how he managed to get her into the house, I can well imagine that if she'd walked past him regularly on her way to and from work and they'd perhaps said hello/briefly chatted before, that her guard would have been down if he'd asked her for her help with something inside the house – just off the top of my head, someone saying to me 'there's a wounded bird/animal in the garden and I need someone's help to rescue it' would quite possible override my own alarm bells if it wasn't a total stranger.