Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher - Emerson Valley - Milton Keynes - #7

[LINEOFDUTY]

Well this is the big question, what was the accuracy of that final ping? I'm not sure how much cell orientated pinging goes on automatically and how many towers are involved in this, if it's one tower it's any part of a circles line she could be on, if it's two then it's two points she could be on and if it's three towers or more she could only be at one point, this is very accurate, draw three circles yourself all over lapping to see. Another way is via WiFi scanning, and maybe these days Bluetooth too. Or by location services/ timeline of the device which she had disabled previous night, this has the added accuracy of the phones gps receivers. In my opinion, if the ping involved three towers or possibly even two they would have been able to differentiate whether she was at the lake or on loxbeare drive at 8.34am. if no ping was done then it's by mast and this is wise area and therefore useless.

You also have to remember at furzton she is positioned between the fair and NM house so he/ or his friends could have been walking between the two or sat in vehicles first thing in the morning in the car park to keep warm out of site of the camera.

With the phone being broken, thrown or her simply not wanting to turn it on this would explain why she never called a taxi and opted for a bus.

One mast is within 110 m of the pathway next to the Pub/Hotel is on the nearby Roundabout. Covered a lot back in 2021

 

[LINEOFDUTY]

I had thought that the owners would most likely use a property management company. But the police said that the owners had employed him no mention of a company. If it was a company I assume they gave the owners NM name to give to the police. Still doesn't mean he was the only one with a key or had access though.

He may have maintained other properties and an introduction given to the owners by renting agency or neighbour. LE will soon find that out

 

[Jaesu]

I would assume that the crime scene began downstairs even from within the garage and then up the stairs, into the bathroom and then the loft. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the garden area will be part of it too. That is a wide area to forensically examine and would take a long time, virtually everything will have to come up. Because it happened so long ago, it will take a lot more work to find evidence, but it will be there somewhere.

True 4ish years is a long time and suppose a lot of evidence will have degraded or been cleaned extensively (thanks to the pandemic) since depending on where the OG crime scene is.
Sort of feel sorry for forensics as its going to be a slog in that regard.

 

[LINEOFDUTY]

I do find it interesting that the Bucks local paper have the police stating its a complex scene. Sounds like they feel their is more to find on site...

Not noticed this being reported but living nearby Police have had two police dogs on site yesterday Tuesday and today. You must draw your own conclusion about what type of dogs would be brought into a house at this stage.

 

[pedronz06]

One mast is within 110 m of the pathway next to the Pub/Hotel is on the nearby Roundabout. Covered a lot back in 2021

Doesn't matter if they don't do a ping which I believe is completed manually you could be anywhere near that mask on any side of it, so you could be standing 1000 meter from the mask on the other side of the roundabout that you mention and not be in furzton at all. Even when she was at work it most likely connected to the same mask.

 

[Lucy6226]

Not noticed this being reported but living nearby Police have had two police dogs on site yesterday Tuesday and today. You must draw your own conclusion about what type of dogs would be brought into a house at this stage.

The question is, is this for Leah or other possible victims?

 

[LammyTheRobot]

I know it has been discussed in detail here before re convicted rapist Joseph Mcann. It is known he abducted and raped his victims using a car, one of which appears to be a 'shiny black car', then taking them to different and it appears random addresses.
There was a report of a witness describing a man in a black car 'pushing' his passenger down in the seat.
Although JMs attacks were reported as starting April 2019, he is known to have been 'free' in Feb 19 and not a million miles from the area.
Am wondering if the suggestion NM had traveller connections if there would possibly be a link here? JMO.

I forgot all about McCann - good shout, thank you.

 

[pedronz06]

I forgot all about McCann - good shout, thank you.

I wonder if NM knew JM and assisted him/ owed him in some way, maybe even compared notes. This is one of the reasons why I mentioned the possibility of other victims in the garden/ under slabs etc the other day. I also wonder if JM purchased a new car seat at some point and dumped his old one with the mattress up Loxbeare Drive?
Edit: didn't notice, some of this was already mentioned.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Right. I always wonder what happens to these types of homes where major crime scenes occur. You’d never want to be there, but who would want to buy it and how would you sell it?!

Good point. JMO

 

[Officer Dibble]

DBM

 

[Officer Dibble]

I know it has been discussed in detail here before re convicted rapist Joseph Mcann. It is known he abducted and raped his victims using a car, one of which appears to be a 'shiny black car', then taking them to different and it appears random addresses.
There was a report of a witness describing a man in a black car 'pushing' his passenger down in the seat.
Although JMs attacks were reported as starting April 2019, he is known to have been 'free' in Feb 19 and not a million miles from the area.
Am wondering if the suggestion NM had traveller connections if there would possibly be a link here? JMO

Hi Mollie, sorry I was crediting someone else when I should have credited you. Thanks for this info - you make some good points IMO. JMO

 

[bringmeacupoft]

Neil Maxwell left a warning note on the door of the bin cupboard where he hanged himself, sources have revealed

‘Please call the police’ he wrote, our sources have revealed

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk

 

[Mollie123]

Neil Maxwell left a warning note on the door of the bin cupboard where he hanged himself, sources have revealed

‘Please call the police’ he wrote, our sources have revealed

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk

"His friends say the Loxbearne Drive house was one of many that he looked after on Furzton, Campbell Park and other estates around MK."

This sent shivers.

 

[Lacommisaria]

Doesn't matter if they don't do a ping which I believe is completed manually you could be anywhere near that mask on any side of it, so you could be standing 1000 meter from the mask on the other side of the roundabout that you mention and not be in furzton at all. Even when she was at work it most likely connected to the same mask.

I've been following the discussion for sometime and it crossed my mind that maybe Leah did not turn off her location settings. Maybe they were jammed. Leah may have entered a vehicle or location with a gps jammer deliberately placed within the environment? Maybe, if it was a vehicle, it was part of a fleet of corporate, diplomatic, government vehicles. The driver would have to then mask their location? Article below explains...

What is Vehicle Tracking & Why Should You do it in 2022?

Learn more about how vehicle tracking & fleet management systems can benefit your business, and find out how to choose the right one for you.

www.vehicletrackingexperts.co.uk

 

[Officer Dibble]

Not noticed this being reported but living nearby Police have had two police dogs on site yesterday Tuesday and today. You must draw your own conclusion about what type of dogs would be brought into a house at this stage.

Oh that is interesting!

 

[Kinners_D]

No, an app cannot do this. (I'm an app developer with approx 10 years working with android)

I was pretty sure this was the case, thank you for answering!

 

[Miss_French]

I've been following the discussion for sometime and it crossed my mind that maybe Leah did not turn off her location settings. Maybe they were jammed. Leah may have entered a vehicle or location with a gps jammer deliberately placed within the environment? Maybe, if it was a vehicle, it was part of a fleet of corporate, diplomatic, government vehicles. The driver would have to then mask their location? Article below explains...

What is Vehicle Tracking & Why Should You do it in 2022?

Learn more about how vehicle tracking & fleet management systems can benefit your business, and find out how to choose the right one for you.

www.vehicletrackingexperts.co.uk

Leah's family have said nothing unusual about her evening on 14th Feb. She wasn't delayed getting home from work. How and why do you think the Government are involved?

 

[pedronz06]

I was pretty sure this was the case, thank you for answering!

Google's API wouldn't permit it, and any app would probably only take you to the global location setting page for you turn it off manually and that's only if Google permit it in their terms and conditions otherwise the app would be removed from the playstore.

 

[Lacommisaria]

Leah's family have said nothing unusual about her evening on 14th Feb. She wasn't delayed getting home from work. How and why do you think the Government are involved?

'Maybe, if it was a vehicle, it was part of a fleet of corporate, diplomatic, government vehicles' Maybe I should have added here 'for instance'.

I don't think the Government are involved but presumably they do use vehicles with jammers in for protection - I would think? I would imagine that some military vehicles for the same reason?

So you could have a vehicle with...

A. jammer deliberately and illegally placed within the vehicle to mask the vehicles location?
or
B A vehicle which has jammer technology integral to its design for protection but also interferes within the GPS settings?

Either way, any of the above could have been driven by a malevolent individual acting on their own accord. Not part of any organisation?

Maybe on the 14th of Feb Leah took a taxi or walked to meet someone? She did not enter a vehicle or environment which interfered with the GPS on her phone?
She may have met with someone on 14th who did not wish her harm? The killer may not have been free to meet that night?

 

[BrianJohnson]

I know it has been discussed in detail here before re convicted rapist Joseph Mcann. It is known he abducted and raped his victims using a car, one of which appears to be a 'shiny black car', then taking them to different and it appears random addresses.
There was a report of a witness describing a man in a black car 'pushing' his passenger down in the seat.
Although JMs attacks were reported as starting April 2019, he is known to have been 'free' in Feb 19 and not a million miles from the area.
Am wondering if the suggestion NM had traveller connections if there would possibly be a link here? JMO.

Unless he was wearing a wig it is not McCann in that car, the witness to the car said the driver had a mop of hair, McCann had a shaved head