GUILTY UK - Louise Smith, 16, Havant, Hampshire, 8 May 2020 *Arrest*

[Alyce]

Thanks for the updates Legally.

Based on his alleged IQ score, I wonder if he will be giving evidence. I was sure I read somewhere that he was due to do so, but would the disadvantages outweigh the benefits ?

 

[Mind your biscuits]

He had enough intelligence to lie, hide her body and attempt to destroy evidence. That alone is proof he knew he had done wrong. Moo.

 

[Skigh]

He had enough intelligence to lie, hide her body and attempt to destroy evidence. That alone is proof he knew he had done wrong. Moo.

He also lied about walking her to the skate park.In order to be able to lie needs some level of intelligence and memory to repeat the lie.

 

[Kitkat28]

Research has shown that a 2 or 3 year old child can tell basic differences between right and wrong, so I’m not buying his low IQ as an excuse although I’m sure the defence will milk it for all it’s worth. I trust the jury will have the sense to see through it.

 

[polerina]

I absolutly agree KitKat28, his low IQ is no excuse, despicable behaviour is despicable behaviour, I just wonder what the defence team will do with the info.

Is he going to take the stand? I think it's a really risky move on his defence team's part, I can't imagine he will stand up well under cross examination - even intelligent and innocent people can be blindsided by a skillfull cross examination.

I think the Courts will probably put a lot of measures into place to support the defendant throughout the process, but i'll be very interested to hear how that goes down

 

[Harchmare]

Trial told Louise Smith’s killer Shane Mays has ‘IQ of 63’ as prosecution close case

Agreed facts were also read yesterday.

-CJ discussing SM's anger issues via text
-SM was given a reprimand for assault + caution for theft but no criminal convictions

A text from Louise to her boyfriend: ‘What is so wrong with me that none of my family care?’

More at link.

 

[Harchmare]

Uncle talked about taking anger management before bludgeoning his niece to death, court hears | Daily Mail Online

DM recap from yesterday

 

[Harchmare]

14 minutes ago
Trial resumes today
The trial of Shane Mays will continue today, with court set to begin at 10.30am.

Today, Mays is expected to give evidence himself as he is questioned by defence barrister, Andrew Langdon QC.

Louise Smith murder trial: Live updates as Shane Mays set to give evidence

 

[polerina]

14 minutes ago
Trial resumes today
The trial of Shane Mays will continue today, with court set to begin at 10.30am.

Today, Mays is expected to give evidence himself as he is questioned by defence barrister, Andrew Langdon QC.

Louise Smith murder trial: Live updates as Shane Mays set to give evidence

That will be interesting.

Is someone able to provide the updates today? x

 

[Harchmare]

That will be interesting.

Is someone able to provide the updates today? x

I can do it @polerina.

 

[Bethan]

That will be interesting.

Is someone able to provide the updates today? x

Very interesting!

I can do it @polerina.

Thank you @Harchmare & for all your updates to date....much appreciated!

 

[polerina]

I can do it @polerina.

Thank you, that's brilliant I've got to go out shortly or i'd have offered to help. I'm in the process of moving house so I have to tare myself away from this forum to actually get something done lol. x

 

[Harchmare]

Thank you, that's brilliant I've got to go out shortly or i'd have offered to help. I'm in the process of moving house so I have to tare myself away from this forum to actually get something done lol. x

Hehe if you need a break, you know where we are! Good luck with the move.

 

[polerina]

Hehe if you need a break, you know where we are! Good luck with the move.

Thank you!! I've got my PC set up and internet sorted so that's the main thing haha, priorities!

I'll pop back in a bit and catch up. x

 

[Harchmare]

Thank you!! I've got my PC set up and internet sorted so that's the main thing haha, priorities!

I'll pop back in a bit and catch up. x

Hehe, the rest will keep

Nothing to report so far!

 

[Bogyo13]

Trial told Louise Smith’s killer Shane Mays has ‘IQ of 63’ as prosecution close case

Agreed facts were also read yesterday.

-CJ discussing SM's anger issues via text
-SM was given a reprimand for assault + caution for theft but no criminal convictions

A text from Louise to her boyfriend: ‘What is so wrong with me that none of my family care?’

More at link.

Thank you @Harchmare for the updates!

Very interesting I hope we hear more about CJ's relevant texts

 

[Harchmare]

Here we go.

Court 1 T20207045
SHANE LEE MAYS
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:55

 

[Harchmare]

6 minutes ago
Where Louise’s phone was found
The jury has just been informed that Louise’s mobile phone, a pink Sony Xperia, was found 210m away from where her body was found.

Fingerprints found on the phone matched those of Shane Mays, the prosecution added.

2 minutes ago
Mays begins giving evidence
Giving evidence, Mays grew up in Stratfield Gardens, Leigh Park, attending Park Community School as a youngster.

He told the court he ‘can’t remember’ what his GCSE results were, but frequented the Havant Thicket area, going camping with friends.

Louise Smith murder trial: Live updates as Shane Mays set to give evidence

 

[Bogyo13]

I don't believe he doesn't remember his GCSEs. MOO

 

[Skigh]

6 minutes ago
Where Louise’s phone was found
The jury has just been informed that Louise’s mobile phone, a pink Sony Xperia, was found 210m away from where her body was found.

Fingerprints found on the phone matched those of Shane Mays, the prosecution added.

2 minutes ago
Mays begins giving evidence
Giving evidence, Mays grew up in Stratfield Gardens, Leigh Park, attending Park Community School as a youngster.

He told the court he ‘can’t remember’ what his GCSE results were, but frequented the Havant Thicket area, going camping with friends.

Louise Smith murder trial: Live updates as Shane Mays set to give evidence

(sounds like the prosecution finished yesterday)

If his IQ was only 63 I am surprised he took any GCSE's.