Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #10 *ARREST*

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I know this has probably been asked and answered by our locals but is there any cameras on Haworth that would have captured the car leaving that street before turning onto the main road.

As in, could PR have said, yeah that’s me talking to her on the corner of beverly and Haworth, yeah that’s me on spider cam and LR getting in my car, I was giving her a lift but then she decided to get out at the end of the street.. so, they have his car leaving Haworth street but not sure if she was still in it or not? If no cameras capture the rest of the street then they can’t prove she did get out or didn’t?

Maybe why they searched a house in that street?
 
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I know this has probably been asked and answered by our locals but is there any cameras on Haworth that would have captured the car leaving that street before turning onto the main road.

As in, could PR have said, yeah that’s me talking to her on the corner of beverly and Haworth, yeah that’s me on spider cam and LR getting in my car, I was giving her a lift but then she decided to get out at the end of the street.. so, they have his car leaving Haworth street but not sure if she was still in it or not? If no cameras capture the rest of the street then they can’t prove she did get out or didn’t?

Maybe why they searched a house in that street?

They may have been visiting a sex offenders home or something think they have searched a few of those.
 
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I know this has probably been asked and answered by our locals but is there any cameras on Haworth that would have captured the car leaving that street before turning onto the main road.

As in, could PR have said, yeah that’s me talking to her on the corner of beverly and Haworth, yeah that’s me on spider cam and LR getting in my car, I was giving her a lift but then she decided to get out at the end of the street.. so, they have his car leaving Haworth street but not sure if she was still in it or not? If no cameras capture the rest of the street then they can’t prove she did get out or didn’t?

Maybe why they searched a house in that street?
I think there's one in the takeaway at the Haworth/Cott Rd junction as well as one in a business (Gardeners pub/bar)across the road from that junction. As to road cameras I think there is one but unsure it would capture the junction above
 
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Hi all,

I’m new to this forum/not very well versed in the nuances of missing person investigations, so apologies if I’m asking the obvious…I’m puzzled about PR – do we have confirmation that he definitely gave Libby a lift, or have the police not disclosed this? Also, his sister’s statement to the media about him offering Libby a lift and entering her address into his sat-nav – are we assuming that this is pure conjecture/false information on his sister’s part, as the police have not addressed it in any public statements? Or is it because they are “sensitive” details they want to keep under wraps while the investigation is ongoing?

Thanks!
 
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I can't get it any better but i see a man with glasses sitting at the car.This is the man putting LS in that car.This is PR you can see he's glasses. Iv had to darken everything to get this please tell me someone see this.lol.
 

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If I had to guess I'd say that you don't know you're without your keys till you get to the door. Taxi driver and two students confirm she did get to her door. No keys are the simplest explaination I think. It's difficult to come up with others.

There is no reason to think she'd lost cash as well. My child tells me the licensed taxis Hull are like here. If you order one you get the reg and driver's name and can track its progress. Additionally if students have no cash the driver will take their student cards as a deposit and can only retrieve them on payment. Her friends couldn't have found a safer way home.

The only explanation I can think of for going to where she was last seen is in the hope someone she knew would get off the bus from the Welly. Perhaps they'd caught that bus before? In her drunken state she might not have thought about it not running that night and having to wait for hours. Again I struggle to think of any other explanation.

Sadly if it is PR in that CCTV stalking students is the simplest explanation for him being there that I can think of

Sadly I think we'll never know the v truth.

There was another theory mentioned on a previous thread, that maybe she didn’t want her night to end early.
 
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I can't get it any better but i see a man with glasses sitting at the car.This is the man putting LS in that car.This is PR you can see he's glasses. Iv had to darken everything to get this please tell me someone see this.lol.

Gonna be totally honest...can't see anything on that lol.

But when I've watched it slowed down on my big screen I thought he had glasses and a white cap on.
 
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Hi all,

I’m new to this forum/not very well versed in the nuances of missing person investigations, so apologies if I’m asking the obvious…I’m puzzled about PR – do we have confirmation that he definitely gave Libby a lift, or have the police not disclosed this? Also, his sister’s statement to the media about him offering Libby a lift and entering her address into his sat-nav – are we assuming that this is pure conjecture/false information on his sister’s part, as the police have not addressed it in any public statements? Or is it because they are “sensitive” details they want to keep under wraps while the investigation is ongoing?

Thanks!

Police have not said anything other than a 24 year old man is under investigation.

We are reading between the lines that it is PR and LS in the car on the cctv footage.

But nobody has confirmed it.
 
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The adverts I get on this site remind me of the cctv footage of short trousers or long shorts!!!
 

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Which country are you in Cherwell? A key on a ‘leather thong’ conjured up all kinds of images here :D
Perhaps I am just old :( I am talking about the 1970s when a leather thong was a bootlace. They were quite widely used. There were hippy-style fashions where people wove them into bracelets and similar accessories, or knotted them to make necklaces.

Anyway, my point was that she could have been wearing a key on a chain about her person.
 
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Thinking of police requesting the 4 people seen on CCTV - is that Oak Road? - to come forward with no success takes me back to Corrie's disappearance.

In that case the LE set up a hub in the town centre so locals could visit and watch the CCTV, which can make the public feel more involved imo.
Obviously it is a high cost effort, but seemed valuable especially if done at a busy time of day. Depends on how important LE consider these possible witnesses I suppose? At least I would expect LE to use that mobile vehicle to get more local info.

I'm not local so no idea how much publicity has been given? Not everyone is on SM or watches tv news and cctv film snapshots doesn't come across (imoo) in newspapers.
 
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The adverts I get on this site remind me of the cctv footage of short trousers or long shorts!!!

They could be either...

Pull them up a bit.... cropped
Pull them down a bit...long

Multi functional flashing pants!
 
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Thinking of police requesting the 4 people seen on CCTV - is that Oak Road? - to come forward with no success takes me back to Corrie's disappearance.

In that case the LE set up a hub in the town centre so locals could visit and watch the CCTV, which can make the public feel more involved imo.
Obviously it is a high cost effort, but seemed valuable especially if done at a busy time of day. Depends on how important LE consider these possible witnesses I suppose? At least I would expect LE to use that mobile vehicle to get more local info.

I'm not local so no idea how much publicity has been given? Not everyone is on SM or watches tv news and cctv film snapshots doesn't come across (imoo) in newspapers.

They could even show it in local cinemas before film starts.

Or like you say on that vehicle they had with the screens on.
 
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Bear in mind the preceding 10 minutes of him being parked there aren’t shown then the bit we see jumps from a few seconds after 00:00 to 2 mins something then jumps again to 5 mins something. The bag could have been removed from the boot at any one of those points and placed to the rear of the car/grabbed out of frame before going onto Bev Rd
Very true. I hadn't factored that in. So whatever it was could well have belonged to the driver.
 
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That's actually v impressive if true - I hadn't read that anywhere.

Might be important to know if this is their policy in cases where someone has no cash - could explain L's real vulnerability and hopelessness in bench if she had neither keys nor cash?
 
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Police have not said anything other than a 24 year old man is under investigation.

We are reading between the lines that it is PR and LS in the car on the cctv footage.

But nobody has confirmed it.

Thanks for clarifying!
 
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Gonna be totally honest...can't see anything on that lol.

But when I've watched it slowed down on my big screen I thought he had glasses and a white cap on.
Tell me they're not the the same trainers. BINGO!!
 

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I can't recall where I read it but I'm sure she said she got the days mixed up and thought the police meant Friday night. It was only when she read news reports that she realised it was actually Thursday night and called it in.

I can't find the article, but yes, that rings a bell. Also think the mixup was just semantic (ie whether you'd attribute an incident happening at 12.30am, Friday morning, to Thursday or Friday) rather than indicating a muddled or impressionable witness. (Good reason to use the 24-hr clock!)
 
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