UK - Nurse duped by prankster regarding royal, found dead.

  • #241
Disgusting?

Come on.

Courtenay Stodden and her pedo husband are disgusting.

Sandusky is disgusting.

Child abuse is disgusting.

Two DJ's calling a hospital to ask how the Duchess is feeling, is not "disgusting" in any definition of the word.

PRANKS are always done at the expense of other people; anything done at the expense of anyone is disgusting....
And let’s just say that if this nurse had not killed herself… KATE”S personal medial situation blasted on the Radio is absolutely intention to do something at somebody’s expense.
MOO
 
  • #242
Yes, it would seem so. I hope at least her family understands, when and if they are ever allowed to have or read the notes.

Such a tragic story. :(

I wish the nurse had at least texted her husband to say how the hospital treated her...
I think if I was reprimanded, I may call my significant other just for comfort.
I am not even sure of that.
 
  • #243
  • #244
Not a crime but didn't she violate hospital protocol by transferring the call to the ward? Or is it that anytime someone calls and pretends they are a family member (or even a friend) they get transferred to the ward and it's up to the nurse at the nurse's station to determine if it's legitimate or not?

I imagine the person who picks up the call just transfers it to the nurse.
MAYBE the receptionist on that floor had some rules to follow given they had such a high profile patient....but this nurse was not the receptionist.

I just wonder IF SHE WAS KATE'S nurse, wouldn’t she want to know who the caller really is given it was such a high profile patient.
I wonder what the 3 notes she left say.
 
  • #245
Kate Middleton, Royal Family Blamed for Nurse's Tragic Death by Morrissey, Says Duchess "Feels No Shame"

Gina Serpe, eonline
Seconds ago

Clearly, Morrissey is not familiar with the adage "if you don't have something nice to say..."

Because the noted sunshine-bringer of the British music scene today unleashed quite a horrific tirade against Kate Middleton, Prince William and the whole of the royal family, essentially blaming the monarchy for the tragic apparent suicide of hospital nurse Jacintha Saldanha.

And, it seems, more or less all the ills of the world...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20121212/b370734/


Interesting article: I was thinking the same thing, there is NO WAY the Royal family did not put a lot of pleasure on this situation.
 
  • #246
http://www.news.com.au/national/sou...id-death-threats/story-fncynjr2-1226536454512

Many people define themselves by their work, Jacintha worked at a prestigious place, good for the ego.
This particular radio station has Mr Sandiland as their main shock jock, so these 2 djs had to work down to his standards, management wanted and hired them to do what they did. This became world wide with twitter and such, their bragging about how foolish the person was who believed them, was JMO really the humiliating part. And, Jacintha, her name would of come out in time, not good for the ego.
It was the Royal security that should have had Kates privacy controlled, not some random nurse in the wrong place at the wrong time.
In the west, i read the stories, forclosure, divorce etc people commit suicide, out of loss of honour? Many people have a breaking point, i do not think they would of been seen as unstable before. I don't know Jacintha, so i have no opinion.
I have seen people go to jail for facebook bullying -to me- this has the same feel.
Making a mistake at work is one thing, that mistake going world wide, that would crush me. JMO
 
  • #247
I hope the djs are prosecuted. In the UK it is illegal to try to obtain private information such as medical information by deception. These two pretended to not only be a relative, but also the head of state, in order to obtain confidential medical information in order to give this information to the public. It woudl be illegal in the UK, hopefully this is also a crime in australia.

I also do not udnerstand why someone has said the nurse committed a crime. She did not. She herself gave away no confidential information and suicide is legal in the UK.

As I watched the crocodile tears from the pranksters, listened to their cries of how traumatized they were after being thrust into the spotlight for traumatizing a woman ... by thrusting her into the spotlight, I have to believe that if they had stopped for even one minute to consider how they would feel if they were humiliated on the world stage, they wouldn't have done it. Clearly they are so traumatized by the publicity that they hid for two days and supposedly needed psychological treatment because of the trauma. Yet, these two pranksters did not give one minute of thought to what they were doing to another person with their pranks. They treated it as a big joke ... right up until the moment that they were the victims of negative, international publicity.

They should be prosecuted, convicted and jailed to send a loud message that traumatizing people for kicks will not be tolerated.
 
  • #248
In this order I find fault:

- Radio station executive, who okayed the prank segment

- Hospital, for being too cheap to hire a night receptionist; calls transferred automatically to senior nurse instead

- Royal family, for being a power-wielding anachronism whose time has come and gone

- Young DJs, who made the call
 
  • #249
I'm not sure otto, the radio station yes- because that is what that radio station runs on, the station has run into problems, lost advertisers before. So really those 2 were just doing their job, as was the nurse. Management at the radio station and hospital, get paid to be responsible and make the rules.
 
  • #250
I don't think the Royal family is power-weilding. The UK has such a history, castles, Henry the 8th(when kings were really kings) i think the royal family is pretty humble, but they do cost money. But without them the UK would be a different country, to me it would be like if they bulldozed the castles. JMO
 
  • #251
As I watched the crocodile tears from the pranksters, listened to their cries of how traumatized they were after being thrust into the spotlight for traumatizing a woman ... by thrusting her into the spotlight, I have to believe that if they had stopped for even one minute to consider how they would feel if they were humiliated on the world stage, they wouldn't have done it. Clearly they are so traumatized by the publicity that they hid for two days and supposedly needed psychological treatment because of the trauma. Yet, these two pranksters did not give one minute of thought to what they were doing to another person with their pranks. They treated it as a big joke ... right up until the moment that they were the victims of negative, international publicity.

They should be prosecuted, convicted and jailed to send a loud message that traumatizing people for kicks will not be tolerated.

Ever watch the stuff on utube? Not everyone commits suicide. And I doubt any would have forseen a suicide. There's no proof that the prank led to the suicide. :dunno:
 
  • #252
As I watched the crocodile tears from the pranksters, listened to their cries of how traumatized they were after being thrust into the spotlight for traumatizing a woman ... by thrusting her into the spotlight, I have to believe that if they had stopped for even one minute to consider how they would feel if they were humiliated on the world stage, they wouldn't have done it. Clearly they are so traumatized by the publicity that they hid for two days and supposedly needed psychological treatment because of the trauma. Yet, these two pranksters did not give one minute of thought to what they were doing to another person with their pranks. They treated it as a big joke ... right up until the moment that they were the victims of negative, international publicity.

They should be prosecuted, convicted and jailed to send a loud message that traumatizing people for kicks will not be tolerated.

I don't agree, what's to say that the prank itself is what caused her to take her own life? She wasn't even the one who gave them information, all she did was transfer the call. The DJ's weren't trying to traumatize anyone, they were just trying to have fun at the hospital's expense.

You can't start blaming the DJ's without blaming the hospital first. There should of been protocol in place to the nurses, especially those that are taking calls, on how to handle any sort of inquiry to Kate. Or was there in fact protocol in place and the nurse didn't follow it, thus committed suicide due to shame, not from being traumatized.
 
  • #253
. Or was there in fact protocol in place and the nurse didn't follow it, thus committed suicide due to shame, not from being traumatized.
snip

Yes, your distinction there is so glaringly specfic.
 
  • #254
Ever watch the stuff on utube? Not everyone commits suicide. And I doubt any would have forseen a suicide. There's no proof that the prank led to the suicide. :dunno:
Anything else there's not, besides a dead nurse, which there most certainly is?
 
  • #255
Anything else there's not, besides a dead nurse, which there most certainly is?

You have proof that the nurse committed suicide because of the prank?
 
  • #256
You have proof that the nurse committed suicide because of the prank?
No more than you have proof that she didn't. And I think that, as a matter of speculation, seeing as the nurse committed suicide soon after the prank, the burden would be with you to disprove its not having had something to do with the act in question, being that it seems a matter that quite possibly conforms with the basic idea of cause and effect.

To think that the prank had nothing to do with the act is the epitome of whistling through the graveyard.
 
  • #257
I just find it odd that there wasn't a bodyguard whose job would handle all the inquiries and phone calls and vet the callers. Maybe there was and it was bypassed, I don't know. What if it wasn't pranksters who were calling but terrorists trying to fish for information?
 
  • #258
No more than you have proof that she didn't. And I think that, as a matter of speculation, seeing as the nurse committed suicide soon after the prank, the burden would be with you to disprove its not having had something to do with the act in question, being that it seems a matter that quite possibly conforms with the basic idea of cause and effect.

To think that the prank had nothing to do with the act is the epitome of whistling through the graveyard.

Oh, I thought you knew. Guess I was wrong.:floorlaugh:
 
  • #259
Please note how this radio station management gets it's ratings, page 1 #17 (KAT) a 14 year old who has been sexually assaulted, hooked up to a polygraph machine, on live air, i see that as, mental abuse, low and nasty (poor kid) but some see it as entertainment.

Where is the line on what is entertainment? I do not find humiliation entertaining, and these things go world wide or viral, never to be erased. But its all about the ratings.

The 2 DJs are now in a safe house with body guards, the radio station might lose its licence, lucky for the DJs notoriaty is not a bad thing in their bussiness.
But the nurse would of been black listed.
 
  • #260
Jacintha Saldanha suicide note criticised hospital staff (Guardian)
One of the three apparent suicide notes left by the nurse at the centre of the royal hoax phone call criticised staff at the King Edward VII hospital where she worked, the Guardian has learned.
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The dead woman's family has been given typed copies of the three handwritten notes by the police and has read the contents, the Guardian has been told.

One note deals with the hoax call by the DJs from 2Day FM, another details her requests for her funeral, and the third addresses her employers, the hospital, and contains criticism of staff there, the Guardian understands from two separate sources.
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the rest at Guardian link above
 

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