UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

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Have the Democrats requested an interview with Clinton and Trump? If not, why not? What's the obsession with Andrew?
There are ,in my opinion,some people with an agenda who wish to use Andrew to bring down the whole Royal family.
 
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There are some people with an agenda who wish to use Andrew to bring down the whole Royal family.
Instead of sexual predators? They need to re-examine their priorities.
 
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Have the Democrats requested an interview with Clinton and Trump? If not, why not? What's the obsession with Andrew?

Re. Clintons.....



As for Trump, he has immunity as a sitting President, right?
 
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Again ... where are the demands that Bill Clinton appear and answer questions? Do the Democrats view Andrew as an easy target, while Bill Clinton requires more effort? Why are the Democrats hyper-focused on one man, and not the many others who live in the US?

Why Bill Clinton and not Epstein's BFF for nearly two decades, the POTUS?
BILL Clinton is no longer in power or in the White House, Trump is.
I sincerely don't understand.
 
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Why Bill Clinton and not Epstein's BFF for nearly two decades, the POTUS?
BILL Clinton is no longer in power or in the White House, Trump is.
I sincerely don't understand.
Everyone on the list needs to be called in, no matter their importance. IMO
 
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I found this video to be interesting. It's with Amy Wallace (Virginia's ghostwriter). Amy says that Virginia didn't feel responsible to release a list of names as she gave those names to authorities. Every time she was asked to name names in public, she was revictimized. The authorities are the ones who should be pursuing the investigation to determine who was involved. Of course we know that politics will likely crimp that investigation....particularly in the USA.


And sometimes Virginia didn't know the names of the people who participated in the under-age sex.
There was a run of scientific academics who also were involved. Virginia looked at photos of some academics but couldn't positively identify some of those who she had been made to perform 'services' for.
Apparently Epstein (at least at one point) revered being close to scientific brains, and offered young girls during their times spent with him.

Source: Nobody's Girl by Virginia Roberts Giuffre

I am approaching the halfway mark of the book now. It is very slow reading because the whole lifestyle was so darn sad and disgusting that I can only read it in spurts - the use of many, many young girls by these grown men.

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Everyone on the list needs to be called in, no matter their importance. IMO

I agree that everyone on this list should have to answer questions, but shouldn't it start with those in a position of power?
 
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I agree that everyone on this list should have to answer questions, but shouldn't it start with those in a position of power?
I guess they're all just the same to me.
 
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Again ... where are the demands that Bill Clinton appear and answer questions? Do the Democrats view Andrew as an easy target, while Bill Clinton requires more effort? Why are the Democrats hyper-focused on one man, and not the many others who live in
This is what I recall seeing on it.August/2025

“During her nine hours speaking with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche last month, Ghislaine Maxwell said nothing during the interview that would be harmful to President Donald Trump, telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern, according to sources familiar with what Maxwell said.

The Trump administration, meanwhile, is considering publicly releasing the transcripts from the interview, multiple sources familiar with the internal discussions told ABC News”


 
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Have the Democrats requested an interview with Clinton and Trump? If not, why not? What's the obsession with Andrew?
I'm confused by this as well.
Is it because a specific person has publicly accused Andrew of impropriety and no one has stepped forward to do the same for either Clinton or Trump (and other well-known American figures)?
Have the other victims not stepped forward publicly?

In the end the justice system should be investigating and giving the public confidence that they are doing so in good faith.
 
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I’m no lawyer but I think he can ignore these ‘requests’.

Go after the American ‘friends of JE’, lots of rich and famous amongst your own crowd.
I think it's too dangerous to travel to the US at this time. Facial biometric reading is mandatory, all digital devices and passwords must be given to border officers, and border officers may retain a copy of all digital information. People are detained without cause, put in prison, and deprived of rights.

I don't think anyone should travel to the US anymore. Andrew is at risk because he could find himself in prison paying for everything the Epstein did. The US courts no longer appear to be entirely impartial and law based.

If someone wants to ask Andrew questions, there are many options that do not require him risking travel to the US.

He has until Nov 20 to respond, and he cannot be compelled to testify.
 
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Re. Clintons.....



As for Trump, he has immunity as a sitting President, right?
Isn't the justification for speaking with Andrew and Clinton that the Democrats want information to better understand Epstein? No one needs immunity if that is the honest reason for wanting to ask questions.
 
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I'm confused by this as well.
Is it because a specific person has publicly accused Andrew of impropriety and no one has stepped forward to do the same for either Clinton or Trump (and other well-known American figures)?
Have the other victims not stepped forward publicly?

In the end the justice system should be investigating and giving the public confidence that they are doing so in good faith.
Interviewing the other victims would provide a lot more insight than interviewing Andrew. The other victims also have names of Epstein's friends. I don't understand the obsession with Andrew - other than he's an easy target.
 
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Interviewing the other victims would provide a lot more insight than interviewing Andrew. The other victims also have names of Epstein's friends. I don't understand the obsession with Andrew - other than he's an easy target.
I don't think an 'oversight committee' should be interviewing victims. Those interviews should be done by law enforcement individuals. The question is why hasn't law enforcement acted on any of that.
(I think we know the answer. Powerful people.)

I find it interesting that Andrew is raked over the coals (as he should be), but all of the Americans (and some from other countries) aren't being called out. Hence the call from the public to release the Epstein files.
 
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I agree that everyone on this list should have to answer questions, but shouldn't it start with those in a position of power?

Unfortunately, I think those in positions of power have the power to use that power to remain in the shadows.

It is what it is. Power corrupts and in this case, absolutely corrupts.
 
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I don't think an 'oversight committee' should be interviewing victims. Those interviews should be done by law enforcement individuals. The question is why hasn't law enforcement acted on any of that.
(I think we know the answer. Powerful people.)

I find it interesting that Andrew is raked over the coals (as he should be), but all of the Americans (and some from other countries) aren't being called out. Hence the call from the public to release the Epstein files.
I don't know what the oversight committee is supposed to do, but if they want information about Epstein, then interviewing victims will provide answers. If they want to interview people like Andrew because they want him charged and convicted, then no one should agree to be interviewed.

The Royal Family and UK government have taken strong decisions regarding persons who had an association with Epstein. The US hasn't done anything regarding US citizens with the same circumstance. It has the appearance that the US (oversight committee) wants to double-down; they see that Andrew has been dealt with and they want to have another go at him.

The oversight committee should do their own work, rather than grabbing onto UK decisions and trying to make more of it - as though the UK government and Royal Family need help from the US. Surely the US can find someone in the US to interview or investigate without relying on the UK to do the work for them.
 
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Furthermore, I think the oversight committee is confused about the reasons that Andrew has been stripped of royal status.

I think the committee believes that Andrew was demoted because Giuffre alleges that she was victimized by Andrew during a meeting in NYC. However, that has been known for years. That's nothing new, so it cannot be related to recent decisions.

Other's believe that Andrew was demoted due to new information that Andrew and Sarah publicly announced they would cease contact with Epstein, then privately pursued a friendship with a convicted pedophile. They failed to uphold the values of the monarchy.

If Andrew's most recent mistake is failing to uphold the values of the monarchy, how does that result in the oversight committee believing that he can tell them something about Epstein that they cannot learn from Maxwell, Epstein's many powerful friends, and Epstein's victims?

It's illogical.
 
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Congress cannot compel a non-US citizen living in a foreign country to comply.

I am seriously confused that with all the ongoing serious issues in the US, Giuffre is a top priority for congress.

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Furthermore, I think the oversight committee is confused about the reasons that Andrew has been stripped of royal status.

I think the committee believes that Andrew was demoted because Giuffre alleges that she was victimized by Andrew during a meeting in NYC. However, that has been known for years. That's nothing new, so it cannot be related to recent decisions.

Other's believe that Andrew was demoted due to new information that Andrew and Sarah publicly announced they would cease contact with Epstein, then privately pursued a friendship with a convicted pedophile. They failed to uphold the values of the monarchy.

If Andrew's most recent mistake is failing to uphold the values of the monarchy, how does that result in the oversight committee believing that he can tell them something about Epstein that they cannot learn from Maxwell, Epstein's many powerful friends, and Epstein's victims?

It's illogical.

It just reeks of distraction.
 
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It just reeks of distraction.
Yes. Australian citizen Giuffre and British citizen Andrew met in London 25 years ago. Andrew and Sarah relied on Epstein for money. On that basis, valuable US federal government time has been allocated to interview Andrew.

Meanwhile, there is US government activity related to Christians in Nigeria, reducing global environment protections, legality of global tariffs, the US bombing boats in international water, Russia bombing Ukraine, the random arrest and deportation of people, shutting down the government for several weeks, 12% of the population without food, threats that many more will lose health care, and so much more.

Distraction.
 

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