GUILTY UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, found deceased, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #26

[Newthoughts]

Yeh I have read about him a few times. If I remember right he has never murdered an innocent man? They were all child sex offenders or murderers? It is ages since I read about him to be honest.

But yes I agree it feels very inhumane he never really stood a chance at life. Maybe they should let him share a cell with Ian Huntley or Mark Bridger.

Agree with what you've just said. Every word

 

[Dotta]

Agree with what you've just said. Every word

I googled Wakefield prison because of PR yesterday and read about this wretched man and his cell *in the bowels of Wakefield*. My God I was shaken! His place is in psychiatric Institution.

 

[Lincoln34]

Do you mean that good lawyers should defend only wealthy and influential clients and ordinary people have no right to decent defence? I think it is offensive to Defence lawyers to imply this. *Another world* indeed! All people are equal and all deserve respectful treatment. Besides lawyers take oath to help their clients to the best of their ability. They chose their career as defence lawyers to help any accused. Did anybody force PR's lawyer to take this case?

 

[Lincoln34]

Do you mean that good lawyers should defend only wealthy and influential clients and ordinary people have no right to decent defence? I think it is offensive to Defence lawyers to imply this. *Another world* indeed! All people are equal and all deserve respectful treatment. Besides lawyers take oath to help their clients to the best of their ability. They chose their career as defence lawyers to help any accused. Did anybody force PR's lawyer to take this case?

Frankly most defence barristers - and many act at times for both prosecution and defence- would love a case like this. Career profile.

 

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[Dotta]

Frankly most defence barristers - and many act at times for both prosecution and defence- would love a case like this. Career profile.

Can I ask - are a lawyer and a barrister synonymes?

 

[Cherwell]

Can I ask - are a lawyer and a barrister synonymes?

A barrister is a lawyer who appears in court to prosecute or defend cases.
Lawyer is a generic term which includes anyone qualified to practise law, eg a solicitor.

 

[Newthoughts]

Can I ask - are a lawyer and a barrister synonymes?

With the caveat that I'm not an expert - I think not quite.

I've always thought that a barrister was a specialist legally qualified person that represents people in court either for the prosecution or defence.

Whereas lawyer is, I think, is anyone legally qualified to give legal advice - so a barrister would be a lawyer but so would a solicitor.

I've kind of seen the term lawyer as like term Dr is in medicine - a term for anyone qualified to practice.

Whereas barrister would be more like cardiologist or pediatrician. A specialist lawyer that works in court

 

[Dotta]

With the caveat that I'm not an expert - I think not quite.

I've always thought that a barrister was a specialist legally qualified person that represents people in court either for the prosecution or defence.

Whereas lawyer is, I think, is anyone legally qualified to give legal advice - so a barrister would be a lawyer but so would a solicitor.

I've kind of seen the term lawyer as like term Dr is in medicine - a term for anyone qualified to practice.

Whereas barrister would be more like cardiologist or pediatrician. A specialist lawyer that works in court

Called to the bar

 

[Dotta]

It is so interesting - in Poland Defence barrister cannot act as Prosecution.

 

[Sillybilly]

Differences between a lawyer, a solicitor & a barrister

 

[Loobyloo]

A general query to those of you who've been around through multiple cases: is this thread likely to stay open for a while in case of any appeal?

 

[mrazda71]

A general query to those of you who've been around through multiple cases: is this thread likely to stay open for a while in case of any appeal?

Yes, most threads stay open indefinitely unless people can't follow the rules and then they may get closed.

 

[Newthoughts]

Now it's all over it looks like friends and family of PR are talking. The happy marriage is looking more and more like a sham with every dropped hint from 'friends'

https://www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/libby-squires-murderer-obsessed-stalking-23496789.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16133030994242&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/libby-squires-murderer-obsessed-stalking-23496789.amp#aoh=16133030994242&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-libby-squires-murderer-cries-23497473.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16133029630776&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-libby-squires-murderer-cries-23497473

 

[jamjim]

Now it's all over it looks like friends and family of PR are talking. The happy marriage is looking more and more like a sham with every dropped hint from 'friends'

https://www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/libby-squires-murderer-obsessed-stalking-23496789.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16133030994242&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/libby-squires-murderer-obsessed-stalking-23496789.amp#aoh=16133030994242&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-libby-squires-murderer-cries-23497473.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16133029630776&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-libby-squires-murderer-cries-23497473

He said: “He’d play football every now and again – he was always in goal because he was a bit chubby and didn’t like running up and down.”

I love how even this made it in amongst the other revelations!

 

[cocomisty]

Polish fruit picker Marzena Relowicz, 53, spoke out after her serial sex offender son Pawel, 26, was jailed for life.

Mother of Libby Squire’s murderer says she has wept for her heartbroken parents

 

[LastSeenWearing]

Now the trial is over and PR is no longer a danger to the women of Hull which is a great outcome I thought I would feel happy that such a dreadful man has been removed from society hopefully not to be seen again for a very long time. I am happy with the outcome but now I just feel an overwhelming feeling of sadness that poor Libby is no longer here to enjoy life and thrive. And her poor poor parents. When I read her mum's impact statement about being in a dark and lonely world and wanting to die to be with Libby I just feel utterly sad for her very brave heartbroken parents. Libby brought me to Websleuths as she lived on the same street Wellesley Avenue as my daughter. What happened to Libby could have happened to my daughter too and any of the other parents whose student children lived near PR. There but for the grace of God.. I feel justice has been served incarcerating PR but like Lisa Squire said there will be no closure for her. Its just so so sad that it took the death of Libby to keep the other students safe. I admire her mum Lisa totally. I couldn't have remained quiet and dignified throughout the way she has or read her powerful impact statement the way she did. Such a brave brave woman. I just hope one day her world becomes less lonely and dark. What a fitting tribute is inscibed on Libby's bench from her mum and dad "How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard". Fly high Libby wherever you are. We won't forget you.

 

[Vermont24]

Libby Squire's murderer Relowicz was obsessed with stalking women

Married dad-of-two Pawel Relowicz is revealed as a man obsessed with stalking and would go missing for hours at night, telling his wife he was 'out jogging'

 

[mrjitty]

Frankly most defence barristers - and many act at times for both prosecution and defence- would love a case like this. Career profile.

I mean who will really think I just have to hire that barrister who did that Hull murder case?

Unless it's truly a big celebrity case, no one is falling over themselves to catch this one - its just another murder case

 

[Loobyloo]

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