UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[BetteDavisEyes]

Police look into reports Prince Andrew sought to dig up info on accuser

Virginia Giuffre, who died by suicide in April at the age of 41, had alleged that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein trafficked her to his powerful friends, including Andrew.

www.nbcnews.com

LONDON — Britain’s Metropolitan Police are “actively looking into” reports that Prince Andrew tried to obtain personal information about his accuser Virginia Giuffre, a spokesperson for the force told NBC News on Sunday.

Giuffre, who died by suicide in April at the age of 41, had alleged that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein trafficked her to his powerful friends, including Andrew, against whom she filed a lawsuit in 2021 alleging that he sexually abused her when she was 17.

British newspaper the Mail on Sunday reported that Andrew asked his police protection officer to investigate Giuffre before a photo was published in February 2011, showing Andrew with his arm around Giuffre. The newspaper cited an email reportedly containing a request from Andrew, not seen by NBC News...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

"Small bills"??
What are "big bills" I wonder?
Did she ever work?
I seem to remember she was the author of some books for children.
Or maybe my memory plays tricks.

With such background and education
one can find a nice and interesting career to lead fulfilling life and... pay bills.

JMO

Fergie was a spokesperson for Weight Watchers for a while. I'm sure she was compensated for commercials and speaking engagements, but I don't know how long she remained in the position.

 

[Inthedetails]

Police look into reports Prince Andrew sought to dig up info on accuser

Virginia Giuffre, who died by suicide in April at the age of 41, had alleged that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein trafficked her to his powerful friends, including Andrew.

www.nbcnews.com

LONDON — Britain’s Metropolitan Police are “actively looking into” reports that Prince Andrew tried to obtain personal information about his accuser Virginia Giuffre, a spokesperson for the force told NBC News on Sunday.

Giuffre, who died by suicide in April at the age of 41, had alleged that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein trafficked her to his powerful friends, including Andrew, against whom she filed a lawsuit in 2021 alleging that he sexually abused her when she was 17.

British newspaper the Mail on Sunday reported that Andrew asked his police protection officer to investigate Giuffre before a photo was published in February 2011, showing Andrew with his arm around Giuffre. The newspaper cited an email reportedly containing a request from Andrew, not seen by NBC News...

I'm not recalling how the photo of Andrew and Virginia was provided to the media in the first place. Does anyone know or remember? Was it GM who leaked it?! idk

jmopinion

 

[sds71]

I'm not recalling how the photo of Andrew and Virginia was provided to the media in the first place. Does anyone know or remember? Was it GM who leaked it?! idk

jmopinion

The photograph, in which she poses in front of a post-Impressionist painting at Maxwell's home, was reproduced around the world after it was published by The Mail on Sunday on February 27, 2011.

It was the beginning of a scandal that lasted more than a decade before culminating last week when Andrew agreed to pay her a reported £12 million settlement.

The story of the picture of Andrew with Virginia Giuffre

SHARON CHURCHER: It was the beginning of a scandal that lasted more than a decade before culminating last week when Andrew agreed to pay her a reported £12 million settlement.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

I'm not recalling how the photo of Andrew and Virginia was provided to the media in the first place. Does anyone know or remember? Was it GM who leaked it?! idk

jmopinion

As I remember correctly
the photo was given to FBI agents by Virginia when they contacted her after she left to marry an Australian guy.

Yep.
I found it.
From 2022

Quote:

"During that deposition, Giuffre said she had lent the picture to the FBI in 2011 but had last seen it before she packed up her home to emigrate.
It might, she said, be in her home, in storage at her in-laws’ or with 'seven boxes full of Nerf guns, my kids’ toys, photos'."

How a picture came to symbolize the Prince Andrew sexual abuse case

The image with ‘no innocent explanation’, showing Giuffre with the duke and Ghislaine Maxwell, was taken by Jeffrey Epstein

www.theguardian.com

 

[Inthedetails]

As I remember correctly
the photo was given to FBI agents by Virginia when they contacted her after she left to marry an Australian guy.

Yep.
I found it.
From 2022

Quote:

"During that deposition, Giuffre said she had lent the picture to the FBI in 2011 but had last seen it before she packed up her home to emigrate.
It might, she said, be in her home, in storage at her in-laws’ or with 'seven boxes full of Nerf guns, my kids’ toys, photos'."

How a picture came to symbolize the Prince Andrew sexual abuse case

The image with ‘no innocent explanation’, showing Giuffre with the duke and Ghislaine Maxwell, was taken by Jeffrey Epstein

www.theguardian.com

Thanks. I remember when the photo first appeared in news coverage, but it occurs to me how that happened hasn't been much of a discussion topic (or I have forgotten it).



jmopinion

 

[Luna20]

Thanks. I remember when the photo first appeared in news coverage, but it occurs to me how that happened hasn't been much of a discussion topic (or I have forgotten it).



jmopinion

It may be on the Epstein thread.

 

[tedtink]

So JE said he bankrolled SF for 15 years in a 2011 email.
Back to 1996.
The year she and PA were divorced.

 

[Inthedetails]

So JE said he bankrolled SF for 15 years in a 2011 email.
Back to 1996.
The year she and PA were divorced.

Yes, that's the kind of info I like. Timelines are useful! Thanks for pointing that out.

jmopinion

 

[Legally Bland]

I don't understand.

Age of consent in the UK is 16. So what what would be the basis for a criminal charge?

Rape. Being 16 doesn't mean you automatically consent to sex.

 

[Stunned]

Exactly how long were Epstein and Fergie friends?

 

[Cool Cats]

Exactly how long were Epstein and Fergie friends?

Epstein 'bankrolled Fergie for 15 years'

In the previously unseen emails, Epstein reveals Fergie was so desperate to cosy up to him that 'she was the first to celebrate' his release from jail 'with her two daughters in tow'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

• Fergie begged to borrow $50,000 to $100,000 to help with 'small bills'
• She asked to visit Epstein's private island, joking whether her financial woes made it 'unavailable to bankrupts?'
• Epstein paid off debts the duchess owed a former employee but became angry when she failed to pay him back as promised
• While disavowing Epstein in public, Fergie kept up contact and let him help set up a charity for her
• Epstein brazenly gave Fergie 'talking points' before she was interviewed by Oprah Winfrey.

 

[Cool Cats]

MSN

The real story behind Fergie’s grovelling apology to Jeffrey Epstein​

(The sordid nature of Fergie's relationship with the paedophile and the chummy tone of their correspondence makes sickening reading that will repulse the sex offender's many victims)

In April 2011, Fergie wrote to Epstein to apologise. “I know you feel hellaciously let down by me. And I must humbly apologise to you and your heart for that.

“You have always been a steadfast, generous and supreme friend to me and my family,” she wrote, insisting she had been advised to condemn him publicly to avoid hurting herself and Andrew, and claimed she had never called him a paedophile.

 

[Stunned]

MSN

The real story behind Fergie’s grovelling apology to Jeffrey Epstein​

(The sordid nature of Fergie's relationship with the paedophile and the chummy tone of their correspondence makes sickening reading that will repulse the sex offender's many victims)

In April 2011, Fergie wrote to Epstein to apologise. “I know you feel hellaciously let down by me. And I must humbly apologise to you and your heart for that.

“You have always been a steadfast, generous and supreme friend to me and my family,” she wrote, insisting she had been advised to condemn him publicly to avoid hurting herself and Andrew, and claimed she had never called him a paedophile.

She obviously married the right person. IMO

 

[Cool Cats]

She obviously married the right person. IMO

Divorced the right person ... but made the grave mistake of hanging on to her ex's playboy criminal evil friend.

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[xjd11]

Divorced the right person ... but made the grave mistake of hanging on to her ex's playboy criminal evil friend.

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I'm just catching up on this, I was unaware of Fergie's connection. why did she want to visit Ep's island? was she too interested in having sex with underage kids?

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm just catching up on this, I was unaware of Fergie's connection. why did she want to visit Ep's island? was she too interested in having sex with underage kids?

My guess is she wanted to go to the island because powerful men were there and the scene offered grifting opportunities for her. imo

jmopinion

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm just catching up on this, I was unaware of Fergie's connection. why did she want to visit Ep's island? was she too interested in having sex with underage kids?

No. There is zero evidence that Fergie was involved with underage girls.

Apparently, she was attracted to him due to his wealth and what she herself could gain from him financially. I do not think she cared about his immoral behavior towards young women, I think she was apathetic towards it.

Her behavior in regards to him is reprehensible. She deserves to be dropped by all her charities - I think all of them dropped her.

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[Cool Cats]

My guess is she wanted to go to the island because powerful men were there and the scene offered grifting opportunities for her. imo

jmopinion

Yes ......

$$$$$$$

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