Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #17 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 238128]

Or he gave in after a long time and finally confessed?

I would think this is the least likely scenario - could be wrong. I’d put some sort of video evidence, DNA evidence or evidence from a third party above the little creep confessing to a thing...

 

[DanCJ]

This was the first case that brought me onto Web-Sleuths. Whats the next course of action, will it now be silence on the case until it comes to trial and then we get another thread?

 

[Sera]

This was the first case that brought me onto Web-Sleuths. Whats the next course of action, will it now be silence on the case until it comes to trial and then we get another thread?

There will likely be some sort of update in the media after PR has been in court next Wednesday. If he pleads guilty before the trial then there won't be a trial at all, he'll go straight to sentencing. If he pleads not guilty then there will be a trial and we'll probably not hear anything else until the trial begins. Either way I don't think there will be a new thread; we'll just keep using this one until it's "full" and then there'll be a new one.

 

[Oulton]

Only just seen PR has finally been charged!

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Nothing should come out between now and any trial as that would allow his defence to question whether his trial is fair.

I’m pretty sure he’ll plead not guilty as he did with the lesser crimes until there was incontrovertible evidence for some of them. Even if the police have strong evidence, I’m sure he’ll go for trial with the hope his defence can create doubt within the jury and he isn’t convicted.

I hope any trial gets somewhere in finding the truth of what happened to Libby. It’s all too horrendous for her family & nothing will bring her back but it’s arguably worse to not know I think.

I meant over the coming months with his plead and then in court what will transpire.

 

[Fidobell]

Followed this story from the off , it's taken time but the news today answers all our prayers . RIP Libby . X

 

[Via Marple]

This was the first case that brought me onto Web-Sleuths. Whats the next course of action, will it now be silence on the case until it comes to trial and then we get another thread?

The thread will then be moved to the trial forum, you will not notice if you have watched this thread.

I hope what happened to the Claremont serial killer thread won't happen here... Australian authorities asked Tricia to take down the thread before the trial. So now we can't discuss the case.

 

[DanCJ]

I'm so glad that we are going to be able to get some closure, these cases just get you in a way that I cant quite put my finger on. Credit to the Police for never giving up, they've done well.

 

[DanCJ]

The thread will then be moved to the trial forum, you will not notice if you have watched this thread.

I hope what happened to the Claremont serial killer thread won't happen here... Australian authorities asked Tricia to take down the thread before the trial. So now we can't discuss the case.

Just to clarify, what led it to be taken down when other trial threads were allowed to proceed? It would be a massive blow if this happened here too.

 

[LucyRocket]

Good news that they have charged him. Horrible that her family will have to endure hearing what he did to her at trial. Poor family.

No plea yet

 

[LucyRocket]

This was the first case that brought me onto Web-Sleuths. Whats the next course of action, will it now be silence on the case until it comes to trial and then we get another thread?

Hi Dan

We may get a small detail on October 30th, but unlikely. That will be a procedural hearing. It's listed as happening at the magistrate's court. Magistrate court does not have any dealings with major offences such as murder, so the likelihood is that this date will consist of the accused appearing in person, or more likely by video link, to confirm his identity details, inform him of the charge, and refer him to the crown court. The other line of duty of magistrate's court is to inform the accused as to whether they will be bailed or held on remand until their appearance at crown court, but as in this case the accused is already held in prison, that is not relevant

 

[Via Marple]

Just to clarify, what led it to be taken down when other trial threads were allowed to proceed? It would be a massive blow if this happened here too.

It doesn't happen often, but ...
Claremont Serial Killer Case is Closed Temporarily for Discussion

 

[DanCJ]

Hi Dan

We may get a small detail on October 30th, but unlikely. That will be a procedural hearing. It's listed as happening at the magistrate's court. Magistrate court does not have any dealings with major offences such as murder, so the likelihood is that this date will consist of the accused appearing in person, or more likely by video link, to confirm his identity details, inform him of the charge, and refer him to the crown court. The other line of duty of magistrate's court is to inform the accused as to whether they will be bailed or held on remand until their appearance at crown court, but as in this case the accused is already held in prison, that is not relevant

Thanks for this Lucy.

 

[Newthoughts]

After the magistrates court, where I'd put money on him going for not guilty, does it go straight to trial or are there dates in between as there was with the other charges. This is the first case I've watched as well - and the thing that brought me to websleuths.

 

[JosieJo]

It's very unlikely he will submit a plea at magistrates. It will be referred immediately to crown court where there is usually another procedural hearing very soon after
The plea hearing usually comes much later and sometimes there is also a further case management hearing before trial actually begins ...if pleads not guilty

 

[Crazy Mama]

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[Armchair_Defective]

I've just heard the news, great news for justice at least. The predator has been caught, he's not as clever as he imagined himself to be - much lower on the food chain!

 

[Eyes Wide Open]

This is a huge step hopefully towards getting to the truth and justice, primarily for Libby's family, etc. The charge of rape must be based on some evidence and I can only think of (a) DNA, (b) Witness Statement, (c) Confession. Is his historical offending admissable in some way?
Next week's hearing can't come quickly enough. I wonder about the pleas down the line - possibly guilty to neither, one or both charges. I really hope the family are spared from as much hurt as possible.

 

[Newthoughts]

This is a huge step hopefully towards getting to the truth and justice, primarily for Libby's family, etc. The charge of rape must be based on some evidence and I can only think of (a) DNA, (b) Witness Statement, (c) Confession. Is his historical offending admissable in some way?
Next week's hearing can't come quickly enough. I wonder about the pleas down the line - possibly guilty to neither, one or both charges. I really hope the family are spared from as much hurt as possible.

I was surprised at the rape charge. Not because I don't think it happened but because of the evidence requirements.

I do wonder if it hinges on whatever story he might have fed police early on to explain going into the park. In which case his previous offences may well be very relevant and useful if admissible.

I hope not tho because it's going to be hard enough for Libby's family to listen to evidence without having to sit through whatever slurs and tales the defence might use.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I still think that was Libby screaming in the park that night.