GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #14

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  • #121
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 20m20 minutes ago

Reminder:Shauna Hoare denies all the charges against her, NM denies murder & conspiracy to kidnap,JI/Dd deny assisting an offender
 
  • #122
Prosecution have provided no evidence to prove that SH was involved in Becky's actual death. All their evidence is to do with afterwards. Their best bet of getting a conviction for murder against SH is JE. JE requires A & B to conspire to commit crime X (kidnapping) during which A commits crime Y (murder) therefore, by law, B is also guilty of crime Y (murder) if B could foresee that A might commit crime Y (murder)

Am rushing but I think I've got the A, B X & Y's right
I don't know I think we're reading too much into this joint enterprise malarkey. ..I'm sure it would have been mentioned when charges were bought or in the trial itself

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  • #123
is this a new plot for Alice in Wonderland?

Hahahaha I tell you, you really got to laugh at all this because otherwise we would all be demented. What a LOAD of s**t
 
  • #124
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

AL Looking at what evidence there is that SH helped NM dismember/hide BW body
 
  • #125
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

Pros say SH must have helped him.AL says more likely NM lied to her to keep her out the way
 
  • #126
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

AL Looking at what evidence there is that SH helped NM dismember/hide BW body

DNA on a mask; in the grand scale of things it's not enough is it? I don't know. I can't comprehend her just walking away from this to live her life, is that because I want to believe she is guilty because let's face is the evidence just is not there. :( so frustrating.

I do wonder what the family's take on SH's involvement is, if atall.
 
  • #127
So let me get this straight, NM has sexual fantasy's about all pretty 16ish young women except his Stepsister? Well maybe but I highly doubt it. A consistent 🤬🤬🤬🤬 viewer who has in the past watched rape video's of what I'd call a minor and that doesn't mean anything. Someone who takes his wife who's not in on the deed to kidnap his Stepsister saying she would of stopped him if she knew about it. How about SH who's so clueless as to not see what's going on about her. You can tell by her taped interviews she not stupid, yet she doesn't question any of the BS going on around her. Now as I see it NM went there to remove his Stepsister forcibly from her home, I call that kidnapping even if he went there to scare her while doing it, which I highly doubt was the reason. I'm sure SH knew about it, why would MN take the chance of her finding out and stopping him? Here in the States if SH was in on the kidnapping she'd be complicit in the murder, even if she had nothing to do with the killing. This case really makes me angry that even if it was accidental, did he try CPR, or phone for help. No he show a callus disregard for his Stepsister's life. He went there for his prize and didn't care one way or another what happened to Rebecca. So far all I've heard is a load of horse poop, a lot of empty excuses and other ways to minimize the length of sentence's for their crimes. I apologize for my sarcasm, but it's a lot better than a long string of four letter words.


:goodpost: Indeed!
 
  • #128
Just jumping off the whole conspiracy to kidnap and stun gun thing - police said they knew batteries had been bought on the way to Beckys. There's never been any statements/Cctv relating to who made that purchase

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I think SH said she thougth NM was just going to use the cashpoint when the batteries were bought from tesco.
 
  • #129
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 1m1 minute ago

Looking at DNA evidence


Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

AL:"It's no exaggeration to say NM must have been covered in minuscule specs of DNA attributable to SH
 
  • #130
Do some people seriousy believe that a murder can be committed and cleared up in the time it takes to smoke a cigarette? honestly?

and also believe one of a couple joined at the hip would go to a house to commit a kidnap (not of a sleeping baby but a teenager) without thinking their partner would find out what they were doing?

come on folks. wake up. aaarghhhh!
 
  • #131
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 48s48 seconds ago

AL Says NM fingerprints are everywhere
 
  • #132
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 5m5 minutes ago

"Minuscule bits" of DNA evidence can be found anywhere you live. NM is like to have been "covered in "minuscule specs" of SH DNA
 
  • #133
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 1m1 minute ago

"It would have been pretty surprising if DNA not belonging to SH had appeared on things in the house


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 55s55 seconds ago

Mr Langdon says DNA on the mask could have been NM's - he wore some under his eyes to cover his bags - it was never tested
 
  • #134
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 50s50 seconds ago
Def say if SH knew what NM was doing she wouldn't have shown him the parody 'Do You Want To Hide A Body' #beckywatts
And I say, why would she show it to him that night if she didn't?

Exactly! The "humour" came from the fact that they were in the same situation as the person in the song.
 
  • #135
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

Say very tiny traces of SH.AL"If it was you or your loved one on trial and DNA of this sort was being relied on would you think it was ok?



Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 1m1 minute ago

AL:looking at makeup on mask, says no one has analysed it to see what it matches and NM also wears makeup
 
  • #136
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 1m1 minute ago

Mr Langdon says expert conceded "DNA doesn’t prove SH touched any of the items.
 
  • #137
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

Say very tiny traces of SH.AL"If it was you or your loved one on trial and DNA of this sort was being relied on would you think it was ok?

^^^ pulling on the heartstrings...

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 1m1 minute ago

AL:looking at makeup on mask, says no one has analysed it to see what it matches and NM also wears makeup

^^^^ I can't accept he wears makeup. What a lot of crap, honestly, just NO. SH wears makeup, yes, they are pretty much 1 person though so this logic makes sense.
 
  • #138
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago

AL:says expert agreed the DNA in this case was not proof that SH touched any of the three items
 
  • #139
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 1m1 minute ago

Mr Langdon says expert conceded "DNA doesn’t prove SH touched any of the items.


Yup, and the first thing she said in her interview was you won't find my DNA on anything....I mean what innocent person who hasn't thought all this through says that.

Ok this becoming silly now.
 
  • #140
Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 1m1 minute ago

AL:There are no fingerprint marks belonging to SH on any items found in shed, items of significance from 18 CH or 14 CML
 
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