Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #5 *ARREST*

[cluciano63]

Hoping the taxi driver and gray-bearded man can both be left alone now...especially seeing as police ruled them out last week...jmo

 

[Curiousobserver]

I'd be torn to be perfectly honest. Especially when I was 21 and invincible - way before I learned hard life lessons, heard about awful stories like this or joined Websleuths!

Big group night out, everyone's together and buzzing and going clubbing, and one person is so hammered they can't get in. Does one person go home and put the drunk one to bed and then sit around annoyed that the night got cut short? Or do they decide to put drunk mate in a cab, probably ask them to text when they're home, possibly give the taxi driver the address, feeling like they've taken the best, safest option?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I tell both my daughters this: You can't make decisions with information you don't have...and there is certain information you don't have when you're 20 that you do have when you're 50.

Sometimes they actually listen all the way through that speech as well

 

[PaddyOreally?]

She doesn't look that drunk in the video to me, just looks a bit slippy on the ice

 

[Ched]

Libby Squire last confirmed sighting caught on CCTV

Libby Squires' last confirmed sighting caught on CCTV as she stumbles towards Hull nightclub | Daily Mail Online

Wow so that only got published at 1pm today , I wonder if that had to have police go ahead to release that ?

 

[flowerpot]

Libby Squire last confirmed sighting caught on CCTV

Libby Squires' last confirmed sighting caught on CCTV as she stumbles towards Hull nightclub | Daily Mail Online

Finally!! Thanks for posting!

Welly/Taxi riddle solved!
One thing...in that footage it appears to me she reaches into her pocket for something that she then seems to hold in front of her as she’s walking...does she have her phone?? Can anyone else see that or is it just me??

 

[Miss_French]

I've been following this thread for a couple of days.

I live somewhere between the Welly Club on Beverley Road and Raglan Street/Newland Avenue.

I've lived around this area for 20 or so years and know the area well. I'm a cyclist and a photographer, so I do get in the nooks and craneys of the city, often at night as well. I know Beresford Park area well, and that area of the river and the drain.

There's a lot about this case that makes no sense, and mostly it is linked to timings.

There is so much that doesn't make sense, I wondered if the Police were doing that on purpose to wrong-foot someone who they thought was till at large?

Things I don't get;
1 - Why her mother was so bombastic about her getting home. I believe the Police agreed with her afterwards. DID the mother accidentally give away info the Police had given her that she wasn't meant to make public?

2 - Her journey home from the nightclub. Police are insistent she gets 'home' at 11:29. Did I read that was from the taxi confirming the drop off on it's computer? But then why can't they confirm the pick up? There is a taxi rank close to Welly, so it's probable that the taxi was parked up outside as they often are, or perhaps he had just dropped off?

Regardless, and I know they qualify the pick up time as 'around 11pm' but to claim that the journey took 29 minutes is insane. It's 4-5 minutes at the most. It's a mile, and a little bit maybe, late night, one or two traffic lights junctions.

Does that mean that shes/they were so drunk it took them 15 minutes to get her in a taxi? Why does the taxi firm not provide a definitive fair start?

3 - Being turned away from Welly. Was it the bouncers or her friends who helped her into the taxi that 'confirmed' the approx time of 11am?

This batch of 'friends' bothers me a little. (And not for the reasons of 'abandoning' their friend). One of her 'best friends' spoke to the media a few days ago - I recall him saying 2 things of interest - 1) that she often went out without her phone and 2) the last time HE saw her was at a house party, they all left in groups to go to Well, when he got into Welly he heard that she hadn't got in.

So have we heard from any of the actual friends who physically put her in the taxi? Or have we heard from any of the bouncers that they remember turning her away?

AND if her other friends did bundle her into the taxi, did they know, as he suggest they might, that she didn't have her phone or keys on her?

So that raises the question that I've seen raised here, did she have her keys and phone and txt her mum when she got home... i.e. the end of the taxi ride, but not necessarily inside her house.

We also don't know the make up of the shared house - it could be one with a communal front door and separate flats, in which case she could have entered the front door into the hall but not got into her room because she didn't have her key?

Her sitting on the bench suggests two possibilities to me;
1 - she did not have her keys/phone and was drunk/upset/disorientated and so went to sit on the bench?
or
2 - she made it home, and went out to meet someone

The report I read early on stated that the Police removed her phone from her room not just from the property - but it's unclear if that was a media mash.

Anyway, sorry about the long ramble post, didn't mean to go on so much!

This has got people around here gripped, and not in a pleasant way.

Friend Amelia Cummins spoke to the press as she put Libby into the taxi. Maybe she wasn't sure of the time, maybe Libby said she was fine or was a bit pissed off at having to leave and was abrupt and the friend got annoyed too. Taxi driver isn't a suspect so I don't think the departure time from the club is important. It's what happened after Libby got home. And I don't see her mother being 'bombastic', she was responding in writing to a query on Facebook.

Friend Lauren Goodman said Libby always let someone know she was safely home; this suggests Libby has previously gone home on her own, though we don't know if that was her being sensible/bored/drunk.

 

[Miss_French]

Can someone clarify exactly this for me please from media quotes

They all get to club , some go to get money ? Some must go in club ? Who puts her in taxi ? They get back from getting money and she’s already in taxi ?

I’m really not sure of the actual facts that happened at club address

A female friend named Amelia Cummins put Libby in the taxi.

 

[Ched]

Finally!! Thanks for posting!

Welly/Taxi riddle solved!
One thing...in that footage it appears to me she reaches into her pocket for something that she then seems to hold in front of her as she’s walking...does she have her phone?? Can anyone else see that or us if just me??

I thought she got something out of pocket too .... (she wouldn’t have a second cheap phone with her would she to take out on drinking nights ? Could be she’s getting cash out to pay ? )

 

[suzyjackson]

Deleted, answered my own question

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Finally!! Thanks for posting!

Welly/Taxi riddle solved!
One thing...in that footage it appears to me she reaches into her pocket for something that she then seems to hold in front of her as she’s walking...does she have her phone?? Can anyone else see that or us if just me??

At the very start as she walks past the camera I must say it does look like she takes a something out of her right pocket and put it up to her right ear!?

Not sure what to make of that....

 

[Ryuk]

To clear up the taxi questions.

The police have spoken to the driver. This clears up two things. 1. it waas a licenced driver with an enhanced DBS check certificate and 2. The police know exactly when she got in the cab. The media however, may not yet be privy to this information.

Having done the journey many times at night time taking inebriated students back to that area, I agree with @Strontium69 that it should take no more than 5 minutes.

 

[PaddyOreally?]

Finally!! Thanks for posting!

Welly/Taxi riddle solved!
One thing...in that footage it appears to me she reaches into her pocket for something that she then seems to hold in front of her as she’s walking...does she have her phone?? Can anyone else see that or us if just me??

iD maybe?

 

[PaddyOreally?]

Wow so that only got published at 1pm today , I wonder if that had to have police go ahead to release that ?

I think it's weird the police must have know she left the Welly at 11.18 and haven't updated their timeline? Anything of use seems to have come from the press.

 

[PeachUK]

I was confused by what his mum said here - surely even if they found the money, he’d not have been bailed, would he?

'I so want to see Pawel to find out what has been going on. I want to go to England, but do not have the money', she said.
'I was told by my daughter we had to get £2,000 for bail money but we do not even have those means. I do not have that money.'

Libby Squires' last confirmed sighting caught on CCTV as she stumbles towards Hull nightclub | Daily Mail Online

 

[Miss_French]

Did someone say they were at a house party before heading to the club? Is it possible someone put something in her drink at the party that could have contributed to her being refused entry to the club.

It's cheaper to have a 'bring a bottle' party and pre-load on alcohol at home before going out and paying nightclub prices!

 

[Ryuk]

Looking from the party angle, it is entirely possible that somebody dropped something in her drink with the intention of taking advantage of her later on. Have they accounted for every member of this house party? I doubt it

 

[aworldofmadness]

She doesn't look that drunk in the video to me, just looks a bit slippy on the ice

Yeah, I agree. Looks like many people slip on the ice in the video. She doesn't look all that stumbly to me.

 

[Steve0000]

Wow so that only got published at 1pm today , I wonder if that had to have police go ahead to release that ?

Unlikely. You can record public areas as much as you want and the police can't restrict that, it's your footage to do as you please. The media probably paid them for the footage.

 

[Atoz]

Am at work so will be brief. Just seen article in a trashy newspaper that states he performed a sex act on Libbys street 12 days before her disappearance.

Also that one of the burglaries was a student household on the weekend before her disappearance.

And that another burglary was also a student household, just yards from his house in which he stole more sex toys.

I hadn't seen confirmation that it was all student households before.

Tried to upload picture of article but file too large. It's in the daily star. (I do not buy this paper, it was in the sandwich shop so i had a look!)

 

[flowerpot]

At the very start as she walks past the camera I must say it does look like she takes a something out of her right pocket and put it up to her right ear!?

Not sure what to make of that....

Yes, that’s what I saw...at 0.07 at the start she appears to flick her hair & put something up to her ear, very much what I would do if answering my phone. Then later at o.12 I think she appears to take a phone out of her pocket, I think around 0.13/14 you can see her holding it out in front of her as would when walking with your phone/dialling or answering a call??