Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #4 *ARREST*

[Griffinlay]

Of course they have tracked it down.

And found what?

 

[Ched]

So the only exit from Haworth st (cctv parked car) is onto Cottingham road ? What cctv cameras are likely to be in that location ?

 

[mrjitty]

The real game in town is where did she get out of the car

 

[Sera]

Without wishing to be pernickity I think we only know that his sister SAID he said that, unless I've missed it (quite possible) we don't know when this was said and directly to whom

JMO

He obviously told her this (if he did actually tell her this) before he was arrested - what a weird thing to say on the phone to your sister in a different country. Was he beginning to panic that the press had started to broadcast the disappearance and brought it up in conversation in case his family heard about it and mentioned it to him - like "Hey, did you know a girl has gone missing round the corner from you?". Or does he call her frequently and they normally discuss every detail of their day? Who knows, who even knows if he really did say anything to his sister - but if he didn't, I seriously cannot understand why she'd make it up and go to the press with it.

 

[User1111]

Hull Daily
Police searching Raglan Street
Police officers have been seen entering a house in Raglan Street with rope and helmets.

Why would they need rope and helmets to search inside a house?? Removing flooring of the loft?

 

[Spyder84]

Now knowing the charges, I wonder whether the whole illegal taxiing thing was something he told people he was doing to cover what he ways _actually_ doing?
*shudder*

It would certainly be a convenient back up story to explain the goods he was bringing home, the cash he was stealing, also if something looked used or second hand, he could say a passenger left it in his cab..

On another note I wonder if he flashed LS and thats what caused her to become upset? To be the victim of that can cause all kinds of emotions, for me it was anger, later it was disbelief and even some humour, in the days that followed hurt and upset, everyone reacts differently but could that be the case here especially given LS age? Also what the sister said should be taken with a hefty dose of salt... She simply picked up on the bearded man story from earlier in the investigation, I think the sister was trying to defend her brother without knowing any of the facts so she decided to cover all angles in the press

 

[Elainera]

That is not evidence it is hearsay.

Well, in honesty, we only have HER word for that. And she could just as easily said it to somehow feel she was protecting him.

Surely police will have interviewed her and taken her statement which can be used as evidence.

Well he is off the streets for now at least

For how long though? If he's found guilty on the current charges what's the sentence we can expect here?

 

[margarita25]

If SA was his motive, then he would need to park the car in a secluded place in order to assault her (or take her to an abandoned location), so locating the secondary crime scene is obviously of value. It may or may not be the same as the disposal site (but very well could be, imo).

Wondering about abandoned properties he may know of.

How long has he lived in the area?

-/-

Could the disposal site be somehow related to his job, on the way or near there, maybe wherever they discard animal carcasses, (incinerator?) etc...I’m sure you guys have already discussed this..sorry I’m late to Libby’s thread, going back to read now.

 

[HayLouise]

Searches are continuing at Oak Road Playing Fields to find missing #Hull student Libby Squire.


Officers are using chainsaws and rakes to bring down overgrown bushes #HelpFindLibby

Natalie Bell on Twitter

(Video at link)

 

[mrjitty]

And found what?

You are moving the goalposts.

Why would they release that information until they charge?

 

[JosieJo]

Where is the evidence. LE would have tracked the cobweb car on cctv. That is not even PR car and the person in video is not him. The recording was not released by LE but the media. If that video showed what you say it would not be in public domain unless LE was asking public to come forward with information regarding it. Did they do that? No. Why? Because they already knew it was not PR.

It is odd that this CCTV was released by press .. I'm suprised the police did not put out a direct appeal to find the cyclist and second car driver .. normally they would not go into detail of the suspect just show info regards the people they wanted to speak to

 

[wtiger]

would say this could be considered valuable witness information and testimony, but I’m not a Lawyer, maybe it could be considered hearsay?

This depends upon a couple of things...

1 - who is the "witness"
Something said by PR to his sister would be witness evidence from her....but from anyone else it would be hearsay as it was allegedly said to a third party.

2..this is assuming that he would admit to having said anything to his sister - and if i was legally advising him.then he would definitely not be admitting to doing so.

The chances of his sister giving evidence against him is pretty much nil and in any case,there is a good chance that she would say that she "made it up"..... in which case she would make a dangerous witness to call

 

[skythebest]

He seems deeply disturbed individual and I think he didn’t want marriage or kids as all his crime seems to happen around big changes in his life. ( the crimes we know through MSM)

 

[flowerpot]

Wow! Just caught up on the thread and re: the charges brought..OMG!! A previous article/post (sorry I can’t find it again now) said he’d moved to Raglan St in Nov 2017 so he pretty much started offending straight away! I think I read they’d moved from York...another uni city...wonder what went on there??

Just a thought...wonder if he uses a ‘sat nav’ or google maps etc on his phone to scope out his targets and that’s how Libby’s postcode/address ended up in there? Especially given that’s where he’s accused of masturbating in public. I said on my first post I thought he’d been stalking her/trying to befriend her...wonder if it was Libby who reported that incident or one of her housemates and that’s why her friends were referred to as returning home to family?? I also wonder if that’s why the police responded so quickly to her missing?? So many questions!

 

[Ched]

He obviously told her this (if he did actually tell her this) before he was arrested - what a weird thing to say on the phone to your sister in a different country. Was he beginning to panic that the press had started to broadcast the disappearance and brought it up in conversation in case his family heard about it and mentioned it to him - like "Hey, did you know a girl has gone missing round the corner from you?". Or does he call her frequently and they normally discuss every detail of their day? Who knows, who even knows if he really did say anything to his sister - but if he didn't, I seriously cannot understand why she'd make it up and go to the press with it.

We don’t know his sister is in a different country ? Do we ??

 

[Ruthbullock]

Do we know how drunk L actually was on the night she went missing? She was refused entry to the club - did some of the papers not say that her friends put her in a taxi? Would she have to be very drunk for the club to refuse entry? I'm thinking if she was very drunk and incapable, would one of her friends not gone in the taxi with her to make sure she got home safely - this makes me think that she wasn't too drunk but she was drunk enough for the club to say she couldn't get in. Did someone say that some fellow students had seen her after she got out of the taxi?

It’s an assumption she was really drunk. Ive had friends who were virtually sober turned away from clubs as they stumbled coming up the steps or just sounded annoying. Usually happens when the club is nearing capacity and they hope by turning one away everyone will leave, which we usually do. Although one occasion my friend went outside for a cigarette, they decided to not allow her back in and none of us knew as we were all inside. As her friends put her in the taxi after she was refused entry she wasn’t alone at that point- but I’m not sure anyone has outright said she was too drunk for entry to the club (and I struggle to believe if she was that drunk, everyone went in and left her alone).

 

[Amonet]

I hope I am wrong but they have questioned him for days, searched his house with SOCO, done the same with his car, reviewed hundreds of hours of cctv and had hundreds of calls from the public. All that and he gets charged with stealing sex toys. It doesn’t make sense.

They're still investigating what happened to Libby. Why make charges and have to hand over evidence to his solicitors now when they can keep looking for Libby and any other related evidence, hold him on these charges for a month, and then hopefully bring charges related to Libby's disappearance when they have a much better case with more evidence?

 

[MancGuy Uk]

Surely police will have interviewed her and taken her statement which can be used as evidence.



For how long though? If he's found guilty on the current charges what's the sentence we can expect here?

That’s a good question how long would he be in prison? It would be for at least a few good years but sometimes our justice system can be very kind

 

[Ruthbullock]

It is worth mentioning that the type of questioning he will have undergone here is very very different to the kind he would receive in poland.

If he has been properly advised then the police have no chance of getting anything from him.

I agree with the people who think that he is likely to be working alone.
Sex offending is rarely a team exercise , only a small amount of cases where more than one man was involved.
This of course is a function of the element of power in this type of offence.
A man who commits this kind of offence wants to feel the power of being in total control....introduce another man into that equation and some of the power seeps away.

I would not be thinking accomplice here.

I also think that the reason his wife was so little involved in the investigation is simply that due to childcare arrangements, i think that they probably worked opposing shifts to one another.
This would mean that she was probably working at the time of the incident...thus being unable to give anything useful.

Certainly more to come with this chap i reckon

No idea where I read it now- but his wife is currently on maternity leave from work.

 

[wtiger]

I would be willing to wager that most of these charges will be left to lie on file by the time of his starring role at Hull crown court....
I have a feeling that he might have more serious things to worry about by then

 

[mrjitty]

He obviously told her this (if he did actually tell her this) before he was arrested - what a weird thing to say on the phone to your sister in a different country. Was he beginning to panic that the press had started to broadcast the disappearance and brought it up in conversation in case his family heard about it and mentioned it to him - like "Hey, did you know a girl has gone missing round the corner from you?". Or does he call her frequently and they normally discuss every detail of their day? Who knows, who even knows if he really did say anything to his sister - but if he didn't, I seriously cannot understand why she'd make it up and go to the press with it.

Just as an aside, when families have a crisis that exposes them to media, it is common for one family member to take responsibility as a spokesperson.

In this situation with low english skills, i am not surprised that the wife is not heard from, but rather the sister / mother.