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It definitely won't be anonymous in the court. You have a right to challenge your accuser which you cannot do effectively if you don't know who they are.
UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #2
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Yes, of course. We have seen this in other trials. No msm reports, but names all openly known in court.
I also have a certain degree of faith in the case here
12:33pm
The jury are being advised they are not prohibited from using social media, but they should ignore comments made on there in relation to the trial, and to understand that media reports will be "selective" and focus on only parts of the trial.
Jurors are also urged not to research additional evidence, outside of the courtroom, in relation to the case in any way.
12:30pm
Mr Justice Goss adds the instinctive reaction to charges of this nature, of murdering and attempting to murder babies, is one of "horror".
He says the jury must put emotions to one side and consider the evidence "calmly, rationally, fairly and dispassionately."
12:28pm
The judge is asking the jurors not to be "anxious" during the course of this trial, explaining there are a number of serious cases being tried up and down the country, and to keep an open mind until they have heard all the evidence.
12:24pm
Addressing the jury, the judge, Mr Justice James Goss, is now explaining the role of the jurors for this trial, adding they will have noted the "common theme" of charges listed - those of murder and attempted murder.
12:20pm
The jury is now being informed of the 22 charges Lucy Letby faces - seven of murder, 15 of attempted murder.
All charges relate to offences alleged during her time at the Countess of Chester Hospital's neonatal unit between June 2015 and June 2016.
Letby denies all 22 charges.
From The Standard
The jury are being advised they are not prohibited from using social media, but they should ignore comments made on there in relation to the trial, and to understand that media reports will be "selective" and focus on only parts of the trial.
Jurors are also urged not to research additional evidence, outside of the courtroom, in relation to the case in any way.
12:30pm
Mr Justice Goss adds the instinctive reaction to charges of this nature, of murdering and attempting to murder babies, is one of "horror".
He says the jury must put emotions to one side and consider the evidence "calmly, rationally, fairly and dispassionately."
12:28pm
The judge is asking the jurors not to be "anxious" during the course of this trial, explaining there are a number of serious cases being tried up and down the country, and to keep an open mind until they have heard all the evidence.
12:24pm
Addressing the jury, the judge, Mr Justice James Goss, is now explaining the role of the jurors for this trial, adding they will have noted the "common theme" of charges listed - those of murder and attempted murder.
12:20pm
The jury is now being informed of the 22 charges Lucy Letby faces - seven of murder, 15 of attempted murder.
All charges relate to offences alleged during her time at the Countess of Chester Hospital's neonatal unit between June 2015 and June 2016.
Letby denies all 22 charges.
From The Standard
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Indeed! I'm still saying she's innocent until such time as I see some very compelling evidence.
What I find strange is that a raft of new charges suddenly appear at the very start of the trial. Have they just managed to acquire evidence to support these new counts?
12:35pm
The jury are also advised not to talk about the case to family or friends over the next six months, with Mr Justice Goss saying there will be "many opportunities" for members of the jury to mix with people they know during that time.
The judge is reminding them that doing so would be an offence, for which they could be prosecuted, and the integrity of the trial could be at risk.
www.chesterstandard.co.uk
The jury are also advised not to talk about the case to family or friends over the next six months, with Mr Justice Goss saying there will be "many opportunities" for members of the jury to mix with people they know during that time.
The judge is reminding them that doing so would be an offence, for which they could be prosecuted, and the integrity of the trial could be at risk.
Recap: Prosecution opens trial of Lucy Letby accused of Countess of Chester Hospital baby murders
THE trial of former Countess of Chester Hospital nurse Lucy Letby, who is accused of multiple baby murders, is due to finalise its jury and hear…
It may be that they are trying to ensure Justice is done especially for the families..if for example they have evidence that LL tried to kill or cause harm but because of the lack of criminal post mortems at the time they can't prove exactly the cause of death because of the babies being so unwell or premature.
They won't want Justice not to be done
12:43pm
Members of the jury are also being told that court days during the trial will typically last until about 4.15pm, but can go later in exceptional circumstances, and can sometimes finish earlier.
12:39pm
The jury is also being told that any deliberations they make at the conclusion of the trial have a "lifetime prohibition" from being revealed in public, and each juror takes the contents of what was discussed in the deliberation room in relation to the case as secret "for as long as they are alive".
www.chesterstandard.co.uk
Members of the jury are also being told that court days during the trial will typically last until about 4.15pm, but can go later in exceptional circumstances, and can sometimes finish earlier.
12:39pm
The jury is also being told that any deliberations they make at the conclusion of the trial have a "lifetime prohibition" from being revealed in public, and each juror takes the contents of what was discussed in the deliberation room in relation to the case as secret "for as long as they are alive".
Recap: Prosecution opens trial of Lucy Letby accused of Countess of Chester Hospital baby murders
THE trial of former Countess of Chester Hospital nurse Lucy Letby, who is accused of multiple baby murders, is due to finalise its jury and hear…
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I have to say I'm really quite surprised by the added extra charges.
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Speaking personally, I find things much easier to refer back to in a paper system, rather than electronic. I find it quite difficult to refer back to specific small points on a computer but I can look at a pile of papers and recall where approximately I read something previously. Yes, I know there are word search features but it's not the same as being able to flick through a book or a pile of papers.
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So, they are alleging poisoning of some description!
12:51pm
Prosecuting, Nicholas Johnson KC said everyone should be aware of the city of Chester, and its busy general hospital. Said hospital includes a neonatal unit, caring for premature and sick babies.
"It is a hospital like so many others in the UK," he added. "But unlike so many others, within the neonatal unit, a poisoner was at work."
12:51pm
Prosecuting, Nicholas Johnson KC said everyone should be aware of the city of Chester, and its busy general hospital. Said hospital includes a neonatal unit, caring for premature and sick babies.
"It is a hospital like so many others in the UK," he added. "But unlike so many others, within the neonatal unit, a poisoner was at work."
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They've started already:
Recap: Prosecution opens trial of Lucy Letby accused of Countess of Chester Hospital baby murders
THE trial of former Countess of Chester Hospital nurse Lucy Letby, who is accused of multiple baby murders, is due to finalise its jury and hear…
1m ago12:54
"It's a hospital like so many others in the UK," he tells the court.
"But unlike many other hospitals in the UK and unlike many other neonnatal units in the UK, within the neonatal unit in the Countess of Chester a poisoner was at work."
He then cites the infant mortality rates - which saw a "significant rise" in the number of babies dying, and serious or catastrophic collapses.
Some of the collapses and recoveries "defied" treatment expectations, he says.
"Babies who had not been unstable at all suddenly severely deteriorated.
"Sometimes babies who had been sick and then on the mend deteriorated for no apparent reason.
"Having searched for a cause, which they were unable to find, the consultants found the inexplicable collapses and deaths did have one common denominator.
"The presence of one of the neonatal unit nurses.
"That nurse was Lucy Letby."
news.sky.com
'Within the Countess of Chester Hospital, a poisoner was at work'
Opening for the prosecution, Mr Johnson begins by describing the Countess of Chester hospital."It's a hospital like so many others in the UK," he tells the court.
"But unlike many other hospitals in the UK and unlike many other neonnatal units in the UK, within the neonatal unit in the Countess of Chester a poisoner was at work."
He then cites the infant mortality rates - which saw a "significant rise" in the number of babies dying, and serious or catastrophic collapses.
Some of the collapses and recoveries "defied" treatment expectations, he says.
"Babies who had not been unstable at all suddenly severely deteriorated.
"Sometimes babies who had been sick and then on the mend deteriorated for no apparent reason.
"Having searched for a cause, which they were unable to find, the consultants found the inexplicable collapses and deaths did have one common denominator.
"The presence of one of the neonatal unit nurses.
"That nurse was Lucy Letby."
Lucy Letby trial - latest: Nurse 'adamant' she's done nothing to harm any of the babies in the case as defence begins
Latest updates on day four of the Lucy Letby trial, with the prosecution showing the court handwritten "confessions" from the nurse in which she allegedly admitted she was "evil", and the defence saying the hospital was "well out of its depth". Letby denies all charges.
news.sky.com
Yes just seenThey've started already:
Recap: Prosecution opens trial of Lucy Letby accused of Countess of Chester Hospital baby murders
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And statistics being employed right from the start, as we all thought they would be.
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How can they prove poison though without toxicology reports?
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