UK UK - Melanie Hall, 25, Bath, Somerset, 9 June 1996

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Just so i don't seem completely silly for referencing a colour (blue) as a trigger, (both positive & negative) for some, noting, fwiw..
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I'm a bit concerned that this has been an active case for quite a while now, yet they still haven't re-examined the CCTV, or digitised the case files. The lack of digitisation is weird. It's not like computers weren't around during the initial enquiry.

At least POIs are being reviewed, but I think it's a mistake to presume the killer is in the case files. Christopher Hampton wasn't in the case files for Melanie Road, despite living right there in Bath.

I also wouldn't rely too much on the police using AI, although I hope I'm proved wrong. When the police used cutting edge technology in Operation Enigma, the results turned out to be underwhelming.
I completely agree

AI is not something that can be relied upon, because it will inevitably amalgamate multiple cases into one.

This has already happened with the incorporation of AI in some of the more historical cold cases from the Victorian era.

AI will no doubt be excellent in some areas, but it can never replace that gut instinct that is essential for every case.

The irony will be that AI will learn to mimic "human error" and that will be catastrophic in terms of then being able to then prove that the AI was wrong.



I also agree that it feels wrong to automatically assume that the killer is already in the case files, because as you rightly say; the man who killed Melanie Road in Bath wasn't in the case files.

The idea that the police believe that the man who killed Melanie Hall is in the case files; combined with her family eluding to the idea that they believe someone knows more than they're letting on, would then suggest that the police likely know who the culprit was, but because of the lack of sufficient evidence, the police can't take it any further until another source comes forward, or they have something more concrete to go on.

After all, it's not about what the police know, it's about what they can prove.

That's more frustrating in a way, because while their belief that the killer is in the case files does help to narrow down the suspect pool, it also significantly hinders the case ever moving forward to a favourable outcome, because there's a likelihood that the killer is someone they've never considered before.

If the police had applied that same logic to the Melanie Road case, they would never have caught their man in Christopher Hampton.
 
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The fact that Melanie Hall went missing in the early hours of the 9th June 1996, and Melanie Road was murdered in the early hours of the 9th June 1984, may also be a factor to consider.

One would assume that Christopher Hampton; who was convicted of killing Melanie Road, has already been definitively ruled out as the potential killer of Melanie Hall, after she was abducted on the 12 year anniversary of Melanie Road's murder in 1984.

Of course, the idea that the latest comments by DCI Lavender prove that the convicted serial killer Christopher Halliwell STILL hasn't been definitively ruled out as the man who took Melanie Hall's life, then his presence as her potential killer will continue to linger over the case.
 
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Good video posted yesterday on the Mirror’s YouTube channel about the case

 
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The fact that Melanie Hall went missing in the early hours of the 9th June 1996, and Melanie Road was murdered in the early hours of the 9th June 1984, may also be a factor to consider.

One would assume that Christopher Hampton; who was convicted of killing Melanie Road, has already been definitively ruled out as the potential killer of Melanie Hall, after she was abducted on the 12 year anniversary of Melanie Road's murder in 1984.

Of course, the idea that the latest comments by DCI Lavender prove that the convicted serial killer Christopher Halliwell STILL hasn't been definitively ruled out as the man who took Melanie Hall's life, then his presence as her potential killer will continue to linger over the case.

I'm not sure how they are ruling anyone out, other than by cast iron alibi.

They have the partial DNA profile, but even ruling someone out as the source of the DNA doesn't rule out involvement. Particularly as the police have hinted at more than one perp being involved.

Halliwell is one of many, many possibilities. The region was full of murderers, abductors and highly mobile rapists in the 80s and 90s.

DCI Lavender mentions the possibility of a Bath and Thornbury connection, but then also mentions Halliwell who AFAIK has no link to either area.

Hampton for obvious reasons has ridiculously strong links to Bath. Julie Mackay said Hampton was a member of the snooker club which later became Cadillacs Nightclub.

Marc Shillibier also has confirmed links to Bath, as does the Batman Rapist, who was highly active in Bath in 1996, so it seems strange Halliwell is the one being name checked. Perhaps Hampton/Shillibier/Batman have been ruled out somehow, but I've never seen any confirmation.
 

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