UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor* #4

[HongKongPhooey]

Random question - anyone know what accent she has, Essex or Welsh? Just kind of brings her testimony to life more if I can hear it in my mind.

 

[Sooty]

Random question - anyone know what accent she has, Essex or Welsh? Just kind of brings her testimony to life more if I can hear it in my mind.

i read her (in my head) with a welsh accent. But I am probably wrong.

 

[Skigh]

Stepfather accused of murdering Logan Mwangi 'hit him so hard he tore his liver', court hears | Daily Mail Online

 

[Doughy]

Random question - anyone know what accent she has, Essex or Welsh? Just kind of brings her testimony to life more if I can hear it in my mind.

Essex I imagine if she only moved to Wales as an adult.

 

[SpursGyal]

Random question - anyone know what accent she has, Essex or Welsh? Just kind of brings her testimony to life more if I can hear it in my mind.

From her now deleted TikTok’s she had an Essex accent

 

[mrazda71]

Angharad has an Essex accent

John has a Coventry/Rrugby/Worcester accent

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Would you listen to her …. Dear lord she really is a saint of a mother, isn’t she?.!

I would love her to know that we’re not buying it. One bit.

 

[Seattle1]

they described how he was found in the river, can anyone remember? I think they said the same position, knees up to the chest. In that case, obviously no CPR was attempted. Surely they will point that out in court

Also, Logan had to be contorted and his body folded up just to fit in the Nike bag that was only 67cm.

ETA: if the Nike bag was even used here??

 

[Doughy]

I don't understand how his knees remained up at his chest if he wasn't in rigor mortis.

 

[RusselSprout]

Yes I tried to imagine this also, and could only think he was lying on his side with his knees up, as couldn't imagine lying on your back with knees up to chest. But thought jc he was lying on his back with knees up....

67cm...thanks for that info. I was wondering the size of the bag, as I have a Nike holdall and it's tiny. Must get the measuring tape out to envisage this bag

 

[ChloLo]

I don't understand how his knees remained up at his chest if he wasn't in rigor mortis.

This is what I was trying to get at earlier. JC even stated that Logan’s head flopped.

 

[neteditor]

This is what I was trying to get at earlier. JC even stated that Logan’s head flopped.

Rigor wasn't a finding in the autopsy, either, it would definitely have been mentioned in evidence relating to time of death if so.

 

[Alyce]

he had an affair with a MAN? that would explain a lot- as in self-hatred and shame etc

at least she's not going down the route it was all Logan's fault... yet

apparently this is correct. The reporter has confirmed that AW did say man…it is not a typo.

 

[Moll]

This was how Logan's position was described earlier (it's in the South Wales Argus account I linked to in #92, and no doubt elsewhere):
'Prosecuting, Caroline Rees QC said: “She saw there the body of a young child lying on his right side with his knees bent in an open foetal position. It was Logan.'

In today's questioning she tried to get JC to admit the whole business about the bag was a fiction and that does seem likely.

 

[Skigh]

apparently this is correct. The reporter has confirmed that AW did say man…it is not a typo.

I wonder if that was confirmed by JC or whether AW was deflecting away from her own weekend with Logan's father.

 

[Seattle1]

Wonderful role model !!!!!!!

Yes -- in between (allegedly) beating Logan's mother!

 

[tedtink]

"The defendant was asked why he didn’t mention putting Logan in the bag in his police interviews."

RSBM

Is it because after he'd seen the CCTV it occurred to him, after some imagination, during remand for nearly 8 months, that LM's arms on his neck, could be passed off as a 'white NIKE tick? Thinking it would support and strengthen the youths 'story' even more?

He mentioned the Nike tick in his evidence being mistaken for LM's arms.

 

[ChloLo]

Rigor wasn't a finding in the autopsy, either, it would definitely have been mentioned in evidence relating to time of death if so.

I definitely remember rigor being stated somewhere a long the way, but there’s so much to go through to find it again.

 

[Squamous]

The paramedics talk about rigor mortis here:

Jury shown video of PC finding boy dead in river - BBC News

I don’t know what to make about the affair with a man, may well be AW trying to humiliate JC.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

The paramedics talk about rigor mortis here:

Jury shown video of PC finding boy dead in river - BBC News

I don’t know what to make about the affair with a man, may well be AW trying to humiliate JC.

She didn’t have to specify gender, which to me suggests in her mind there’s a connotation of some kind there. I hope so, because it may mean the gloves are off and she’ll go for it tomorrow.