UK - Lucy Letby - Post-Conviction Statutory Inquiry

[Anxala]

The word single can be used to denote relationship status. Perhaps 'single' was morphed to 'single parent' at some point down the line of communication.

MOO

That's a thought, that 'single person' inadvertantly become 'single parent'...

"The nurse has been working at COCH for approximately 8 years full time, she is a Cheshire resident, and a single parent.

But if 'person' rather than' parent' why then the note that follows it? Or would her status as a single person (under the shadow of such a serious accusation) somehow render her vulnerable?

AP — IH to provide personal details of the nurse, and to look at safeguarding referral as single parent."

 

[Sweeper2000]

That's a thought, that 'single person' inadvertantly become 'single parent'...

"The nurse has been working at COCH for approximately 8 years full time, she is a Cheshire resident, and a single parent.

But if 'person' rather than' parent' why then the note that follows it? Or would her status as a single person (under the shadow of such a serious accusation) somehow render her vulnerable?

AP — IH to provide personal details of the nurse, and to look at safeguarding referral as single parent."

They knew what was ahead of her and I think it's a safeguarding issue that if she faces disciplinary action it will obviously be a stressful time for that at the time "innocent person". It's responsible to provide someone yet to be convicted of anything with support in that context. The single person status is simply used as a way of gauging if this person has a support network and perhaps doesn't need extra support.

So difficult to figure out as so much contradictory Info. Especially that bit in red. You would think IH has said she was a parent but I don't think that's the case.

 

[Sweeper2000]

The word single can be used to denote relationship status. Perhaps 'single' was morphed to 'single parent' at some point down the line of communication.

MOO

Looking at it I'm almost sure your correct. It can be an issue people being by themselves and would warrant an offer of support. She got it as well didn't she from de burger or whoever.

 

[Anxala]

Yes, I appreciate that, the safeguarding issue as a single person. My point is more that 'single person' then makes far more sense than 'single parent', since 'single parent' implies regular if not actual day to day responsibility for a child and she clearly was not a single parent in that respect or, in as much as we know from her past, any other respect.

Oh well, hopefully some further light will be thrown on this next week. I'm going with unfortunate autocorrect typo that wasn't picked up for the moment.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Anxala agreed.

The way that reads is that it was typed up by a third person afterwards hence "the nurse" etc I don't think it was typed up by either the three named police guys or anyone at the hospital or directly involved. I also think the language signifies it was typed up maybe relayed down the line and that's likely where this went wrong.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Yes, I appreciate that, the safeguarding issue as a single person. My point is more that 'single person' then makes far more sense than 'single parent', since 'single parent' implies regular if not actual day to day responsibility for a child and she clearly was not a single parent in that respect or, in as much as we know from her past, any other respect.

Oh well, hopefully some further light will be thrown on this NEXT WEEK. I'm going with unfortunate autocorrect typo that wasn't picked up for the moment.

Is there more documentation to be released then? This was just the latest batch?

 

[Anxala]

Is there more documentation to be released then? This was just the latest batch?

No idea, Sweeper. But:

These are official minutes from an Operation Hummingbird meeting which are now in the public domain. Saying something very new and very startling about LL.

It won't be just us here on this thread that will be looking for clarification here on the 'single parent' front.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Lol I can remember when people were saying she might have done it because she didn't or couldn't have a baby.

Wow the trial was quite straightforward but now You twist and turn like a ... twisty-turny thing. I say you are a weedy pigeon and you can call me Susan if it isn't so.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Lol I can remember when people were saying she might have done it because she didn't or couldn't have a baby.

Wow the trial was quite straightforward but now You twist and turn like a ... twisty-turny thing. I say you are a weedy pigeon and you can call me Susan if it isn't so.

A Blackadder quote always wins the day!

 

[May72031]

I'm still thinking it is an admin error of some sort.

I just think those of us with ears to the ground would have heard something before now.

 

[Sweeper2000]

No idea, Sweeper. But:

These are OFFICIAL utes from an Operation Hummingbird meeting which are now in the public domain. Saying something very new and very startling about LL.

It won't be just us here on this thread that will be looking for clarification here on the 'single parent' front.

Anyone think the fact that that info was officially released means that if true then there is no gagging order on it and would then already be in the media?

 

[windrower]

No idea, Sweeper. But:

These are official minutes from an Operation Hummingbird meeting which are now in the public domain. Saying something very new and very startling about LL.

It won't be just us here on this thread that will be looking for clarification here on the 'single parent' front.

bbm

And please, what is the something?!?

 

[Marantz4250b]

Anyone think the fact that that info was officially released means that if true then there is no gagging order on it and would then already be in the media?

If it's true then there may well be an order to prevent its publication but it may have been published inadvertently without redactions.

 

[Tortoise]

 

[Sweeper2000]

Oh dear I'm genuinely considering her having doc chocs baby. D

 

[Marantz4250b]

Oh dear I'm genuinely considering her having doc chocs baby. D

I don't think so. I'm still of the opinion that she latched on to him because she has issues with sex/intimacy and that, despite the fact that he was married, she saw him as a safe bet as he wouldn't cheat so that would never be something she'd need to confront.

Also, given the time frame, I can't imagine how this could have gone unnoticed.

 

[CS2C]

Dr Choc (Certified Stud Muffin)

 

[Sweeper2000]

I don't know about anyone else but If I went home with a girl whose house decorations included the words "leave sparkles everywhere you go" I'd be out if there at first sight and I would leave 100 on the table. "I'm sorry I've made a terrible terrible mistake I've got to go home and sob in the shower for several hours".

 

[ColourPurple]

I don't think so. I'm still of the opinion that she latched on to him because she has issues with sex/intimacy and that, despite the fact that he was married, she saw him as a safe bet as he wouldn't cheat so that would never be something she'd need to confront.

No married man invests that much time and effort (including trips to London and visits to her house) to merely discuss the flowers in Cockington! Don’t get me wrong, I doubt they were swinging from the chandeliers. Probably more like the infamous scene with Will from the Inbetweeners, but still…

 

[ColourPurple]

Dr Choc (Certified Stud Muffin)

Or as Rachel Aviv described him “a junior doctor, whom I'll call Taylor, who had become a close friend”