Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

[Vermont24]

You should have read some of the comments that was being posted on the 4chan website about libby, enough to make you throw up tbh.. Thankfully the threads were taken down pretty quickly.

I'm now giving the Hull Live SM 'discussion' a miss for that very reason.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

I'm now giving the Hull Live SM 'discussion' a miss for that very reason.

Wise. That was the concern here over the last 3 or 4 days Imo, that we were getting a bit HullLive comments page. Weeping or shouting

 

[Quintet]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

Possibly meaning the bus stops!? They call them Haworth Street stops.

 

[bos]

Being pedantic, he has not even been 'released under investigation' AFAWK. All that has been reported is that he "is still a person of interest in this investigation"
Better to stick to the facts we do know.

If it happens, here is some info

‘Released under investigation’ – Explained | Wells Burcombe LLP

Your release from police custody under investigation means that you are not on police bail. There is no requirement to attend again at a police station. However, the police investigation is ongoing and at some point a decision will be made. You might be required to attend again for interview, you might be charged or summonsed to attend court, or no further action will be taken. You will have been given a notice when released from the police station which sets out some further guidance on what it means to be released under investigation.

Not going to argue as it is reasonably vague because he hasn’t been released due to other offences.

Humberside Police in their one month on statement:
“A man remains under investigation for kidnap in connection to Libby’s disappearance, and disclosing any further information while proceedings are active could jeopardise any potential, future prosecutions.

 

[Vermont24]

Possibly meaning the bus stops!? They call them Haworth Street stops.

I'd go with that.

 

[Quintet]

Possibly meaning the bus stops!? They call them Haworth Street stops.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

Maybe H St was after initial observation/recce of LS.....did LS start to return home and cross road and PR triggered to act incase 'prey' was leaving before he had decided/ psyched up to act? Did coersion/fabrication/abduction actually occur Beresford not Bench? 1m 42s was it from post to door opening footage?

 

[Quintet]

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Not sure you would fit many in that bus tho...

 

[Newthoughts]

Maybe H St was after initial observation/recce of LS.....did LS start to return home and cross road and PR triggered to act incase 'prey' was leaving before he had decided/ psyched up to act? Did coersion/fabrication/abduction actually occur Beresford not Bench? 1m 42s was it from post to door opening footage?

1m 42s would suggest bench. Would she go to Beresford to head home?

 

[JosieJo]

Forgive me if I’ve missed something, but, do me actually know that he didn’t go to the police prior to his arrest ? Is it feasible that when it was announced LS was missing, that he told the wife and police then, that he had given her a lift. Had he said he stopped as he saw a dodgy looking (sorry Mr Beard) grey long haired & bearded man talking to a sobbing girl on a bench, so he parked up (as per cctv) and went to help. Could the police then have monitored him in the following days and see him heading to the park/playing fields and with the added cctv footage we haven’t been privileged to see, was he fiddling with his jammy dodger as some have previously suggested!?

The guy does appear to be blasé and has managed to convince family, friends, workmates & neighbours that’s he’s a lovely normal chap, whilst allegedly living a lie. Just throwing it out there, I’ll go put my crash helmet on ready...

I think this is a possibility...once the publicity started hotting up around her disappearance...especially when it was released she was on the bench he would know there would be CCTV somewhere on his routes ..maybe he said to wife I gave her a lift I'm going to ring the police

 

[Newthoughts]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

There are bus stops near the bench. It could mean students use H st as a short cut to them. Cut thru from Cottingham road where the uni is perhaps?

I can't help seeing the H st location as a very good location to watch and follow students. Dead end so little passing traffic. Bus stop nearby. Road to uni. And now the possibility it could be a cut thru

 

[Harmony 2]

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[Vermont24]

1m 42s would suggest bench. Would she go to Beresford to head home?

If the assumed address is correct, Beresford would be my route home on foot every time.

 

[Quintet]

I’ve put number 52 to give the fastest route on foot.

1m 42s would suggest bench. Would she go to Beresford to head home?

 

[Deleted member 238128]

Hi all,

I've been following this thread for just over three weeks now and have finally plucked up the courage to create an account and make a post ...as a 21 year old philosophy student at a different university in the north of the UK who has drunkenly walked home by myself multiple times (no judgements please), this case has really hit home.

I agree with what seems to be the general consensus(?) here that PR attacked Libby and she's now in water. Reading between the lines of what information LE have given us, I think it's obvious that PR is spiderman and Libby got into his car. Although he has not yet been convicted for his charges, if that is the case then I think it's unlikely that Libby escaped one predator that night to fall into the hands of another whom LE seem to have no evidence of.

I think the 15 minutes of screams heard on the park/playing fields are far more plausible than the woman and her husband who heard a 'blood-curdling' scream and a banging gate. Having lived in a student house in a student area for two years, you hear those sorts of screams and bangs all the time - I really think this was just another drunk student and the woman just put two and two together and was trying to help.

RE PR's trespassing charges: again, having lived in student housing for the past two years, burglaries happen all the time. In the student suburb I lived in they would happen almost daily. Very often they would actually occur when people were home in the middle of the day. It happened to the house next door to me in broad daylight - someone entered the house through the back upstairs window whilst the students were downstairs and they made away with three macbooks. Nobody saw or heard anything. I had a ground floor bedroom and if I heard someone moving about upstairs or come through the front door (ours was always locked but I know in other student houses that's not the case), I'd assume it was one of my housemates. It would be the last thing on my mind to check for sure. I was also the only one out of my five other housemates to lock my internal bedroom door every time I left. Had I had a bedroom upstairs I probably would have locked it while I was downstairs too. It's crazy to me that they didn't, but I do think it's quite common for students to leave their internal doors unlocked unless going home for Christmas, etc. I don't think PR had any keys to houses, it's likely that doors were unlocked or windows left open. Student houses are often broken into, and I think PR knew that they're easy targets.

So sorry for the long post, I've been wanting to reply to everything for ages lol, had a lot to get out

Hi Gravy! Thank you for avoiding grey beard, Astras, foxes and Brexit Sensible post all round!

 

[HopeForGoodNews]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

Not sure about using Haworth Street itself to get everywhere in the city (unless as previously discussed they mean the bus stops) but I can see how they woild use it for getting to campus to cut out the Cottingham Road / Beverley Road corner.

 

[Vermont24]

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I’ve put number 52 to give the fastest route on foot.

That's exactly how I'd do it. There's no sense in continuing further north along Beverley Rd only to have to come back on yourself, and using Heathcoate is similarly pointless. Beresford Ave is closest to local shops and pubs, and would likely be her established route.

 

[Deleted member 238128]

Im starting again in my own head.

Im interested in if The corner of Beresford played any role. Either pre or post cctv Haworth. The Hammer/Sdriver/Lipgloss found here as prev discussed.

Missing Libby Squire police identify man seen 'helping drunk student'

This early msm from 2/2 is worth a read and others around that time or subsequently

Two points are of interest to me that id like some input on...



There are a couple of descriptions of GB stopping to help in this article alone.( but also others obv)
Is there any narrative that has him helping LS at corner of Beresford rather than at Bench.

2) There's a quote from a student explaining LE had door to doored and explained LS disappearence. He is quoted as saying. 'We’re avoiding using Haworth Street over the weekend until we find out what happened to Libby. “Police knocked on our door last night and showed us a picture of her. “I use Haworth Street to get everywhere in the city but today I avoided it.”

What do you think he means by using H St to get everywhere in the city? Or msm poor wording/inaccurate recall/notation?

Possibly referring to catching the bus from there? Or else misquoted

 

[Quintet]

That's exactly how I'd do it. There's no sense in continuing further north along Beverley Rd only to have to come back on yourself, and using Heathcoate is similarly pointless. Beresford Ave is closest to local shops and pubs, and would likely be her established route.

If you were taking your dog for a run in the Park, would you likely choose Beresford or Pearson, if both were about the same distance?