Found Safe UK - Owami Davies, 24, from Chafford Hundred, Essex, last seen in Croydon, Surrey, 6 Jul 2022

[Whitehall 1212]

The wording suggests that they do not have the phone, so is it fair enough to suggest the phone is dead?

Then it's fair to say either OD left it at home, has lost it, broken it or it has no charge.

JMO

 

[Whitehall 1212]

After Milly Dowler’s poor parents talked about newspapers hacking Milly’s mobile, and the parents thinking she was alive as she (actually the hacker for the paper) listened to the answerphone messages, would any current media be willing to risk hacking Owami’s phone, do you think?

After the previous scandal, I very much hope not. It would be utter madness to risk getting caught.

JMO

 

[Allabouttrial]

Upthread…several posts with info from LE and MSM.

Thank you! I missed the twitter post.

 

[Kangsul]

Just finished reading through this thread, cant stop thinking about how sad this story is. Does anyone know if dad was in the picture?

 

[Alyce]

What clues would the mobile phone offer?

I read that as a shorthand way of saying she has not used her mobile phone / it has been switched off ? since she has been missing, so no way of tracking her location.


edited to add :: it could also be - as Whitehall said above ( post 361 ) that Owami left her phone at home. However, unless she was in the habit of leaving her phone at home ( most young adults would not do so ) then I would have expected her mother to raise the alarm much faster, rather than waiting for 2 days.

 

[Skigh]

I did wonder if she sold her phone to buy alcohol or someone stole it when she was asleep. Maybe someone when to speak to her when she was in the doorway and stole some of her possessions.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Can anybody hack somebody's phone legally?

Is Owami incapacitated?

She is a grown up person and if she decided to leave home and wander - it is her choice.

Thousands decide to leave everything and start anew.

I guess she decided to meet/live with her boyfriend.

He was absent/ or decided to break up with her.

She met with those 5, they must have been seen together b/c Police suspected them.

But instead of being kidnapped/murdered, she wandered away.

As cctv from 7th showed.

Is she heartbroken?
Or suffers from other problems?

Who knows.

But, if she doesn't want to be found - it is her choice.
Nobody can force an adult person to treatment.

Only if this person can harm herself or others.

MOO!!!

I am sensing that she probably has a (temporary) state of mental unwellness that is considered sufficient for her to not be of her usual sound mind. That in an ideal world she would need supervision and / or hospitalisation and maybe medicating until she's stable - unfortunately we live in a world where people can be that profoundly unwell but not get the right help they need. If they go wandering in that state or get a bee in their bonnet, then they are at very high risk of coming to harm or harming themselves when not in their right mind, doing things they would never normally do. Were that to be the case, then it means that legally she is not culpable for her own actions and is at the highest level of risk.

Sadly, I think there are a few people here who will know what I'm talking about here if they have a loved one who has episodes of certain types of illness.

This is just my speculation, the has been nothing in the MSM to openly state this case and it has only been alluded to.

JMO MOO

 

[Dotta]

I am sensing that she probably has a (temporary) state of mental unwellness that is considered sufficient for her to not be of her usual sound mind. That in an ideal world she would need supervision and / or hospitalisation and maybe medicating until she's stable - unfortunately we live in a world where people can be that profoundly unwell but not get the right help they need. If they go wandering in that state or get a bee in their bonnet, then they are at very high risk of coming to harm or harming themselves when not in their right mind, doing things they would never normally do. Were that to be the case, then it means that legally she is not culpable for her own actions and is at the highest level of risk.

Sadly, I think there are a few people here who will know what I'm talking about here if they have a loved one who has episodes of certain types of illness.

This is just my speculation, the has been nothing in the MSM to openly state this case and it has only been alluded to.

JMO MOO

Then, I guess, the choice of career is wrong - as it means to be responsible for the vulnerable.

MOO

 

[Konstantin]

Then, I guess, the choice of career is wrong - as it means to be responsible for the vulnerable.

MOO

Not necessarily. Sometimes people can have temporary periods of sickness that can be treated. OD will have a lot of empathy and understanding of others who also suffer from mental illnesses. Having a mental illness doesn't mean someone is permanently incapable or cannot have a responsible position.

Let's hope that OD is found really soon.

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

The mother of Owami Davies has revealed the student nurse spoke to her younger brother on the day she disappeared seven weeks ago but refused his help.

Nicol Davies, 46, had tracked the 24-year-old using the Find My iPhone app when she failed to arrive at her local gym.

Owami’s 15-year-old sibling went to Chafford Gorges Nature Park in Grays, Essex and found her sat on a bench drinking.

But he became upset when she wouldn’t return to the family’s nearby home in Chafford Hundred on July 4. She was reported missing to Essex Police two days later.

Detectives believe Ms Davies could be sleeping rough as they trawl through 117 reported sightings across the UK.

Missing Owami Davies spoke to her brother the day she vanished, mum reveals

Nicol Davies tracked down her 24-year-old daughter using the Find My iPhone app when she failed to arrive at her local gym

www.standard.co.uk

 

[HLC35]

This is only in relation to myself and own experiences but when I was at university 20 odd years ago I left my course in the final year; I was heartbroken about a relationship ending due to him cheating and I sat on his doorstep all night in tears whilst he was out somewhere. I got more and more depressed, stopped going out and eventually had to go home. The heart does funny things, and I was down too. I ended up leaving my degree (for which I was on target to do very well) with only months to go. It’s something I regret doing, and yet part of me doesn’t. Young love. At the time it felt like the end of the world. Especially as I didn’t want to move back home and face my parents disappointment/ my own disappointment as I knew I’d dropped out for a boy / live with my strict and bullying dad again. Thinking of you Owami, really hope you’re ok and found soon.

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

The Owami Davies case has shown that a national missing persons database is “desperately needed,” one of the UK's foremost experts on the issue has said.

The 24-year-old missing student nurse was last seen in Croydon, south London, on July 7 and a team of 50 detectives from the Metropolitan Police are now hunting to find her after claims the force had failed to take the case seriously.

Charlie Hedges, a former British policeman and missing persons expert, said a national database would “overcome the need to constantly repeat information [between police forces]...and is something we desperately need”.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “It’s been years of toil to try and get [a national database] in place.”

“A national database would make life so much easier by the immediate uploading of information and forces being able to look at and share that information to help the investigation go forward,” he said.

Mr Hedges added that while missing persons can often be a “cinderella subject,” if an excess of £12 million can be spent on one single case, “why couldn’t we have a small proportion of that amount to set up a national database to help hundreds if not thousands of people.”

Owami Davies case shows national missing persons database is 'desperately needed'

Expert warns there has been 'years of toil' to try and implement the system, which would 'make life much easier' for police forces

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

Having a mental illness doesn't mean someone is permanently incapable or cannot have a responsible position.

Let's hope that OD is found really soon.

Being a manager of a shop and being a person who administers medications/drugs to the vulnerable/sick ppl are 2 different things, no?

MOO

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Then it's fair to say either OD left it at home, has lost it, broken it or it has no charge.

JMO

The mother has previously stated she had used the Find My iPhone app to track her, so OD initially at least had phone with her - reiterated again as in my #370 post above. I would imagine one of the other options now applies.

 

[Alyce]

Owami’s 15-year-old sibling went to Chafford Gorges Nature Park in Grays, Essex and found her sat on a bench drinking.

But he became upset when she wouldn’t return to the family’s nearby home in Chafford Hundred on July 4. She was reported missing to Essex Police two days later.

Missing Owami Davies spoke to her brother the day she vanished, mum reveals

Nicol Davies tracked down her 24-year-old daughter using the Find My iPhone app when she failed to arrive at her local gym

www.standard.co.uk

This is very sad to read

 

[Skigh]

Owami’s 15-year-old sibling went to Chafford Gorges Nature Park in Grays, Essex and found her sat on a bench drinking.

But he became upset when she wouldn’t return to the family’s nearby home in Chafford Hundred on July 4. She was reported missing to Essex Police two days later.

Missing Owami Davies spoke to her brother the day she vanished, mum reveals

Nicol Davies tracked down her 24-year-old daughter using the Find My iPhone app when she failed to arrive at her local gym

www.standard.co.uk

This is very sad to read

It is sad to read, but why did her mother not go to the park or ask for help. How long was Owami in the park. If mum was tracking her phone she must have known when she left Essex. A very different story seems to be emerging.

 

[LockHart]

Owami Davies: Murder arrests over missing student nurse

Two men are held on suspicion of murdering Owami Davies, who was last seen in south London.

www.bbc.com

Sky News reports now a fifth man arrested. Owami Davies: Fifth man arrested over disappearance of student nurse as Met Police renew appeal

What a concerning case on the limited facts we have so far.

Is that the wrong picture?

 

[Skigh]

Is that the wrong picture?

No. The wrong picture was only shown for a couple of hours before the mistake was realised and rectified.
It was from the shop Owami visited and another customer's picture was shown .

 

[Pricklykitty]

It is sad to read, but why did her mother not go to the park or ask for help. How long was Owami in the park. If mum was tracking her phone she must have known when she left Essex. A very different story seems to be emerging.

I agree a different picture does seem to be coming out, and I also question why her mum didn't go to the park, or seek help at that point. But to play devils advocate it may be Owami is close to her brother and the family felt he would be the one to get through to her. It makes me question her home life a bit though I have to admit - jmo of course

 

[Alyce]

Owami Davies: Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS trust ‘delayed’ staff appeal on missing Black colleague​

Exclusive: Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust “sat on” news of Ms Davies’ disappearance for weeks, as departments failed to report her shift absence​

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NHS colleagues of Owami Davies were only notified about her disappearance a month after she went missing, as departments failed to report that she had not turned up for shifts, ​

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Owami Davies: NHS trust ‘delayed’ staff appeal on missing Black colleague

Exclusive: Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust “sat on” news of Ms Davies’ disappearance for weeks, as departments failed to report her shift absence, The Independent has learned

www.independent.co.uk

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sorry about the heavy type !