Found Safe UK - Owami Davies, 24, from Chafford Hundred, Essex, last seen in Croydon, Surrey, 6 Jul 2022

  • #101
Has anything been said about why it has taken so long for the met police to make appeals to the public? She was reported missing on the 6th and the first appeal from the met police I can find was on the 31st.
 
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  • #103
Where did she get the change of clothes from? Did she leave home in those sliders? Her photos from before she went missing show a very well groomed young woman. What happened?

She was staying somewhere <modsnip - no link to this info> and in an increasingly terrible state? Addiction and debts?

This is such an upsetting story.

The lack of front page media coverage really does prove that missing white woman syndrome is a thing.
 
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  • #104
Where did she get the change of clothes from? Did she leave home in those sliders? Her photos from before she went missing show a very well groomed young woman. What happened?

She was staying somewhere <modsnip- no link to this info> and in an increasingly terrible state? Addiction and debts?

This is such an upsetting story.

The lack of front page media coverage really does prove that missing white woman syndrome is a thing.


I am not sure those sliders are her own from home,they look far too big for her.
 
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  • #105
Five people have been arrested during the course of the investigation for offences of suspected murder or kidnap.

All have since been released on bail, whilst the investigation team follow up on further enquiries

 
  • #106
Has anything been said about why it has taken so long for the met police to make appeals to the public? She was reported missing on the 6th and the first appeal from the met police I can find was on the 31st.

Croydon Police made their first appeal on 26 July tbf, but that's still quite a lag considering her case was passed to them on 16th.

There originally seems to have been a slowness to investigate on the part of Essex Police that would bear scrutiny imo.

I think the slowness in finding new sightings of her now is mainly about the exceedingly labour-intensive nature of interrogating CCTV, plus imo she is quite a chameleon in her appearance (hair extensions/relaxing, etc) which won't be helping. It's good that her friends are posting attractive looking pictures of her to try and get the media coverage, but it doesn't help anyone recognise her in her most recent state.

JMO
 
  • #107
I am not sure those sliders are her own from home,they look far too big for her.

Yes, that was my thought too.

I wonder if she has been staying somewhere dodgy, like a crack house, and was sent out to buy stuff from the shop. What did she buy? Maybe an abusive relationship with someone who dragged her into stuff she wasn't expecting and couldn't cope with? She owed money to someone because of it? Drugs most likely?

The cctv of her walking down the road at night with someone very close behind her--either following her or perhaps more likely he was with her, just she had to walk in front--is very sinister. I agree @whitehall that the white van does not seem to be actually parked up there but more waiting for something, engine running, hence the brake lights. He had all the time in the world to drive off, why go right in front of OD and her "companion" like that? And the car leaving at the same time could be nothing, but it's definitely odd under the circumstances. Wasn't she seen on CCTV later the same day in the red top? So this is not the last time she was seen? Or am I confused here?
 
  • #108
I am not sure those sliders are her own from home,they look far too big for her.

Excellent spot @Skigh, and no thanks to Sky for putting the captioning over them! If you freeze the image it's more obvious.

Owami slides.jpg


It also becomes clear that she isn't holding her side. If you look at the angle of her wrist she seems to be either holding something under her overshirt/jacket or perhaps reaching into an inside pocket.

 
  • #109
Yes, that was my thought too.

I wonder if she has been staying somewhere dodgy, like a crack house, and was sent out to buy stuff from the shop. What did she buy? Maybe an abusive relationship with someone who dragged her into stuff she wasn't expecting and couldn't cope with? She owed money to someone because of it? Drugs most likely?

The cctv of her walking down the road at night with someone very close behind her--either following her or perhaps more likely he was with her, just she had to walk in front--is very sinister. I agree @whitehall that the white van does not seem to be actually parked up there but more waiting for something, engine running, hence the brake lights. He had all the time in the world to drive off, why go right in front of OD and her "companion" like that? And the car leaving at the same time could be nothing, but it's definitely odd under the circumstances. Wasn't she seen on CCTV later the same day in the red top? So this is not the last time she was seen? Or am I confused here?

July 7
00.03 am is the cctv sighting in Derby Road with the man

01.20 am is the photo in Clarendon Road

12.33pm is the cctv just released tonight
 
  • #110
I'm not disagreeing that drugs may have played some role in Owami's disappearance, but I'm curious to know what evidence for it you feel you've seen? The Find Owami twitter page is just a series of appeals for info, in hopes of keeping her in the headlines, as far as I can see, featuring a lot of pictures of her looking attractive.

Considering this seems to have been her usual well groomed look...

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(Picture source: https://twitter.com/helpusfindowami)

... this really doesn't scream 'party' to me:

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(Picture source: OwamiDaviesnew)

But I agree it's very hard to get a handle on why she was in Croydon, apparently voluntarily, without accepting the idea that she at least had secrets of some sort.

Do we know that in the picture she looks distressed in she was looking into a car? I was one of the people who suggested that but I've seen nothing that confirms or refutes it so I'd be interested if something definitive has now been said. Personally, I'm starting to think that that picture may not be genuine, as the light on the houses seems to come from a different angle and source compared with the light on her face. If its authenticity can't be confirmed, that might account for why the police have hesitated to announce it as a last sighting.

Just my opinion, as ever.

Well if the police have had hands on of the phone that took the photo, then the photos meta data may provide some useful info to confirm where and when the photo was taken (I know we are pretty certain where is was taken from Street View).

It doesn't look like a selfie and we know it was posted on the Met Police Croydon Twitter feed on 28th July, before the first suspect was locked up on 1st August, so it's unlikely one of them took it.
 
  • #111
Well if the police have had hands on of the phone that took the photo, then the photos meta data will hopefully provide some useful info which as confirm where and when the photo was taken (I know we are pretty certain where is was taken from Street View).

It doesn't look like a selfie and we know it was posted on the Met Police Croydon Twitter feed on 28th July, before the first suspect was locked up on 1st August, so it's unlikely one of them took it.
It looks like a bodycam still to me.
 
  • #112
I’ve thought drugs involved for a while on this and that latest photo absolutely looks like the ‘day after’ an all nighter.
 
  • #113
I’ve thought drugs involved for a while on this and that latest photo absolutely looks like the ‘day after’ an all nighter.
If she was found sleeping on the streets, she'd probably also look like that, in all fairness...
 
  • #114
I’ve thought drugs involved for a while on this and that latest photo absolutely looks like the ‘day after’ an all nighter.

I'll be honest.....based on my experience of dealing with people high on illicit drugs, OD just doesn't have that glassy eyed, spaced out look.

To me she looks like someone who could be in the midst of a mental health crisis of some kind.

JMO
 
  • #115
I'll be honest.....based on my experience of dealing with people high on illicit drugs, OD just doesn't have that glassy eyed, spaced out look.

To me she looks like someone who could be in the midst of a mental health crisis of some kind.

JMO

Based on your experience, do you think she was under some sort of coersive control which prevented her returning home ?
 
  • #116
Croydon Police made their first appeal on 26 July tbf, but that's still quite a lag considering her case was passed to them on 16th.

There originally seems to have been a slowness to investigate on the part of Essex Police that would bear scrutiny imo.

I think the slowness in finding new sightings of her now is mainly about the exceedingly labour-intensive nature of interrogating CCTV, plus imo she is quite a chameleon in her appearance (hair extensions/relaxing, etc) which won't be helping. It's good that her friends are posting attractive looking pictures of her to try and get the media coverage, but it doesn't help anyone recognise her in her most recent state.

JMO
From above:
There originally seems to have been a slowness to investigate on the part of Essex Police that would bear scrutiny imo.

Really? Based on what? Essex Police were on to it from first investigations, putting out an initial appeal on 11th. Things take time to be looked at, and not everything is put in the public domain.
 
  • #117
Based on your experience, do you think she was under some sort of coersive control which prevented her returning home ?

The thing is we don't even know where home was at the time she went missing.

Was she living in Croydon as it was convenient for her NHS employment as she nearly finished her training and had a post in London?

As for coercive control....it takes many forms and as the offence concerns those in close relationships in the same household.....it's unlikely to apply.

In terms of kidnap, then that would involve either force or fraud to take someone off against their will. That people were arrested on suspicion of this implies that the police had enough to suspect that this had occurred. So a car may have been involved, but not necessarily so.

I don't really like to second guess the detail of what may have happened as we know so little of what the police know.
 
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  • #118
From above:
There originally seems to have been a slowness to investigate on the part of Essex Police that would bear scrutiny imo.

Really? Based on what? Essex Police were on to it from first investigations, putting out an initial appeal on 11th. Things take time to be looked at, and not everything is put in the public domain.

Bit of context:

The police force/police division that has responsibility for the missing person investigation is the one which covers the home address that the person is missing from.

Any amount of confusion could have occurred in that she was missing from Essex but believed to have gone to Croydon and possibly 'living' there or rather not at her mums home address.

There was an instance of a RTC victim lying in a ditch whilst two forces squabbled over which side of the road the ditch was on....as the force boundary ran down the middle of the road.....utterly shameful...they should have both gone!

At some point, for whatever reason the met picked it up, probably when evidence identified possible foul play in Croydon.

There are various definitions for when a missing person is treated as possible murder. For some forces it needs evidence of harm, e.g. blood found in boot of car. Other forces go down that line when there is nothing to indicate the person went anywhere of their own volition.

The Met say OD is still a missing person....yet they had enough suspicion to lock 5 up for murder or kidnap....that frazzles my brain....I suspect it's all very political.
 
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  • #119
The thing is we don't even know where home was at the time she went missing.

Was she living in Croydon as it was convenient for her NHS employment as she nearly finished her training and had a post in London?

As for coercive control....it takes many forms and as the offence concerns those in close relationships in the same household.....it's unlikely to apply.

In terms of kidnap, then that would involve either force or fraud to take someone off against their will. That people were arrested on suspicion of this implies that the police had enough to suspect that this had occurred. So a car may have been involved, but not necessarily so.

I don't really like to second guess the detail of what may have happened as we know so little of what the police know.
Thank you for your reply. I had presumed she had been living with her mother in Essex. My thoughts about coersive control were veering towards th possibility she might have been emotionally blackmailed ,perhaps someone threatening to tell her family or work about something in her life if she did not do what was asked of her.
 
  • #120
Bit of context:

The police force/police division that has responsibility for the missing person investigation is the one which covers the home address that the person is missing from.

Any amount of confusion could have occurred in that she was missing from Essex but believed to have gone to Croydon and possibly 'living' there or rather not at her mums home address.

At some point, for whatever reason the met picked it up, probably when evidence identified possible foul play in Croydon.

There are various definitions for when a missing person is treated as possible murder. For some forces it needs evidence of harm, e.g. blood found in boot of car. Other forces go down that line when there is nothing to indicate the person went anywhere of their own volition.

The Met say OD is still a missing person....yet they had enough suspicion to lock 5 up for murder or kidnap....that frazzles my brain....I suspect it's all very political.
My brain is also frazzled by this case . One thing which I keep thinking about is what she was wearing. In photos she shows she is very well groomed and enjoys wearing nice clothes yet in the cctv the clothes she is wearing seem so far away from her usual style .

Could you explain what you mean by it all being very political?
 

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