Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #5 *ARREST*

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  • #661
is there definitely cctv that would show the bench area ? sorry if this has been discussed before i was under the impression she was seen by a bus cctv.
Possibly...
 
  • #662
On street view it's the one that has a red kitchen bin in front of the house, at the side of the wheelie bin
I've just checked and it's number 24
 
  • #663
It would have been to the left of the car. It was really close. Someone on here posted a good picture not to far back with the bench in relation to the car

Ah, thank you. I thought it was to the right and was trying to figure out why the male always appeared from the left, this now makes sense.

So the car that leaves the one way first either lived down there or was over the road at the shops. If the latter they would have seen LS when crossing back over the road, I'm guessing they could have confirmed the last sighting. That person in any case disrupted the male and made him retreat to his vehicle, why he suddenly reappeared to roll a cigarette not long after locking his car. I'm not sure that person leaving in the first vehicle will have noticed that male because nothing out of the ordinary was happening if they exited out of a house and their vehicle was at the kerb side they'd have been out their door head down so to speak, straight in car and off.

All the CCTV and ANPR we have and people can still vanish.

Police are working hard to find the poor lass but I'm not sure if there isn't someone out there not yet been arrested.
 
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Trying to help us decipher if it is PRs car...

Looking at where it is parked. I think he's coming from the wrong direction from his house if it is his car. Plus it's actually parked quite far away from his road...

Could he have gone to the shop for tobacco and spotted Libby? Maybe even the guy trying to help her and Libby refusing so he though he might approach her?
 
  • #666
I've just checked and it's number 24

Guys.....I think between you, you are mixing up PRs house and Libby's.

Although it is starting to get so confusing with so few confirmed (Police) facts
 
  • #667
(O/T, I’m behind here but wanted to note an episode of Forensic Files “Calculated Coincidence” (S13 Ep15) that I’m just seeing. It appears to be about the murder of a female, 23 year old Stephanie Bennett, NC. A collection of women’s underwear was found in the bushes by her apartment; these garments did not belong to the victim. Sounds like another Russell Williams type case, which of course reminded of Libby’s case at hand.

The victim also said she was afraid because of a window peeper who had been frequenting the neighborhood.

ETA:
Seems he burglarized items and planted camera : must read article )
Bennett Murder Investigation Far From Over :: WRAL.com
2005 )
 
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On the Daily Mail site on the page about Libby published today the video that pops up automatically in the right hand corner is much longer and better quality than their YouTube posting which looks like a journalist has filmed it playing back on a TV on their iPhone in order to get it onto the web quickly. Is there a proper source of the pop up video? When you pause the pop up the picture is covered with sharing icons.
 
  • #669
Agree - clearer footage = much more unsteady than original
Can anyone say for definite what number Libby lived at ? There’s photos with and without hedge

It’s never been confirmed. My theory is that hers is number 32, the one with the doorway that is concealed with a hedge and that MSN showed photos of her parents entering/ exiting. I think number 17, the one with the large glass porch is possibly a doorway in which P. has been seen leering/ flashing
 
  • #670
He was away the weekend after Libby went missing so even of they went knocking for cctv he wasn't there.

I do agree that of was my daughter of want every bit of cctv footage available however I have faith in the police that they know what they are doing.

What did you learn from that clip? She was drunk, she didn't get in the club, she got in a taxi, a silver Astra that may or not be PR drove past at normal speed not appearing to be stalking anyone so probably just an innocent person driving by.

We've gone from a chance abduction to her now being stalked and followed with nothing to prove that (That we know of).

Think we can agree to disagree.

I trust the police to be way more in the know than any of us and so they should be.

And the guy who gave the cctv to the daily mail? Found him tacky, there's a girl missing probably no longer alive! The whole world did not need to see her stumbling her way to a club...and the photo of him outside his premises with the sign showing (nice bit of free advertising) I find it disrespectful.
Actually we learned that she got in the taxi at 11.18 so that cleared up the mystery behind, what was she doing in the taxi for 30 minutes questions. And that may help the police with their timeline because I'm sure before they thought she left the club at 11.

I do agree about the guy though. He should have just given it to the police without trying to advertise his business off the footage. Makes you wonder if he just kept the footage to himself thinking he'd get more money for it if time had passed.
 
  • #671
It says no 15 on thread one and there’s no hedge around door police were testing , im still not sure which is hers

Doesn't matter really for what I am thinking. Probably miles out, but I am feeling there may be a lot of red herrings in this case that could all connect, but that the truth may be far simpler and closer to home.
 
  • #672
Well, sadly depends what you mean by 'experience' in crime.

[…]

tldr: Hull has had this kind of thing coming for a couple of years...

Just to say, I live in east hull, not that far over the River Hull and agree with all of what you've written. This ghettoization and the changing nature and seriousness of crime that follows it is well noted. I've begun to see early signs of it close by here too, so it's not like a tsunami shifting across in one direction. It begins in pockets and ripples outwards, although the bits of the city in question here are undoubtedly some of the starkest.
 
  • #673
Actually we learned that she got in the taxi at 11.18 so that cleared up the mystery behind, what was she doing in the taxi for 30 minutes questions. And that may help the police with their timeline because I'm sure before they thought she left the club at 11.

I do agree about the guy though. He should have just given it to the police without trying to advertise his business off the footage. Makes you wonder if he just kept the footage to himself thinking he'd get more money for it if time had passed.

I'd imagine police got the exact time from the Welly CCTV anyway.

It's her friends that said she left about 11ish isn't it?
 
  • #674
Thought this whosevers shop he went into that night if he did to buy tobacco might be able to recognise him from that cctv if it was local especially

Trying to help us decipher if it is PRs car...

Looking at where it is parked. I think he's coming from the wrong direction from his house if it is his car. Plus it's actually parked quite far away from his road...

Could he have gone to the shop for tobacco and spotted Libby? Maybe even the guy trying to help her and Libby refusing so he though he might approach her?[/QUO
 
  • #675
Actually we learned that she got in the taxi at 11.18 so that cleared up the mystery behind, what was she doing in the taxi for 30 minutes questions. And that may help the police with their timeline because I'm sure before they thought she left the club at 11.

I do agree about the guy though. He should have just given it to the police without trying to advertise his business off the footage. Makes you wonder if he just kept the footage to himself thinking he'd get more money for it if time had passed.

That’s interesting I seen that on the DM article apparently it’s 2 miles from that club to her house how long would that journey take 15-20 minutes?
 
  • #676
That’s interesting I seen that on the DM article apparently it’s 2 miles from that club to her house how long would that journey take 15-20 minutes?
On Google maps it says it takes about 5 minutes I think
 
  • #677
Doesn't matter really for what I am thinking. Probably miles out, but I am feeling there may be a lot of red herrings in this case that could all connect, but that the truth may be far simpler and closer to home.
I keep thinking it has to be simpler, keep going round in circles with myself over complicating things! I’m interested to hear why you think it might be closer to home...please would you share your thoughts??
 
  • #678
That’s interesting I seen that on the DM article apparently it’s 2 miles from that club to her house how long would that journey take 15-20 minutes?

It's 1.3 miles and it would take five minutes by car.
 
  • #679
On street view it's the one that has a red kitchen bin in front of the house, at the side of the wheelie bin

Can’t see it sorry
 
  • #680
Has anything been mentioned if libby has a boyfriend of ex boyfriend, was she happy single? We know very little about the girl really,
 
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