Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #4 *ARREST*

[Chester]

That sounds like very out of it indeed. In fact too much so. I wonder how much she had had to drink earlier in the evening to put her in that state, whether drugs had been involved, or even if her drink had been spiked. If those she was with were deemed sober enough to be allowed entry to the club, it makes you wonder how she got in that condition.

I said exactly the same thing several days ago and was shot down in flames by 'experts' who had no experience of either drugging or spiking.

 

[Ched]

Just a wild though regarding the cctv : we don’t see all of it , I believe we were told in some of the missing bit he was smoking .... but what if he was masterbating and that’s why we don’t see the clip

 

[margarita25]

Delete

 

[Chester]

Just a wild though regarding the cctv : we don’t see all of it , I believe we were told in some of the missing bit he was smoking .... but what if he was masterbating and that’s why we don’t see the clip

Possible but unlikely.

To qualify for the Outraging Public Decency charge he would need an audience.

 

[wtiger]

It is worth mentioning that the type of questioning he will have undergone here is very very different to the kind he would receive in poland.

If he has been properly advised then the police have no chance of getting anything from him.

I agree with the people who think that he is likely to be working alone.
Sex offending is rarely a team exercise , only a small amount of cases where more than one man was involved.
This of course is a function of the element of power in this type of offence.
A man who commits this kind of offence wants to feel the power of being in total control....introduce another man into that equation and some of the power seeps away.

I would not be thinking accomplice here.

I also think that the reason his wife was so little involved in the investigation is simply that due to childcare arrangements, i think that they probably worked opposing shifts to one another.
This would mean that she was probably working at the time of the incident...thus being unable to give anything useful.

Certainly more to come with this chap i reckon

 

[RJ57]

I can hear the helicopter again.

 

[jamjim]

10:05
Magistrate arrives in court
The magistrates have arrived and the session in court two is now under way.
There are more than 20 members of the press and public in the courtroom.

 

[Ched]

Possible but unlikely.

To qualify for the Outraging Public Decency charge he would need an audience.

I wasn’t referring to the charge , just the possibility that was what he was doing in the missing footage .... getting a thrill of doing it in an open place etc

 

[OrlandoJames]

That sounds like very out of it indeed. In fact too much so. I wonder how much she had had to drink earlier in the evening to put her in that state, whether drugs had been involved, or even if her drink had been spiked. If those she was with were deemed sober enough to be allowed entry to the club, it makes you wonder how she got in that condition.

Probably by drinking too much too quickly. A group of people out together for the same length of time will drink at different speeds - varying levels of drunkenness will be the result. The amount of food consumed by each will also be a factor.

I read somewhere recently that loads of people are turning up to A&E these days claiming their drinks have been spiked. When the doctors test them for drugs, the vast majority show up negative - the people are just very drunk. Such is the fear of drinks being spiked that many people apparently convince themselves that it has happened to them when in fact they've just drunk too much.

 

[Ched]

It is worth mentioning that the type of questioning he will have undergone here is very very different to the kind he would receive in poland.

If he has been properly advised then the police have no chance of getting anything from him.

I agree with the people who think that he is likely to be working alone.
Sex offending is rarely a team exercise , only a small amount of cases where more than one man was involved.
This of course is a function of the element of power in this type of offence.
A man who commits this kind of offence wants to feel the power of being in total control....introduce another man into that equation and some of the power seeps away.

I would not be thinking accomplice here.

I also think that the reason his wife was so little involved in the investigation is simply that due to childcare arrangements, i think that they probably worked opposing shifts to one another.
This would mean that she was probably working at the time of the incident...thus being unable to give anything useful.

Certainly more to come with this chap i reckon

I think it said she was on maternity leave

 

[HayLouise]

10:01



Media photographing arrivals at court

10:02

Police at court



10:05

Magistrate arrives in court

The magistrates have arrived and the session in court two is now under way.

There are more than 20 members of the press and public in the courtroom.


Live as Pawel Relowicz makes first appearance in court

 

[margarita25]

Missing for 11 days: Libby Squire has united Hull in hope and in heartbreak

“Her disappearance has sent shockwaves across Hull and left people from all over the globe praying for her safe return.”

The front door of the house at the centre of police searches in Raglan Street has been boarded up with a metal sheet (Image: HullLive)

 

[Chester]

I wasn’t referring to the charge , just the possibility that was what he was doing in the missing footage .... getting a thrill of doing it in an open place etc

Ah, sorry I get you.

Yes, then, that's definitely an option.

 

[Chester]

Probably by drinking too much too quickly. A group of people out together for the same length of time will drink at different speeds - varying levels of drunkenness will be the result. The amount of food consumed by each will also be a factor.

I read somewhere recently that loads of people are turning up to A&E these days claiming their drinks have been spiked. When the doctors test them for drugs, the vast majority show up negative - the people are just very drunk. Such is the fear of drinks being spiked that many people apparently convince themselves that it has happened to them when in fact they've just drunk too much.

Shot culture does make this a lot more common.

Drinking spirits with mixers also a factor, especially when drinking doubles instead of singles. Hard to keep track and pace the drinking.

 

[Ched]

Ah, sorry I get you.

Yes, then, that's definitely an option.

I presume IF he was they couldn’t broadcast that in media because of the type of behaviour and would be laws about broadcasting that

 

[Wendywoo]

He will appear in Magistrates Court this morning, this is purely an administrative step. There are no Judges in this low level in the Court System. They will schedule an appearance in Crown Court probably in about a weeks time. He will either be bailed or remanded in custody.

Unless he makes the highly unusual decision to enter a guilty plea at Crown Court a trial will be scheduled at some point in the future. At that stage the date is unlikely to be agreed.

It would be very difficult to get any more time to question him if the full 96 hours have been used up.

I have a feeling he will be remanded in custody

 

[Chester]

I presume IF he was they couldn’t broadcast that in media because of the type of behaviour and would be laws about broadcasting that

Exactly

 

[Chester]

I have a feeling he will be remanded in custody

I think he will be bailed.

 

[LibraryGirl]

Still don’t understand why she would leave her phone at home doesn’t make sense

It's possible that Libby left her purse at home by accident. It's easily done if you've been pre-drinking with your friends and then you all jump in a taxi to the club. It would explain why she didn't go inside her house when the taxi dropped her off at home - she had left her keys at home with her phone? And maybe that's why she was crying on the bench, she had no way to contact her friends, she couldn't enter her house, she was cold and alone, possibly no money left for a taxi. Poor Libby
She may have explained her situation to PR, and perhaps he told her she could call her friends from his mobile phone, and offered that he would drive her to her house to wait for them in his car? It would explain her address being in the satnav - but we just don't know what happened next.

 

[HayLouise]

10:14

The offences Pawel Relowicz is charged with
The 24-year-old has been charged with voyeurism, outraging public decency and three counts of burglaries.

Voyeurism is defined as ‘for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, he observes another person doing a private act and knows that the other person does not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification’.

Outraging public decency is defined as ‘carrying out an act which is lewd, obscene or disgusting in character which outrages minimum standards of public decency’. It ‘must take place in the actual presence of two or more persons who are capable of seeing it’.

Burglary is definied as entering a building as a trespasser with intent to commit an offence.

Live as Pawel Relowicz makes first appearance in court