UK pedophile gang stripped of citizenship, deportation next

[dotr]

UK pedophile gang members stripped of citizenship, deportation next

Members of the sick Rochdale sex ring. Three of whom are being booted from the UK. GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE
"Three twisted pedophiles who were members of a sick underage sex grooming gang are being stripped of their British citizenship and tossed from Blighty.

Abdul Aziz, Adil Khan and Qari Abdul Rauf were among the men jailed over sex crimes against teen girls in Manchester area town of Rochdale in 2012."

“The victims were raped callously, viciously and violently,” Lord Justice Sales told the Court of Appeal on Wednesday.
“In some cases, they were driven round Rochdale and Oldham to be made to have sex with paying customers. All the men treated the girls as though they were worthless and beyond all respect.”
"The men — eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan — fed the victims booze and drugs before “passing them” round for sex."

 

[kirkassoc]

There are no words to describe how one feels after reading an article like this. IMHO, MOO....After a fair trial, and when/if they are found guilty....I believe they should be deported....straight out of this world. For evil like this to thrive, good men need to do nothing...which is what is happening all over this politically correct world....to be politically correct....nothing is ever done....or they ship them to other countries until they can manage to slip back (which they do, in time)....ALL MOO.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Deported? Why are they not in jail for life? Personally I feel the death penalty to be appropriate, but the UK loves their rapists and killers.

 

[kirkassoc]

Deported? Why are they not in jail for life? Personally I feel the death penalty to be appropriate, but the UK loves their rapists and killers.

So sad, but so true. After watching an unbelievable amount of true crime shows, DL, 48HRS, and lots more, I have noticed that the UK, Australia and many other countries have absolute geniuses as detectives. They are unbelievably dogged and thorough. They are VERY good at finding a criminal and with proof. However, once these monsters are caught, the justice systems smacks them a little on the behind, perhaps locks them up for a short period of time (life NEVER means life, it just means until the public forgets) and lets them loose. I could name so many of these perpetrators who have been released only to be hunted down (at taxpayer expense) again in later life.

And I have never understood they got "three life sentences" because they were found guilty of murdering three people. WHO has three lives to give? Life to me means until your are no longer alive...then you're dead. The criminals have all the rights, and they know it (if they don't, their attorneys are quick to close their mouths and prevent anything being revealed relating to the current crime or the criminal's previous record). JMO, MOO. To me, previous record means "who you were" leading up to this crime. Almost like a fingerprint. JMO

 

[Shiressleuth]

UK got rid of the death penalty years ago in the '60's and has had several parliamentary votes about re-introducing it, but has always had a majority against it. There are also maximum sentences for various crimes. I'll settle for deportation if that is the only option available here.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

UK got rid of the death penalty years ago in the '60's and has had several parliamentary votes about re-introducing it, but has always had a majority against it. There are also maximum sentences for various crimes. I'll settle for deportation if that is the only option available here.

That seems to be an easy out for the monsters. They'll go to Germany or Sweden and start all over again.

 

[MarziPanda]

Life does mean life in many cases. You only hear about the few cases in which parole is finally granted, without seeing the hundreds for which parole will always be denied. Whilst there are problems with the UK's justice system, there are problems with every justice system and there is no need to exaggerate. It doesn't help matters. In this case, the media has been lightning fast to jump on the 'political correctness' train without looking at the facts. The man who forced the authorities to investigate the gang was Nazir Afzal, a muslim. There were many reasons why the police didn't want to investigate them and race was only a small part of it.

I don't think there's any need to criticise the UK's lack of a death penalty when their crimes are not punishable by death in any country bar perhaps Saudi Arabia. I for one am glad we don't have a death penalty. It's far more expensive than life in prison and the amount of botched executions and possibly innocent people being executed in the US doesn't exactly put it in good standing. It doesn't exactly seem to have stopped anyone killing anyone else in the US, either.

Deportation seems like a good solution on the surface, but only if they're being deported into a prison in their home country. Or else they're just going to do the same thing over there. It's exporting the problem to someone else. I hope the officials in these other countries are aware and keep an eye on these men. Why is nobody concerned that they will do the same thing in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but everyone seems concerned that they'll do it in Sweden, Germany, or will get back into the UK? It's probably easier to do in their home countries, too. The teen girls in Pakistan and Afghanistan matter too.

 

[Shiressleuth]

That seems to be an easy out for the monsters. They'll go to Germany or Sweden and start all over again.

If they are stripped of their UK citizenship and deported back to Pakistan and Afghanistan, how could they then legally come back to Germany or Sweden without an EU or UK passport?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

If they are stripped of their UK citizenship and deported back to Pakistan and Afghanistan, how could they then legally come back to Germany or Sweden without an EU or UK passport?

They are entering in droves without passports and getting asylum in the EU.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Life does mean life in many cases. You only hear about the few cases in which parole is finally granted, without seeing the hundreds for which parole will always be denied. Whilst there are problems with the UK's justice system, there are problems with every justice system and there is no need to exaggerate. It doesn't help matters. In this case, the media has been lightning fast to jump on the 'political correctness' train without looking at the facts. The man who forced the authorities to investigate the gang was Nazir Afzal, a muslim. There were many reasons why the police didn't want to investigate them and race was only a small part of it.

I don't think there's any need to criticise the UK's lack of a death penalty when their crimes are not punishable by death in any country bar perhaps Saudi Arabia. I for one am glad we don't have a death penalty. It's far more expensive than life in prison and the amount of botched executions and possibly innocent people being executed in the US doesn't exactly put it in good standing. It doesn't exactly seem to have stopped anyone killing anyone else in the US, either.

Deportation seems like a good solution on the surface, but only if they're being deported into a prison in their home country. Or else they're just going to do the same thing over there. It's exporting the problem to someone else. I hope the officials in these other countries are aware and keep an eye on these men. Why is nobody concerned that they will do the same thing in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but everyone seems concerned that they'll do it in Sweden, Germany, or will get back into the UK? It's probably easier to do in their home countries, too. The teen girls in Pakistan and Afghanistan matter too.

I agree that they will hopefully be monitored back in those countries, and I doubt they will offend there again anyway, if they have any sense.

 

[Shiressleuth]

They are entering in droves without passports and getting asylum in the EU.

Link?

 

[kirkassoc]

As far as the argument "It is FAR MORE EXPENSIVE to execute someone than to keep them for 50 years in prison" is concerned, I don't believe that for a second! JMO, MOO. I don't agree with that argument, but I respect your right to believe it. The only thing a murderer seems to fear is their own mortality, they have no compassion or empathy, so you have nothing to work with, IMHO.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Life does mean life in many cases. You only hear about the few cases in which parole is finally granted, without seeing the hundreds for which parole will always be denied. Whilst there are problems with the UK's justice system, there are problems with every justice system and there is no need to exaggerate. It doesn't help matters. In this case, the media has been lightning fast to jump on the 'political correctness' train without looking at the facts. The man who forced the authorities to investigate the gang was Nazir Afzal, a muslim. There were many reasons why the police didn't want to investigate them and race was only a small part of it.

I don't think there's any need to criticise the UK's lack of a death penalty when their crimes are not punishable by death in any country bar perhaps Saudi Arabia. I for one am glad we don't have a death penalty. It's far more expensive than life in prison and the amount of botched executions and possibly innocent people being executed in the US doesn't exactly put it in good standing. It doesn't exactly seem to have stopped anyone killing anyone else in the US, either.

Deportation seems like a good solution on the surface, but only if they're being deported into a prison in their home country. Or else they're just going to do the same thing over there. It's exporting the problem to someone else. I hope the officials in these other countries are aware and keep an eye on these men. Why is nobody concerned that they will do the same thing in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but everyone seems concerned that they'll do it in Sweden, Germany, or will get back into the UK? It's probably easier to do in their home countries, too. The teen girls in Pakistan and Afghanistan matter too.

I am very concerned that they will do it in their home countries and they need to be imprisoned. I believe the EU doesn't care about their citizens, and will allow these animals to prey upon the public. So I don't want them seeking sancuary in the EU either.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Link?

You really don't know about the refugee crisis in the EU? Millions of refugees?
EU plans to triple spending on border control
Refugee Crisis in Europe: Aid, Statistics, and Relief Efforts | USA for UNHCR
The EU and the migration crisis
https://nypost.com/2018/06/29/eu-leaders-reach-deal-on-refugee-crisis/

 

[kirkassoc]

If they are stripped of their UK citizenship and deported back to Pakistan and Afghanistan, how could they then legally come back to Germany or Sweden without an EU or UK passport?

From what I understand, it's very cheap and easy to buy a new ID. People do it every day. The best solution would be if they are sent to prisons in their own countries and not allowed back out on the streets. JMO. Obviously, these criminals go to other countries for a reason. What is that reason? One of the reasons could be if they're caught in their country, they're put to death?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

From what I understand, it's very cheap and easy to buy a new ID. People do it every day. The best solution would be if they are sent to prisons in their own countries and not allowed back out on the streets. JMO. Obviously, these criminals go to other countries for a reason. What is that reason? One of the reasons could be if they're caught in their country, they're put to death?

Many times they also respect their culture and they disrespect the culture that has given them asylum. Like the mass molestation in Germany at New Years Eve 2016 that the German gov't and media colluded to conceal.

 

[Trident]

Yemen does it right:
Paedos who raped and killed boy, 10, are shot and hung from cranes in Yemen

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Yemen does it right:
Paedos who raped and killed boy, 10, are shot and hung from cranes in Yemen

Good for Yemen!

 

[jiminy]

They are entering in droves without passports and getting asylum in the EU.

Who are? Convicted sex offenders?

 

[Gardenista]

Who are? Convicted sex offenders?

How would they even know if they are sex offenders?