UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #11

[Tortoise]

In my view it would be quite easy as typically they're very small printouts - 2" x3" roughly.

Are they not supposed to be put in baby's records or attached to a chart or anything?

 

[marynnu]

Are they not supposed to be put in baby's records or attached to a chart or anything?

In my experience, yes, but the readings are also copied onto a chart so the printout itself is not totally necessary. It's the chart which forms part of the medical records. But I can't speak for how things are done at CoC.

 

[marynnu]

Why are the meds recorded on a paper towel? I can understand it being used as a last resort but was there not the actual med note file to hand?

Because in an emergency there is a lot happening very quickly. It's easier & quicker to scribble on something, then you can copy it over neatly into the notes afterwards. Paper towels are always to hand!

 

[Tortoise]

Why are the meds recorded on a paper towel? I can understand it being used as a last resort but was there not the actual med note file to hand?

I imagine during CPR there are doctors calling out for meds and things and it's probably not that easy to get close to the cot and fill in charts and notes neatly. As long as it gets recorded to be able to write up afterwards, as the nurse said.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Makes allot of sense actually. You wouldn’t want to be obstructive at all. Also makes sense to copy it later in more legible writing.

 

[Tortoise]

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A nurse, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is now in the witness box. She is recalling the events of Child M's collapse, she said 'Lucy and I walked over, she said he wasn't breathing, she asked for a crash call to go out'

She added: 'Lucy administered recuse breaths...I was beside Lucy'

 

[Sweeper2000]

Interesting it was reported before that the nurse had her back turned and when she turned around LL was beside the cot with the oxygen crashing calling for help.

 

[GoodDayToYouSir]

In my experience, yes, but the readings are also copied onto a chart so the printout itself is not totally necessary. It's the chart which forms part of the medical records. But I can't speak for how things are done at CoC.

Is it usual to keep the paper towel once you have transcribed the notes from it into the official medical records? Or do you usually throw it away?

 

[DianaWW]

In my view it would be quite easy as typically they're very small printouts - 2" x3" roughly.

Thank you, that's really helpful

 

[marynnu]

Is it usual to keep the paper towel once you have transcribed the notes from it into the official medical records? Or do you usually throw it away?
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You'd just discard it. It's scrap paper effectively.

 

[marynnu]

Is it usual to keep the paper towel once you have transcribed the notes from it into the official medical records? Or do you usually throw it away?

You'd discard it. It's scrap paper effectively.

 

[bbsaz]

I agree. IMO simple mottling is not that unusual, for example if a baby is cold or unwell. But a flitting rash? I personally have never seen such a thing, and it seems neither had the medical & nursing staff on this unit.

Yes, alot of people saw it alot of times....
And thought it was strange in colour and presentation. Very relevant imo

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

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Dr Anthony Ukoh is now in the witness box, Dr Ukoh was working a day shift at the Countess of Chester on 9 April 2016


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Dan O'Donoghue

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Dr Ukoh is reading over his notes from the morning of 9 April. He says Child M 'looked well, he was settled. There wasn't any major concerns, no red flags. There wasn't any signs he was in any pain'

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

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Dr Ukoh is recalling the 'frantic' resus call he and other medics received shortly after 16:00. He says it took just under 30mins to stabilise the boy










Dan O'Donoghue

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Dr Ukoh tells the court that when he arrived on the neonatal unit Child M 'appeared lifeless'

 

[Becci]

Agree also. But the strange mottling is relevant imo too.

Hi did the strange mottling appear on the babies who died or the babies who died & the ones who survived?

 

[Tortoise]

"Simon Driver, prosecuting, told the court the paper towel – along with a blood gas measurement report for Child M – was discovered in a Morrisons shopping bag beneath a bed in a bedroom at the defendant's former address in Westbourne Road, Chester, on July 4 2018.

Mr Driver asked Mrs Griffith: “Have you ever taken a blood gas record home with you?”

Mrs Griffith said: “No.”

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Ben Myers KC, defending, suggested to Mrs Griffith that some of the notes on the paper towel were also written by Letby."

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Note detailing baby's medication found in Letby's home, court told

 

[Becci]

Not sure you can give someone diabetes!

I wondered that to loll

 

[Becci]

I wondered that to loll

I thought that to not wondered sorry

 

[marynnu]

I thought that to not wondered sorry

Pardon? (Just teasing!).

 

[Tortoise]

Very strange about keeping these notes IMO. If you find it in a pocket when you get home why not just put it straight in the bin, instead of placing it in a bag and then keeping that bag under your bed. Too many transfers of this piece of rubbish from one place to another IMO.