Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #16 *ARREST*

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  • #801
I have no idea what you're wibbling on about but I literally just heard my son ask his mate "What's that dog called that sounds like a bugle? Oh yeah, a beagle".

I think the two of you would get on well :p

I think it might have been the conversation about whether a small dog had been seen at PRs family home! With confirmation from a WS who’s son lived opposite that he had indeed seen a dog. Followed by chat about said dog! I’m possibly remembering it wrongly. It must have been a quiet day on the thread!
 
  • #802
I think it might have been the conversation about whether a small dog had been seen at PRs family home! With confirmation from a WS who’s son lived opposite that he had indeed seen a dog. Followed by chat about said dog! I’m possibly remembering it wrongly. It must have been a quiet day on the thread!
Youre correct AudioH!

I think we covered doghair on clothing etc too.

Every long thread gets so stretched in speculation that a dog always appears. Iirc its Rule 9 of Sleuther's Club :)
 
  • #803
I think it might have been the conversation about whether a small dog had been seen at PRs family home! With confirmation from a WS who’s son lived opposite that he had indeed seen a dog. Followed by chat about said dog! I’m possibly remembering it wrongly. It must have been a quiet day on the thread!
Oh yeah, I think it may have been speculation about whether he had good excuses to go out, eg walking a dog.
But that itself is speculation :D
 
  • #804
I think it might have been the conversation about whether a small dog had been seen at PRs family home! With confirmation from a WS who’s son lived opposite that he had indeed seen a dog. Followed by chat about said dog! I’m possibly remembering it wrongly. It must have been a quiet day on the thread!

Oh yes, it's coming back to me. I thought at the time a dog would be nothing but a hindrance if you were sneaking about being a filthy perv.

(what was that terminology for male masturbation someone used way back that had us all in stitches?)

Found it, by Quintet: What would the charge be titled as, if you tampered with yourself and left a nobular deposit in someone’s house whilst uninvited and without spectators?
 
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  • #805
(what was that terminology for male genitalia someone used way back that had us all in stitches?)
Wedding tackle?
Meat and two veg?

Feel free to add to the list. ;)

EDIT : Oh, now you've changed it! :rolleyes:
 
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  • #806
Oh yes, it's coming back to me. I thought at the time a dog would be nothing but a hindrance if you were sneaking about being a filthy perv.

(what was that terminology for male masturbation someone used way back that had us all in stitches?)

Found it, by Quintet: What would the charge be titled as, if you tampered with yourself and left a nobular deposit in someone’s house whilst uninvited and without spectators?

OMG nobular deposit - I had forgotten all about that!! :D
 
  • #807
I really can't get the idea of her running off into a river.

The pictures I've seen of the park suggest it'd be a sort of uphill run. Frozen uneven ground. A bank. A tidal river. Bends a lot before she gets to the Humber. I can't see her falling far enough in to be carried away. The police were there very shortly after searching.

He's stocky she's drunk. IMO she'd struggle to get away from him.

His crimes suggest he's not put off easily.

I struggle with accidentally killing someone. How would you manage that?
Petrified and intoxicated I see it as plausible as other theories
 
  • #808
Oh yes, it's coming back to me. I thought at the time a dog would be nothing but a hindrance if you were sneaking about being a filthy perv.

(what was that terminology for male masturbation someone used way back that had us all in stitches?)

Found it, by Quintet: What would the charge be titled as, if you tampered with yourself and left a nobular deposit in someone’s house whilst uninvited and without spectators?
Miss her :D
 
  • #809
I think if it was him he sees her as a captive audience unable to get away from whatever he wanted to do in front of her.
I do think the screams and man running out the park are them
The screams were reported as sounding as if they were moving ...which is why I dont totally eliminate her getting away from him and running in the opposite direction
Also if that was them something happened very quickly...so either he caught up with her somewhere near the river and killed her silencing her or he ran out the park and left her to her death
Very intoxicated people succumb to more well lit rivers as we have seen in the past ...the slope up from the pool area to the river bank is a slope but very clear and accessible even if icy especially if running in fear
Anything is possible but if the screams and running man are them the timing based on the little we know does not lend itself to full blown physical sexual assault followed by murder in a planned form imo
 
  • #810
Was there not a statement made by LE at some point saying they thought Libby had died before entering the water?
 
  • #811
Was there not a statement made by LE at some point saying they thought Libby had died before entering the water?

Don't think so. If there was I've not see it discussed anywhere (though I've not looked at the thread so much lateley)
 
  • #812
I believe LE just said cause of death had not been released due to investigative and operational reasons. Or words to that effect.
 
  • #813
Don't think so. If there was I've not see it discussed anywhere (though I've not looked at the thread so much lateley)

Found a tabloid story-not a very highly rated tabloid but it says

HOMICIDE PROBE
Libby Squire cops say she may have been murdered before body was dumped in Humber Estuary
 
  • #814
Found a tabloid story-not a very highly rated tabloid but it says

HOMICIDE PROBE
Libby Squire cops say she may have been murdered before body was dumped in Humber Estuary

Not the most reliable paper but it must of been where i read it
 
  • #815
So if we were to move on and forget this guy now, the poor guy has a massive sentence for just a few bits and bobs nothing serious, hopefully he will appeal, so do we have any other suspects for who might have harmed lobby,

No, he is the only suspect and the last one to see her alive.

I agree the sentence is higher than the norm, but, "poor guy" and "nothing serious"? Apart from traumatising several girls, multiple counts of burglary, stealing cash, valuables and personal items, and creeping around the area with his knob out scaring people just to get his sicko kicks. Did you read the judges remarks about him being dangerous and a deviant?

I think you'd feel differently if it happened to your wife, sister or daughter.
 
  • #816
Hull Daily Mail have put an article up which states word for word what the Judge told PR regarding the lengths he's serving for each crime:



Every word said as Relowicz is jailed for 'perverted sexual campaign'

Been reading about the sentence and so glad the judge treated his crimes as serious since any form of breaking and entering and stealing is a very serious crime. Especially with a repeat and perverted offender.

Good riddance. Take him away and hope to not hear about him for about 8 years.
 
  • #817
Been reading about the sentence and so glad the judge treated his crimes as serious since any form of breaking and entering and stealing is a very serious crime. Especially with a repeat and perverted offender.

Good riddance. Take him away and hope to not hear about him for about 8 years.

No such luck, Hats. For one he can be out on parole (if he's good) after 4 years 3 months, and he's already served 6. So by my reckoning he could be out around May 2023. That's if he doesn't appeal and get it reduced, which seems fairly likely.

I'm just glad he didn't walk free today. And I'm glad all his friends and family will know what a dirty sod he really is.
 
  • #818
But he never even touched any of the girls, that's more like a rape sentence then flashing ya bits around, so we still not know anything about how lobby died, cause of death etc,

That was for NINE individual crimes, no doubt there were several more. He's a sexual predator and was getting bolder. What do you think he's likely to have done with a drunk, attractive young woman once he got her in his car that night? He'd been leaving, ahem, nobular deposits on her neighbours door just 10 days earlier. I think it's reasonable to suspect he knows more than he's letting on!!

We DO know the police suspect homicide, ie Libby died at the hands of another whether accidentally or on purpose.
 
  • #819
But he never even touched any of the girls, that's more like a rape sentence then flashing ya bits around, so we still not know anything about how lobby died, cause of death etc,
I know it's probably your phone's autocorrect but you've called Libby "lobby" twice in the past half hour and not edited your posts to correct it and I find it extremely disrespectful.
 
  • #820
But he never even touched any of the girls, that's more like a rape sentence then flashing ya bits around, so we still not know anything about how lobby died, cause of death etc,

July 23, 2017: Observing another person in Edgecumbe Street doing a private act knowing that person did not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification.

February 16, 2018: Watching a person performing a private act for the purpose of sexual gratification.

June 6, 2018: Watching a person performing a private act for the purpose of sexual gratification.

December 26, 2018: Watching a person performing a private act for the purpose of sexual gratification.

Burglary

July 29, 2017, to August 1, 2017: Stealing £148 from a property in Chester Avenue.

December 7, 2017, to December 20, 2017: Stealing three vibrators from a property in Raglan Street.

January 25, 2019, to January 28, 2019: Stealing a laptop, Kindle, portable speaker, quantity of sex toys, quantity of clothes, condoms and various photographs from a property in Ventnor Street.

Outraging public decency

January 12, 2019: Masturbating in Newland Avenue.

January 20, 2019: Masturbating in Wellesley Avenue.


Come on, he did slightly more than 'flash his bits', don't you think? He purposely went out to petrify young women. He's a serious sexual deviant.
 
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