Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #6 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 238128]

This is a bike video of me going along the river side path from the south of the main search area from a few years ago. Gives you some more idea of the scale and accessibility of the area.

Only really of interest to give an idea of the area the Police have been searching, I don't think any of this is relevant if he's staying with his car, or having to carry something heavy.

If a person was spiked, and compliant, and was able to walk for themselves, then you can see the huge and difficult area to search.

Skip to 3:11 leave the footpath/road at Stoneferry Bridge, turn left onto the West bank of the river, heading North, towards Oak Road/Beresford Park.

Skip to 8:00ish - passing the Croda plant on the left...

Ends as I get to the wind turbine.

That wind turbine really bothers me. I’m not even sure why.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Maybe she got in the car to drive to work (if she’s on standard maternity leave she would be due to start back around now) .

Baby was born in October, he's 4 months old today in fact. Standard maternity leave is still 9-12 months, isn't it?

 

[Ched]

I’m trying to decide if it’s interesting that he said “one man has been arrested” instead of “A man has been arrested...”

oooh any English Language experts in here , interesting observation

 

[Joolz1975]

I’m trying to decide if it’s interesting that he said “one man has been arrested” instead of “A man has been arrested...”

Didn't pick up on that at all so well done.

I've thought all along he may have had help.

Not with the abduction but with clearing up whatever has happened after.

Be interesting to see if any other cars turned up at the park that night she could have been put in another car.

 

[Hatfield]

This is a bike video of me going along the river side path from the south of the main search area from a few years ago. Gives you some more idea of the scale and accessibility of the area.

Only really of interest to give an idea of the area the Police have been searching, I don't think any of this is relevant if he's staying with his car, or having to carry something heavy.

If a person was spiked, and compliant, and was able to walk for themselves, then you can see the huge and difficult area to search.

Skip to 3:11 leave the footpath/road at Stoneferry Bridge, turn left onto the West bank of the river, heading North, towards Oak Road/Beresford Park.

Skip to 8:00ish - passing the Croda plant on the left...

Ends as I get to the wind turbine.

Ive really enjoyed learning new UK terms and some UK slang which really helps here in this case and it may come in handy in future cases too.

The one word I have seen come up a few times now which I am not sure of its meaning is
"spiked"?

Would you be so kind to explain what "spiked" means in the way its used?

I was taking guesses to myself and the best guess I have is "drunk" or "drugged" but I am not totally sure if that is correct.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Ha - husband just asked what I was watching. "Just a man I don't know on a bike ride a few years ago somewhere around a park that I've never been to where a girl I also don't know might have vanished". He's looking at me strangely.

Happy Valentines, Mr Cags!!

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Ive really enjoyed learning new UK terms and some UK slang which really helps here in this case and it may come in handy in future cases too.

The one word I have seen come up a few times now which I am not sure of its meaning is
"spiked"?

Would you be so kind to explain what "spiked" means in the way its used?

I was taking guesses to myself and the best guess I have is "drunk" or "drugged" but I am not totally sure if that is correct.

Totally correct Hatfield, and so glad you're here! It means to be secretly drugged by someone else, most commonly something slipped in a drink in a bar/club. Anything else you need translating?

 

[Hatfield]

Ha - husband just asked what I was watching. "Just a man I don't know on a bike ride a few years ago somewhere around a park that I've never been to where a girl I also don't know might have vanished". He's looking at me strangely.

Happy Valentines, Mr Cags!!

LOL
At least you remembered it was Valentines Day. Whooops. I've been so ingrained in the WS cases today, I need to make a quick card on the computer before the Mrs. gets home

 

[flowerpot]

Ive really enjoyed learning new UK terms and some UK slang which really helps here in this case and it may come in handy in future cases too.

The one word I have seen come up a few times now which I am not sure of its meaning is
"spiked"?

Would you be so kind to explain what "spiked" means in the way its used?

I was taking guesses to myself and the best guess I have is "drunk" or "drugged" but I am not totally sure if that is correct.

So if you were in a bar you might have your drink ‘spiked’ in that someone has put something (usually a drug) into your drink without your knowing.
Hope that makes sense, I’m sure someone else can probably explain that more eloquently than me!

 

[Griffinlay]

PR was arrested on suspicion of abduction. While in custody other offences came to light. This probably happened when they ran his prints and DNA. He obviously is not a very clever criminal and his deviant tendencies probably overtook his thoughts so he broke into homes maybe on impulse, hence the lack of precautions leading to leaving the physical evidence.
Now if he did take LS this would also have been on impulse. He could not have planned for it as a set of circumstances were set in motion beyond his control.
LS was refused entry to the club. The friends let her go home alone. Instead of going into the house she wandered off. When offered assistance she refused.
PR could not have planned for any of this. How does a man who leaves prints and DNA when he usually gets his impulses, take a woman from under the nose of many witnesses and cctv? How was he then able to hide or dispose of this person, leaving not a shred of physical or forensic evidence. After 12.05 she literally VANISHES. How did he do it?

 

[cluciano63]

Baby was born in October, he's 4 months old today in fact. Standard maternity leave is still 9-12 months, isn't it?

Omg ha ha ha ha
(In America) sorry lost control there for a minute after looking up “maternity leave” as a concept...

 

[Ched]

Valentines Day ;
Somebody keeps sending me flowers with the heads cut off.

I think I'm being stalked..

LOL

 

[Joolz1975]

LOL
At least you remembered it was Valentines Day. Whooops. I've been so ingrained in the WS cases today, I need to make a quick card on the computer before the Mrs. gets home

Use my excuse if you like when I forgot hubbys card this morning.

'Sorry love , I ordered it off moonpig and it hasn't arrived in time'

 

[Hatfield]

Totally correct Hatfield, and so glad you're here! It means to be secretly drugged by someone else, most commonly something slipped in a drink in a bar/club. Anything else you need translating?

Thanks so much. That really helps. I'll let you know if I get stuck on any others.

btw - I love the UK slang on some words. Ive tried to make mental notes on some of them because I can see them coming in handy for personal use.

 

[Joolz1975]

PR was arrested on suspicion of abduction. While in custody other offences came to light. This probably happened when they ran his prints and DNA. He obviously is not a very clever criminal and his deviant tendencies probably overtook his thoughts so he broke into homes maybe on impulse, hence the lack of precautions leading to leaving the physical evidence.
Now if he did take LS this would also have been on impulse. He could not have planned for it as a set of circumstances were set in motion beyond his control.
LS was refused entry to the club. The friends let her go home alone. Instead of going into the house she wandered off. When offered assistance she refused.
PR could not have planned for any of this. How does a man who leaves prints and DNA when he usually gets his impulses, take a woman from under the nose of many witnesses and cctv? How was he then able to hide or dispose of this person, leaving not a shred of physical or forensic evidence. After 12.05 she literally VANISHES. How did he do it?

With help I'm thinking

 

[Ched]

PR was arrested on suspicion of abduction. While in custody other offences came to light. This probably happened when they ran his prints and DNA. He obviously is not a very clever criminal and his deviant tendencies probably overtook his thoughts so he broke into homes maybe on impulse, hence the lack of precautions leading to leaving the physical evidence.
Now if he did take LS this would also have been on impulse. He could not have planned for it as a set of circumstances were set in motion beyond his control.
LS was refused entry to the club. The friends let her go home alone. Instead of going into the house she wandered off. When offered assistance she refused.
PR could not have planned for any of this. How does a man who leaves prints and DNA when he usually gets his impulses, take a woman from under the nose of many witnesses and cctv? How was he then able to hide or dispose of this person, leaving not a shred of physical or forensic evidence. After 12.05 she literally VANISHES. How did he do it?

He’s innocent ..... ?

 

[alfiedug]

Ah okay, sorry. Thanks for correcting me. I actually remember reading those posts. Honestly, I was paying more attention to the movement in the car and the activity of the person/people on camera and trying to make some sense of what I could see.

The news channel said the car was there for 20 minutes i wonder how long smoking man was on camera in those 20 minutes.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I've only just caught up on all today's posts. I had been desperately hoping Libby would be found alive and well by now, at this stage and after an announcement she may have come to harm, that hope is fading. If there is someone else involved, is it possible they may have driven out of the area with Libby and she could be miles away?

 

[crazychris]

PR was arrested on suspicion of abduction. While in custody other offences came to light. This probably happened when they ran his prints and DNA. He obviously is not a very clever criminal and his deviant tendencies probably overtook his thoughts so he broke into homes maybe on impulse, hence the lack of precautions leading to leaving the physical evidence.
Now if he did take LS this would also have been on impulse. He could not have planned for it as a set of circumstances were set in motion beyond his control.
LS was refused entry to the club. The friends let her go home alone. Instead of going into the house she wandered off. When offered assistance she refused.
PR could not have planned for any of this. How does a man who leaves prints and DNA when he usually gets his impulses, take a woman from under the nose of many witnesses and cctv? How was he then able to hide or dispose of this person, leaving not a shred of physical or forensic evidence. After 12.05 she literally VANISHES. How did he do it?

Maybe he didn't but someone else did!

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Ive really enjoyed learning new UK terms and some UK slang which really helps here in this case and it may come in handy in future cases too.

The one word I have seen come up a few times now which I am not sure of its meaning is
"spiked"?

Would you be so kind to explain what "spiked" means in the way its used?

I was taking guesses to myself and the best guess I have is "drunk" or "drugged" but I am not totally sure if that is correct.

Yes I think you might call it a Micky Finn in the US? Or is that something else