UK - Nurse duped by prankster regarding royal, found dead.

[nao]

http://www.news.com.au/world/dayfm-...icising-hospital/story-fndir2ev-1226536426193

Probably the same story as wfgodot. Must admit i find it amusing to see the above media's attitude and wording subtly changing.

Somebody told me or maybe i read it on a bathroom wall,
be careful what you wish for ; every action has a reaction; do not do anything you do not want seen on the front page(the last one made me sneaky)
But the radio station did want to be on the front page, they got their wish, there was a reaction to their action, and if it was not this nurse, sooner or later they would break someone.

 

[JeannaT]

I am a little surprised by how far some media pranks go - but honestly, it's beyond belief that this would be the true cause of a suicide.

Sad, but as a society we really need to recognize suicides and causes for what they are - and not simply pin it on the last kind of upsetting thing that happened to the person before they killed themself.

 

[nao]

Well from the (i'm old) people i know who have commited suicide, its a past they can't find peace with, medical, or something -the last thing- they emotionally don't(can't) want to deal with. Jacintha cut her wrists and hung her self, she wanted out.
turbans, burkars, the outside is starting to be accepted -but - but the fragile inner, personal,cultural values, we are not all the same. I feel it would be sad if we were.

 

[LietKynes]

If I were Jacinthas' family... I'd want the original copies of the suicide notes. If for nothing else, it was the last communication from her. Who is keeping the original notes ?
Don't think there's a need to keep them secret.
I still fail to understand why that hospital couldn't afford a p.m. receptionist.

 

[jjenny]

No more than you have proof that she didn't. And I think that, as a matter of speculation, seeing as the nurse committed suicide soon after the prank, the burden would be with you to disprove its not having had something to do with the act in question, being that it seems a matter that quite possibly conforms with the basic idea of cause and effect.

To think that the prank had nothing to do with the act is the epitome of whistling through the graveyard.

And apparently one of the three notes she left does address the prank.

 

[jjenny]

I am a little surprised by how far some media pranks go - but honestly, it's beyond belief that this would be the true cause of a suicide.

Sad, but as a society we really need to recognize suicides and causes for what they are - and not simply pin it on the last kind of upsetting thing that happened to the person before they killed themself.

Well that upsetting thing could be a trigger without which that person wouldn't have killed themselves.

 

[mikeysmommom]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pital-staff-treatment-days-leading-death.html

Hoax call nurse 'left suicide note criticising senior hospital staff over her treatment in days leading up to her death'

Seems like the Hospital lied and pinned it on the DJ's
Also in the article
Her grieving husband is understood to be furious and wants an inquiry into the hospital
I am sure her husband has read all 3 letters and he is furious at the hospital but I did not see where he is furious at the DJ's.

 

[cluciano63]

I had a feeling that the hospital was more harsh with her than they were admitting. Of course the whole thing never should have happened, but apparently they were not as kind and understanding about it as they would have the public believe. If it is true that she wrote about how she was treated by the hospital, then I can't see any reason why she would be untruthful at such a time.

 

[Estelle]

Why did they give the husband a typed copy of the suicide notes rather than a photocopy?

The notes could have been forged as they seem to have had time to do that or she could have been forced to write them to make it look like a suicide.

Do you think injury to the wrists means that she actually slashed them or could someone else have done it?

What I am trying to suggest is that this "suicide" could have been staged after she was already dead.

Does anyone else see that possibility?

 

[21merc7]

I'm going to guess the notes are being held for the investigation, and/or as wfgodot mentioned earlier, if there is anything negative about the Royal's the family will never receive them or see actual photo copies. Unless of course some legal action is taken, however, I don't live over there, so don't know if they would still be held "under seal" or not.

 

[Estelle]

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/life/health/who-killed-jacintha-saldanha/

Please read this article as it is very well researched and puts the blame on the lack of security in the hospital. It suggests that the hospital "assisted her suicide" and the DJs have been made the scapegoats. Lord Glenarthur has a lot to answer for. There is a list of questions for him in this article.

 

[Donjeta]

Why did they give the husband a typed copy of the suicide notes rather than a photocopy?

The notes could have been forged as they seem to have had time to do that or she could have been forced to write them to make it look like a suicide.

Do you think injury to the wrists means that she actually slashed them or could someone else have done it?

What I am trying to suggest is that this "suicide" could have been staged after she was already dead.

Does anyone else see that possibility?

I think the medical examiner should be able to tell if the wrist injuries were pre- or post mortem since if the person is already dead when they're cut it doesn't bleed the same way.

Some articles I saw earlier said she was still alive and conscious when found.
This has now apparently been retracted.

An Indian-origin nurse, who was found hanging after being duped by a prank call from two Australian DJs, was still alive when she was discovered in her flat and attempts were made to revive her, British media reported on Wednesday, ahead of the release of her autopsy report.
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"Initial official statements suggested that she was alive but unconscious when she was discovered, however it is now understood she was found dead," Sky News reported.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...hen-found-hanging-report/Article1-971933.aspx

 

[cityslick]

I had a feeling that the hospital was more harsh with her than they were admitting. Of course the whole thing never should have happened, but apparently they were not as kind and understanding about it as they would have the public believe. If it is true that she wrote about how she was treated by the hospital, then I can't see any reason why she would be untruthful at such a time.

Right because again the hospital probably had procedures in place for this kind of thing and the procedures weren't followed so to them they place the blame on the nurses who took the call. This isn't the first time some celebrity was in a hospital and everyone knew it and you can't tell me that hospitals have never fielded phony calls trying to get info on said celebrities.

I'm not removing blame from the instigator (the DJ's) because that's just what they did, they instigated the sequence of events. But a whole ton of employees screw up and get chewed out by their employer and they don't go committing suicide either. I'm curious to know how much pressure the hospital put on the nurse. Usually most places just outright fire you.

 

[jjenny]

Why would anyone kill her? It's just silly. She isn't even the one who talked about the condition, she just transferred the call.
I think she probably tried to kill herself by cutting her wrists. When that didn't work she hanged herself.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Nurse Jacintha Saldanha criticized hospital staff in suicide note after DJs' prank call: report


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...-suicide-note-article-1.1220103#ixzz2F6iZfHY5

 

[badhorsie]

I just find it odd that there wasn't a bodyguard whose job would handle all the inquiries and phone calls and vet the callers. Maybe there was and it was bypassed, I don't know. What if it wasn't pranksters who were calling but terrorists trying to fish for information?

This doesn't make sense to me either. There must have been specific royal security at the hospital.

The nurse acting as receptionist doesn't surprise me at all though, having worked at prestigious private LDN hospitals myself, I can verify that if they can pinch a penny then they will. Even at my job now I have to carry a phone in my pocket at evenings and weekends

 

[badhorsie]

If this witch hunt continues we'll have two suicidal Australian DJ's...does anyone want that? Everyone is criticising the "prank" but bullying the DJ's themselves, without even realising the irony and the effect their attacks arehaving on these two young people who are now trapped in a nightmare.

They were just doing their jobs as instructed, as we all do, every day.

They do not deserve the sort of horrific bullying they are recieving in the press, or on various forums. They are young, innocent, and absolutely gutted at this nurse's actions. Do people wish them dead too?

And there is no way one screw up at works results in a suicide. No way in HELL.

There's more to this than meets the eye.

Last time I checked suicide was actually illegal, so why isn't anyone bashing the nurse for breaking the law and leaving her two kids without a mother? Oh and doing it in the home, so the kids could come home and find her body?

Suicide hasn't been illegal in the UK since 1961 and I am reeling at the harshness of your post :what:
Many bad work situations have led to suicides and this nurse hung herself in her staff accommodation, not at home

 

[brit1981]

Not a crime but didn't she violate hospital protocol by transferring the call to the ward? Or is it that anytime someone calls and pretends they are a family member (or even a friend) they get transferred to the ward and it's up to the nurse at the nurse's station to determine if it's legitimate or not?

Yes, it is against the data protection act for this information to be given out to anyone, even a confirmed relative. When I was in hospital, the staff would only confirm I was a patient to people who telephoned. In this case it is worth noting that the staff were led to believe (even if the phrase the queen was not used), that they were speaking to the head of state and so would be more likely to obey what the caller was saying - again they may have felt that if they upset the head of state their jobs and residency may have been in danger.

This would explain the stress on the nurse, they had good reason to worry about losing their jobs, and possibly even their right to reside in the UK.

These DJs were very happy facing the consequences of their act when they thought the only consequences were good for them. They were happy to not give two hoots about the fact they had broken the law, the fact they had broadcast illegally obtained private medical information, or the fact the nurses would have to face the consequences.
It is only after the suicide that they no longer wish to have to face the consequences of their actions, and it seems this is because it has dawned on them that the consequences might just be bad for them too.

Although I wonder if I am the only one to notice a slight undercurrent of racism. Once it was revealed the nurse was Indian, they were going on about how it was never their intention to do what they did as they assumed the bad accents woudl be picked up. It comes across as blaming the nurse for not being able to differentiate between the accents.

I really hope the DJs face prosecution for broadcastign and obtaining this information, but I have a feeling that because they broke the law for amusement it may be considered acceptable by many.

 

[wfgodot]

Tragic suicide note to DJs written by nurse after royal hoax call: I hold you responsible (Daily Mail)

The nurse who committed suicide after the royal hoax phone call left a note telling the two DJs behind the prank they were responsible for her death, according to sources close to the family.

In one of three apparent suicide notes, Jacintha Saldanha wrote a short letter in which she expressed her deep anger at the Australian radio presenters and blamed them for her tragic death.

Ms Saldanha, 46, was found hanged with a scarf at her accommodation at the King Edward VII's Hospital in London, where the Duchess of Cambridge was being treated for severe morning sickness.
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more at the link and don't forget the "according to sources close to the family" caveat

 

[nao]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/ratings-rule-in-x-rated-radio/story-fndo317g-1226537461802

Just a bit of info about 2DayFM radio