Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #14 *ARREST*

[Enquirer-2019]

So, has he stunned her and he's dragging her? Just waving it about to make her walk?
I'm struggling to go along with this. I hadn't considered a weapon being involved at all but even considering there was, I'm not jumping straight to bolt gun or cattle prod.....

Sorry.. I have just seen you have elaborated here. I appreciate your point of view @motherofdaughters

 

[Mauig’ma]

Also, her friends didn't 'send her home' - she was refused entry to a nightclub and the Bouncer put her in a taxi.

Yes it was here friends not the bouncer.

 

[Deleted member 238128]

The thing I find baffling is how did he target the houses to burglar sex toys?

How would you even begin find how that sort of information?

He would at least have had a list of addresses for young women who purchased Avon products from his wife for home delivery. That would have been a good starting point potentially.

 

[TheCasual]

It's just dawned on me.

But her family and friends have to plan her funeral and with it been a open investigation it might not be for some time

 

[Enquirer-2019]

We don’t know that PR was involved in the slaughter part of the operation. Even if he had access to the abattoir part of the plant, Karro doesn’t use stun guns, they use a method which lowers cages of pigs into a pit filled with Carbon Dioxide which causes respiratory arrest after about 30 seconds.

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If that’s the case then it would dilute the theory in terms of easy access to such device.

I was reading this link for UK laws/ methods, showing different methods for different types of animals in the abattoir/SH.

Animal slaughter - Wikipedia

 

[HopeForGoodNews]

Her state might be a factor in her believing PR or falling over. But I think what a lot of us are struggling with is why people keep trying to find pathological reasons why she was drunk.

Students, non students, lots of folk of different ages go out to enjoy themselves and occasionally drink too much. It happens, try a&e on a Friday night.

They were going to a club for a student night and decided it was cheaper to drink beforehand. Loads of students do it. It's not a sign of anything.

She should have been safe from PR. It's his behavior we should be pathologising not Libbys. She hasn't done anything wrong.

I absolutely agree she should have been safe. I only mentioned that to say logical thinking goes out of the window when drunk, most of us have been there. Choices and decisions are rational when sober bot necessarily in drink. I wasnt making any judgement or indeed trying to apportion any blame whatsoever.

I wasnt trying to judge or blame either. Absolutely she should have been able to be safe and there is only one person to blame. Just from the few small accounts of Libby we have read since she was found it strikes me as though this was not a normal pattern for her to be so drunk she was refused entry to a club. Just trying to justify to myself a reason she would be in that situation. Maybe just too much alcohol and another of those unfortunate one off events which led to where we are now.

 

[Ruthbullock]

Also, her friends didn't 'send her home' - she was refused entry to a nightclub and the Bouncer put her in a taxi.

I obviously watched different cctv to you and read different media- as from her perspective that is what happened ( no bouncer would put someone in a taxi, unless they were on their own- in which case the people she went out with just jollied into the nightclub and left her outside alone, which I highly doubt)

 

[TheCasual]

I wasnt trying to judge or blame either. Absolutely she should have been able to be safe and there is only one person to blame. Just from the few small accounts of Libby we have read since she was found it strikes me as though this was not a normal pattern for her to be so drunk she was refused entry to a club. Just trying to justify to myself a reason she would be in that situation. Maybe just too much alcohol and another of those unfortunate one off events which led to where we are now.

I'm 10 years older then Libby. I drink every weekend, but occasionally despite me knowing my limits I over do things.

It happens to everyone of us.

 

[TheCasual]

I obviously watched different cctv to you and read different media- as from her perspective that is what happened ( no bouncer would put someone in a taxi, unless they were on their own- in which case the people she went out with just jollied into the nightclub and left her outside alone, which I highly doubt)

I thought it Amelia who put her in a taxi home? The one wrote that amazing eulogy on Facebook.

 

[Skigh]

What I will say is her friends (in her head) rejected her by carrying on their night out without her and sending her home. At that point she may well have been in the head space of any attention and chance to carry on is viable.

The only part of your post I can agree with is that Libby might be cross that she had been sent home unfairly and was missing out on the rest of the evening.

 

[bos]

If that’s the case then it would dilute the theory in terms of easy access to such device.

I was reading this link for UK laws/ methods, showing different methods for different types of animals in the abattoir/SH.

Animal slaughter - Wikipedia

It is the case so it doesn’t just dilute your theory,
it completely knocks it on the head!

 

[Joolz1975]

I'm 10 years older then Libby. I drink every weekend, but occasionally despite me knowing my limits I over do things.

It happens to everyone of us.

Absolutely.

I've had nights out where I have had loads to drink and felt fine.

I've also had nights out where I've had very little to drink and felt really drunk.

 

[Joolz1975]

Deleted. Double post.

 

[Lyndaloo]

I believe Humberside Police have a lot to answer for.....due to the huge rise in violent/sexual crime in January compared with last years figures. I strongly believe they should have issued a very stern warning advising females not to travel around on their own due to the amount of unsavoury characters hanging around. Hull doesn’t seem like a very safe place at the moment.

 

[LucyRocket]

It's just dawned on me.

But her family and friends have to plan her funeral and with it been a open investigation it might not be for some time

Bless you Casual.

Even with the investigation open, her body can still be released for burial. Pardon the phrase

 

[Ruthbullock]

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I do think her night ended early and she wanted it to continue and went somewhere hoping to continue her night out by bumping into someone. That was pretty much how my uni days went and even as a fully grown (far too old to be going out adult), I will still try and continue my night if I feel it’s cut short by bumping into some other strange slightly known aquantaince.

 

[HopeForGoodNews]

It's just dawned on me.

But her family and friends have to plan her funeral and with it been a open investigation it might not be for some time

Each day will be like an eternity to them. I feel for Libbys mum as Mother's day is on Sunday. It will be an especially hard day for her.

 

[PaddyOreally?]

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That's a link to karro in malton's reviews from workers.

There's a few polish ones maybe someone can translate. I'm not sure pr was an animal slaughter with access to a stun gun!
Sounds like they just whack meat into packets.

Edit. Some reviews are from Malton,some from factories elsewhere. Might be of interest to some.

 

[TheCasual]

Each day will be like an eternity to them. I feel for Libbys mum as Mother's day is on Sunday. It will be an especially hard day for her.

Another thing that's going to hard for her mum. Is in the years to come Libby's anniversary is going to fall on Mothers Day

 

[Cherwell]

Even with the investigation open, her body can still be released for burial. Pardon the phrase

I'm afraid that won't happen for a while. If they arrest and charge someone with her murder, the accused has the right to request a second post-mortem. I don't see them releasing it just yet, even for burial.